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  • Is it possible that the Ummah gets removed from Islam so much so that some prophecies

    never materializes?

    Imagine the gulf and everyone else turning into places that isnt so much different than non-muslim countries...Take north africa for example.

    What if every muslims country turn into Turkey during the ataturk reign?

    How do we expect the mercy of Alla to show up or does he just prolongs it for as long as he desires until we change ourselves?
    Stop being apologetic to Kuffars!

    If I don't engage with you or reply to any of your question, it's likely because I find you racist and a total waste of time.

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    Re: Is it possible that the Ummah gets removed from Islam so much so that some prophe

    The only obstacle is the return of Christ.

    Christ is not a person; it is an internal seed planted in and among every single man. It is only accessed if you enter within yourself. As such the world you perceive is strictly relative to you and only you; your body is a lamp and you are the light of the world. Christ is the recognition that the "second coming" can only happen within yourself.

    Your five sense organs; they are all external bound. They only show you what is there by means of comparison to you; thus a duality exists between "creation" or Allah, and what you refer to as your "self". You can't use your five sense organs to know what is "inside" of yourself. The fundamental imbalance of the whole of the cosmos is you. This is enlightenment; but it can only be an internal realization. It is simply a realization of something that has always been true/active but you had not eyes to see. That's why entering within yourself is the only way; nobody comes to the father except through Christ. What you must realize is Christ is an internal process; it is not a man that is going to return, this is the great deception. It actually prolongs the suffering of the world by convincing people Christ is something outside of themselves; desist in such belief, for Christ is within you.

    If you enter within yourself and continue to ask questions and live in accordance to the teachings of Isa, your world will shift accordingly. If you are truthful, you will experience the shift yourself and bear witness directly. This is why such movies as the Matrix were made for audiences who still didn't understand that each individual is their own "Christ" but you can only access it by entering within yourself. That is why Isa said of those who deny "Christ" merely deny themselves, thus deny the Father. Lest any man deny himself (the Christ within) and take up his cross daily (continue to suffer the oppression of the fleshly world) etc.

    The only imbalance is you; each relative to their own experience. This is both the beauty and trap of creation; you either enter Christ, or you do not. There is (literally) no other way. Isa provided many teachings/parables on exactly how to do this, but your authorities tell you things like the Bible has been changed and is no longer reliable in order to keep you away from the truth. As such if you are wondering why the world is the way it is, this is the reason. The mercy of Allah comes when you understand why things are as they are and not what other people blame the problems on (Jews/unbelievers/the West etc.). Do not engage with others; in the eyes of Allah, there is only you, and Allah, and whether or not you engage with your own Christ. Be not afraid; Allah knows the heart of each man and if you are truthful in your search, you can not fail unless you allow others to misguide you. Allah is sufficient unto all things; in Himself to guide you should you take up your own Christ and follow it. To do this is to end the cycle of birth and death because you are eating from the tree of life rather than knowledge of good and evil (your own prejudices). That's why the first story is there; to make you realize there are two trees, one causes death, the other life. Christ is the truth (it is inside you), the way (enter within yourself) and the life (end the cycle of birth and death. As such nobody comes to the father except through Christ.

    Blessings on your journey.

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      Re: Is it possible that the Ummah gets removed from Islam so much so that some prophe

      Originally posted by justoneman View Post
      The only obstacle is the return of Christ.

      Christ is not a person; it is an internal seed planted in and among every single man. It is only accessed if you enter within yourself. As such the world you perceive is strictly relative to you and only you; your body is a lamp and you are the light of the world. Christ is the recognition that the "second coming" can only happen within yourself.

