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    During Laylatul Qadr God decides/determines who is going to die in the following year. God has power over life and death. If God destines death, there is no escape. This thinking leads to fatalism - that death is inevitable - a thinking which contributes to the massive death toll on Pakistani roads.

    What is health and safety in front of Allah(S.W.T)? This is the attitude of people of Pakistan in regards to road safety. The people think 'if God has ordained it, so be it, nothing could have been done to avoid it' a case of throwing up your hands in the air. Contrast this with say here in the U.K, every major accident is followed by reports, recommendations and changes, so the chances of the same accident at the same spot happening again are greatly reduced.

    A similar barometer is average life expectancy (or child mortality). In most cases countries which have a higher life expectancy or lower child mortality have worked/progressed towards it. A good health service, safe roads, welfare etc.

    Would it not be fair to say that, generally speaking, rather than God controlling your time of death, it is other factors that play a bigger part? Like where an individual was born/lived. Why has Allah(S.W.T) let life expectancy be dictated by facts on the ground than those in the heavens? Why has He been forced to change the numbers and times of death.

    If one was just/fair and had control of life/death it is probable that geography would play no part in determining death, in other words death would be dispensed with equally around the world, not dependent on the nearest hospital being five minutes away in an ambulance.

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    Re: A Matter of Life and Death

    I think this should be discussed in comparative religion and that section is under purge. So this should be locked. No offense Op
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    • #3
      Re: A Matter of Life and Death

      Originally posted by GoogleSlayer View Post
      I think this should be discussed in comparative religion and that section is under purge. So this should be locked. No offense Op
      No offence taken. Just wondering if indeed this thread was locked, obviously not...

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      • #4
        Re: A Matter of Life and Death

        Originally posted by Unorthodox View Post
        During Laylatul Qadr God decides/determines who is going to die in the following year. God has power over life and death. If God destines death, there is no escape. This thinking leads to fatalism - that death is inevitable - a thinking which contributes to the massive death toll on Pakistani roads.

        What is health and safety in front of Allah(S.W.T)? This is the attitude of people of Pakistan in regards to road safety. The people think 'if God has ordained it, so be it, nothing could have been done to avoid it' a case of throwing up your hands in the air. Contrast this with say here in the U.K, every major accident is followed by reports, recommendations and changes, so the chances of the same accident at the same spot happening again are greatly reduced.

        A similar barometer is average life expectancy (or child mortality). In most cases countries which have a higher life expectancy or lower child mortality have worked/progressed towards it. A good health service, safe roads, welfare etc.

        Would it not be fair to say that, generally speaking, rather than God controlling your time of death, it is other factors that play a bigger part? Like where an individual was born/lived. Why has Allah(S.W.T) let life expectancy be dictated by facts on the ground than those in the heavens? Why has He been forced to change the numbers and times of death.

        If one was just/fair and had control of life/death it is probable that geography would play no part in determining death, in other words death would be dispensed with equally around the world, not dependent on the nearest hospital being five minutes away in an ambulance.
        God also decreed the death days for suicides and they go to Jahannam for it which is also written for them.

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        • #5
          Re: A Matter of Life and Death

          Originally posted by islammission View Post
          God also decreed the death days for suicides and they go to Jahannam for it which is also written for them.
          Can God be that evil?

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          • #6
            Re: A Matter of Life and Death

            Originally posted by Unorthodox View Post
            Can God be that evil?
            Not evil at all. Everything is destined and whoever does evil gets his own blame.

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            • #7
              Re: A Matter of Life and Death

              Originally posted by islammission View Post
              God also decreed the death days for suicides and they go to Jahannam for it which is also written for them.
              The top ten countries in terms of suicide rates

              10.Slovenia
              9.China
              8.Latvia
              7.Japan
              6. Hungary
              5. Belarus
              4. Kazakhstan
              3. Guyana
              2. South Korea
              1. Lithuania

              What has God against Lithuanians and South Koreans etc?

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              • #8
                Re: A Matter of Life and Death

                Originally posted by islammission View Post
                Not evil at all. Everything is destined and whoever does evil gets his own blame.
                sometimes innocent people suffer at the hands of evil doers. Life is not fair. We have no guarantees of safety in this life. It is not really this life that counts. it is the hereafter
                Love God and love others

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                • #9
                  Re: A Matter of Life and Death

                  Originally posted by GoogleSlayer View Post
                  I think this should be discussed in comparative religion and that section is under purge. So this should be locked. No offense Op
                  I don't think that section is open
                  Love God and love others

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