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  • Leaving out Salah ?

    If a person fasts during ramadan but does not pray or give zakat, but says they believe in Allah and the Prophet (SAW) are they still Muslim.
    They say they don't pray because nobody taught them how to and someone else told them if you pray wrong (even whilst learning) you are commiting a huge sin, so they don't try to learn it in case they sin, (whether what that person told them is true or not, they think it's true and won't change that view). They don't give zakat because they love money. And what if said person is your parent, what do you do ?

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    Re: Leaving out Salah ?

    In short,

    If he denies that one or both of these two are obligatory duties, he becomes non-Muslim, (all scholars say that)

    Otherwise, scholars differ:

    If he doesn't perform salat
    Ahmed said: he becomes non-Muslim
    Abu Hanifa, Malik, ash-Shafi'i said: he is still Muslim.

    If he doesn't give zakat:
    Abu bakr said: he becomes non-Muslim
    Umar said: he is still Muslim
    رضي الله عنهم أجمعين

    He is in great danger anyway.

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    • #3
      Re: Leaving out Salah ?

      If you don't pray you're a kaafir.
      You think you know more than my scholar's qiyās? He was more learned than you and all other scholars combined. Yeah, the devil was the greatest scholar too and look where his qiyās of fire being better than tīn got him. Sorry.

      You follow your scholar's qiyās, and I will follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah.

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      • #4
        Re: Leaving out Salah ?

        Both are major sins. If you deny the obligation of performing salah ( thst is the majority viee of the scholars)or zakaat, then that is major kufr and they are no longer Muslims.


        This is why one should learn from scholars and not ignorant lay people, who now misguided this person by telling him mistakes made are major sins.

        If he wasn't taught, then he has excuse of ignorance, but he must make sincerec effort to learn.
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        • #5
          Re: Leaving out Salah ?

          Originally posted by abumohammed View Post
          If a person fasts during ramadan but does not pray or give zakat, but says they believe in Allah and the Prophet (SAW) are they still Muslim.
          They say they don't pray because nobody taught them how to and someone else told them if you pray wrong (even whilst learning) you are commiting a huge sin, so they don't try to learn it in case they sin, (whether what that person told them is true or not, they think it's true and won't change that view). They don't give zakat because they love money. And what if said person is your parent, what do you do ?
          Do your best to explain to them that they must pray and give zakat in a kind and gentle way, and encourage them to do so. Perhaps seek the help of someone that you know they trust to speak to them.

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          • #6
            Re: Leaving out Salah ?

            Not praying is very dangerous .

            Strong evidence against such people in hadeeth and Quran.

            Now , even if we become lenient and say its not kufr , but who knows by neglecting the prayers , we may die as a Kafir ? This is not a light matter at all.

            Show them evidence from authentic sources , after that your duty is over. You cannot force anyone to do anything.

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            • #7
              Re: Leaving out Salah ?

              It is obligation to learn to pray. Even new muslims have to learn. Initially they can stand and simply say bismillah and go through the motions

              The obligation of prayer is never over while a person is alive, it can be done lying down if need be whilst indicating actions. There is no excuse to not do it (except where permitted eg for women)

              The issue with obligations is that to negate any makes you at least sinful and at most kaafir.

              Your job is to let them know and that is it

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              • #8
                Re: Leaving out Salah ?

                he is still muslim if he does those things; he will be great sinner but still muslim; a person only becomes a kaafir if they deny it's obligation

                is he your dad?; he can learn salaah from you. I suppose you know how to pray?; why dont you teach him or at least offer to?; then he'll have no more excuse of 'er I don't know how to' ;)

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