      Your five sense organs; they are all external bound. They only show you what is there by means of comparison to you; thus a duality exists between "creation" or Allah, and what you refer to as your "self". You can't use your five sense organs to know what is "inside" of yourself. The fundamental imbalance of the whole of the cosmos is you. This is enlightenment; but it can only be an internal realization. It is simply a realization of something that has always been true/active but you had not eyes to see. That's why entering within yourself is the only way; nobody comes to the father except through Christ. What you must realize is Christ is an internal process; it is not a man that is going to return, this is the great deception. It actually prolongs the suffering of the world by convincing people Christ is something outside of themselves; desist in such belief, for Christ is within you.

      If you enter within yourself and continue to ask questions and live in accordance to the teachings of Isa, your world will shift accordingly. If you are truthful, you will experience the shift yourself and bear witness directly. This is why such movies as the Matrix were made for audiences who still didn't understand that each individual is their own "Christ" but you can only access it by entering within yourself. That is why Isa said of those who deny "Christ" merely deny themselves, thus deny the Father. Lest any man deny himself (the Christ within) and take up his cross daily (continue to suffer the oppression of the fleshly world) etc.

      The only imbalance is you; each relative to their own experience. This is both the beauty and trap of creation; you either enter Christ, or you do not. There is (literally) no other way. Isa provided many teachings/parables on exactly how to do this, but your authorities tell you things like the Bible has been changed and is no longer reliable in order to keep you away from the truth. As such if you are wondering why the world is the way it is, this is the reason. The mercy of Allah comes when you understand why things are as they are and not what other people blame the problems on (Jews/unbelievers/the West etc.). Do not engage with others; in the eyes of Allah, there is only you, and Allah, and whether or not you engage with your own Christ. Be not afraid; Allah knows the heart of each man and if you are truthful in your search, you can not fail unless you allow others to misguide you. Allah is sufficient unto all things; in Himself to guide you should you take up your own Christ and follow it. To do this is to end the cycle of birth and death because you are eating from the tree of life rather than knowledge of good and evil (your own prejudices). That's why the first story is there; to make you realize there are two trees, one causes death, the other life. Christ is the truth (it is inside you), the way (enter within yourself) and the life (end the cycle of birth and death. As such nobody comes to the father except through Christ.

      Blessings on your journey.
      Load of balloney

      There is no doubt that ESA عليه و سلم is a man, and he's not inside possessing anyone.

      The op isn't talking about false prophecies from the Bible.

      Lastly Proselyting is against forum rules justoneman
      Last edited by Saif-Uddin; 17-09-17, 05:21 AM.
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      "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

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        Re: Is it possible that the Ummah gets removed from Islam so much so that some prophe

        Originally posted by Abdell View Post
        never materializes?

        Imagine the gulf and everyone else turning into places that isnt so much different than non-muslim countries...Take north africa for example.

        What if every muslims country turn into Turkey during the ataturk reign?

        How do we expect the mercy of Alla to show up or does he just prolongs it for as long as he desires until we change ourselves?
        The prophecies will happen as and when Allah عز و جل has decreed them akhi.

        As for the mercy of Allah عز و جل we need to change as an Ummah, otherwise we are in danger of being at the recieving end of his punishments

        Nauzibillah min zaliq

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        "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

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          Re: Is it possible that the Ummah gets removed from Islam so much so that some prophe

          Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
          Load of balloney

          There is no doubt that ESA عليه و سلم is a man, and he's not inside possessing anyone.

          The op isn't talking about false prophecies from the Bible.

          Lastly Proselyting is against forum rules justoneman
          Isa Ibn Maryam is just a man; he declared this. But he is the physical embodiment of "Christ". It is not the man himself which is within, it is the Christ which is within, which is wholly independent from Isa as the man. If one mistakes "Christ" for a man, they are deluded. Christ is a seed placed in and among every mortal that is only accessed if they enter within themselves. As such "Christ" is within and it has absolutely nothing to do with Isa at all. It is as such the return of "Christ" happens within; either you accept your own Christ, or you do not.

          Regarding proselyting, I am not a Christian. I do not belong to any belief. I am not asking anyone to convert to any religion; I have already stated on these forums that Christianity is a false institution. I would hope one does not convert to Christianity.

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