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  • #31
    Re: non-believers will or won't carry believers' sins?

    Originally posted by Josh987654321 View Post
    But when someone murders an innocent person, the innocent person must bear that sin, e.g. death, if someone steals a bike, someone must bear that sin, e.g. the loss of their bike?

    Forgiveness doesn't bring the murdered back to life nor restore the bike in perfect working order.

    I hope this has helped

    Kind Regards
    No, sin is wrongdoing. You didn't do wrong if you are a victim.
    Forgiveness and repentance are means by which sin is expiated. You don't need something brought back to be forgiven or to repent.

    "I hope this has helped"? Are you trying to make a point? Just spell it out if you do, don't beat around the bush.
    Say what somebody can do instead of the haram if you want to help.

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    • #32
      Re: non-believers will or won't carry believers' sins?

      Originally posted by Thunderstorm View Post
      No, sin is wrongdoing. You didn't do wrong if you are a victim.
      Forgiveness and repentance are means by which sin is expiated. You don't need something brought back to be forgiven or to repent.

      "I hope this has helped"? Are you trying to make a point? Just spell it out if you do, don't beat around the bush.
      I agree, however, I meant it in regards to when one says that Christ can't take on our sins by His death on the Cross. As when someone murders an innocent person, that innocent person bears the burden of that sin, because they have suffered death, they have suffered for the sins of another.

      As for "I hope this has helped" my apologies, I came here and I asked you the question, it was just a force of habit, please disregard it.

      Thank you.

      Kind Regards

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      • #33
        Re: non-believers will or won't carry believers' sins?

        It's high time Christians became at least half truthful and admitted their own Bible speaks about Eternal punishment in Hell,
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        "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

        – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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        • #34
          Re: non-believers will or won't carry believers' sins?

          Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
          It's high time Christians became at least half truthful and admitted their own Bible speaks about Eternal punishment in Hell,
          It does, I didn't think they were being untruthful about this?

          Kind Regards,

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          • #35
            Re: non-believers will or won't carry believers' sins?

            Originally posted by myheartspeaks View Post
            We know that the ISIS Muslim who chops off the heads of everything he finds around - so long as he says the shahada - will spend time in Janah after some stint in hell, while the Christian who helped the muslim when ISIS was chopping his head, will spend all his time in hell.
            Hypocrisy must be part of your Religion,

            The Bible clearly states unforgivable sins and eternal punishment, regardless of how many people the person helps,

            One of these days Christians will actually read their own Bible
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            "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

            – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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            • #36
              Re: non-believers will or won't carry believers' sins?

              Originally posted by Josh987654321 View Post
              It does, I didn't think they were being untruthful about this?

              Kind Regards,
              The said person my heart speaks claimed it was wrong for a Christian to be held responsible for Paganism/Shirk because he helped some Muslims, yet his own Bible says There are unforgivable sins and that God punishes with Eternal punishment,

              Guys a clear Troll or a complete hypocrite
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              "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

              – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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              • #37
                Re: non-believers will or won't carry believers' sins?

                Originally posted by myheartspeaks View Post
                We know that the ISIS Muslim who chops off the heads of everything he finds around - so long as he says the shahada - will spend time in Janah after some stint in hell, while the Christian who helped the muslim when ISIS was chopping his head, will spend all his time in hell.
                You are funny character,

                You think Kuffar / Mushrikun who Never worked for the Akhira, Never repented should be forgiven?

                It's like a person who doesn't work demanding he be paid his Salary,

                Absolute insanity
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                "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

                – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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                • #38
                  Re: non-believers will or won't carry believers' sins?

                  Also to remind criminals don't have a right to determine the length of the sentence, that is up to the judge and the owner of all creation, Allah عز و جل

                  So the argument made by non Muslims about Eternal punishment in Jahannam is absurd.
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                  "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

                  – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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                  • #39
                    Re: non-believers will or won't carry believers' sins?

                    I have only asked questions. Why are you attacking me? Why don't you question Jannah Seeker who has disagreed with you? Why are some people always angry?

                    Thanks to all who have bothered to answer without personal attacks.

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                    • #40
                      Re: non-believers will or won't carry believers' sins?

                      Originally posted by myheartspeaks View Post
                      I have only asked questions. Why are you attacking me? Why don't you question Jannah Seeker who has disagreed with you? Why are some people always angry?

                      Thanks to all who have bothered to answer without personal attacks.
                      I was pointing out the absurdity of your argument,

                      If you don't like it, come with a sensible argument next time.

                      If you bothered to read the replies, which question is it that you think hasn't been answered?
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                      "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

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