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  • Re: Sects in Islam

    Originally posted by obaid_m View Post
    [MENTION=138174]Fade[/MENTION] well, even if there were humans before Adam (as) it doesn't matter really.
    Hanz assumed there were humans before Adam, and my reply to him was that even if it wouldnt matter.

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    • Sects in Islam

      [MENTION=138174]Fade[/MENTION] the Quran and the sunnah never spoke of another Humans before Adam. It could another humans, it could be aliens, it could be other intelligent animals, it could be the jinns, it could be anything.
      Quran 45:23-24

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      • Re: Sects in Islam

        If you will read cafefully, Allah says, I am going to placw a vicegerant and angels ask, are you placing him amongst those who shed blood.

        Its obvious. Angels were wondering why he was doing it. To which Allah responds, i know what you know not. That is, humans have the ability to improve far above what angels gave credence to them for.

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        • Re: Sects in Islam

          DEFINITION OF
          KHALIFAH/CALIPH


          Khalifah, Khalaif and Khulafa
          KHALIFAH is an Arabic word literally meaning "one who replaces someone else who left or died" (English: caliph). In the context of Islam, however, the word acquires a narrower meaning. The Muslim Khalifa is the successor (in a line of successors) to Prophet Muhammad's position as the political, military, and administrative leader of the Muslims. The prophetic role of Muhammad is strictly not included in this definition, as the Qur'an and Hadith clearly state that Muhammad was the last of the prophets. Khilafa is a related Arabic word which, in the context of Islam, is used to denote the government of the Muslim state, of which the Khalifa is the head. A workable analogy of Khalifa and Khilafa is president and presidency or king and monarchy. The Khilafa is a fard kifaya on the ummah.
          KHILAFAH (Arabic) - is used to denote the government of the Muslim state, of which the Khalifa is the head. A workable analogy of Khalifah and Khilafah is president and presidency or king and monarchy. The Khilafah is a fard kifaaya on the UMMAH.
          The fisrt mater piece about Khalifah was written by Hassan bin Thabit. He wrote on Khalifah Uthman Ibn Affan; and he use the term "Khalifat Allah ( Vicegerent of Allah)" in 35 AH. Similar to Abu Al-Hasan Al-Mawardi (972-1058) in his book "Al-Ahkam Al-Sulataniya" used the terms,Khalifah of God and Shadow of God, describing the status of Muslim leadership.
          Last edited by hanz; 02-05-16, 04:23 AM.

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          • Sects in Islam

            It doesn't says there were other humans. Who is the first human then? Why didn't Allah tell us about him?
            Quran 45:23-24

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            • Re: Sects in Islam

              That is immaterial. Human beings have been in existence for very long. He has given details of how human beings came into existence, how life came to be on earth, etc.

              The history of Adam is only 7000 years old.

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              • Re: Sects in Islam

                Originally posted by hanz View Post
                That is immaterial. Human beings have been in existence for very long. He has given details of how human beings came into existence, how life came to be on earth, etc.

                The history of Adam is only 7000 years old.
                Nobody can prove the history of Adam is 7000 years.

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                • Re: Sects in Islam

                  Originally posted by Fade View Post
                  Nobody can prove the history of Adam is 7000 years.
                  What is the age in which Adam came, according to you?

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                  • Re: Sects in Islam

                    Originally posted by hanz View Post
                    What is the age in which Adam came, according to you?
                    And what does science say civilization started by humans??
                    ".......He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to thee from Allah increaseth in most of them (kuffar) their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy.Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah doth extinguish it;but they (ever) strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not those who do mischief."(5:64)

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                    • Re: Sects in Islam

                      Originally posted by hanz View Post
                      One should ponder about Allah's command to the angels and how it became applicable to Jinns.

                      That means he was asking all mankind and Jinns to bow in obedience to the prophet raised amongst them and of them someone refused to do so.
                      Iblis says that he was created from fire !

                      ‘I am better than him (Adam), You created me from fire, and him You created from clay.’” [7:12 ]

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