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    I'm throwing this up here to see what you guys think, because I've been meditating on this for months now and I am out of ideas.

    So I figured out Islam, the truth of Allah (SWT). I know about the Yahuud running the world into the trash bin, all the stupid wars, degeneration of society and everything else they are doing.

    I literally don't care about money. Whoever wins the rat race is still a rat. I could literally be poor my entire life and I wouldn't care. I did it for a year straight, literally eating canned gmo crap for a year and I mean it wasn't wonderful or anything but I really didn't care that much. At least back then I wasn't a muslim so I could smoke weed and drink and it helped with the whole being bored senseless thing, that doesn't help me much now though because being intoxicated isn't even remotely appealing to me anymore. Even the idea of watching porn is too much of a hassle for what it's worth, not to mention it grosses me out now.

    Getting in shape so I can impress women and maybe beat the crap outta someone if I have to? I mean yeah that's cool and all but what a pain in the butt that is for essentially nothing.

    A wife? You don't find fulfillment in relationships, the sex would be nice for a while but the fact I have to probably go to college to get a "descent job" so I can run the rat race just for a bit of tail is more effort than I am willing to put into getting the tail in the first place... If I was really that desperate I'd just go to the bar tonight and get some. I have dated my "perfect type" and honestly after a while I dumped her because it was just getting boring. I was expecting meeting the EXACT PERFECT WOMEN would be something to put a spring in my step but after a few months I just ended up getting tired of talking to her on the phone, her "tests", and listening to her whimpering.

    Basically my whole mentality has been "self improvement" as my life goal but for what? Money? Don't care. A wife? It'll get old. Kids? If a wife won't do it... A career? I've never met someone who was happy cuz of their job, and that's such a stupid thing to plan your life around... Oh I wake up smiling every day because I love my job. Yeah maybe if I was in Hamas... Traveling? Meh. I never found sunsets and mountains and stuff "interesting".

    What's the whole point? I do my salah, I figured out the "matrix", I don't care for "earthly pleasures", I am so bored. I've literally thought a million times in the past month "I'm a believer please kill me now". I'm not suicidal at all, I'm just dead bored. I have no inspiration because I have no incentive. It's not a depressed lack of inspiration, it's like a buddhist monk I know these things won't give my life purpose - lack of inspiration. I read somewhere that "a man needs to figure out a story and get lost in writing it", but man they are all have the same ending.
    Last edited by learnedseeker; 29-10-15, 04:54 AM.

  • #2
    Re: Life is so boring

    1) Expectations from people beyond your control need yo be lowered. Lowered much more to the point of expecting higher from yourself instead. It relieves heartache you'll get from your fantasy ideas and gives you a reality check.

    2) Yes, travelling does in includes sunsets and beaches and beautiful landscapes. Why not go out of your country and get in some cultural exchange programme and meet people you're "alien" to. I went to Korea and was hosted by korean family for homestay and it was eye opening learning about their cultures and learning about their Korean war history from visiting such places. For me, food was the biggest highlight and meeting Korean muslims was pretty great as well. So yes, travelling is enlightening, really . It takes the distraction away from you to someone else.

    3) Focus on developing your weaknesses and enjoy the process of it. I bet youve been reading waaaay too much news and all the BS gg on this planet that you're just overwhelmed? Whats up with you joining Hamas? Isnt that a little messed up? IDK but....maybe switch off your internet or read a book?

    4) Find spiritual meaning through your prayers. Recognize the meaning behind each surah you make like Surah iftitah, al Fateha and internalize the meaning while you're praying. It sets you thinking about the Day of Judgement. Prob a line in some surahs will hit you and you'll start contemplating about the stuff youve been up to recently. Just to put you in the right track.

    5) Bake cookies for your neighbours. Betty crocker brand is da best.

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    • #3
      Re: Life is so boring

      Originally posted by learnedseeker View Post
      I'm throwing this up here to see what you guys think, because I've been meditating on this for months now and I am out of ideas.

      So I figured out Islam, the truth of Allah (SWT). I know about the Yahuud running the world into the trash bin, all the stupid wars, degeneration of society and everything else they are doing.

      I literally don't care about money. Whoever wins the rat race is still a rat. I could literally be poor my entire life and I wouldn't care. I did it for a year straight, literally eating canned gmo crap for a year and I mean it wasn't wonderful or anything but I really didn't care that much. At least back then I wasn't a muslim so I could smoke weed and drink and it helped with the whole being bored senseless thing, that doesn't help me much now though because being intoxicated isn't even remotely appealing to me anymore. Even the idea of watching porn is too much of a hassle for what it's worth, not to mention it grosses me out now.

      Getting in shape so I can impress women and maybe beat the crap outta someone if I have to? I mean yeah that's cool and all but what a pain in the butt that is for essentially nothing.

      A wife? You don't find fulfillment in relationships, the sex would be nice for a while but the fact I have to probably go to college to get a "descent job" so I can run the rat race just for a bit of tail is more effort than I am willing to put into getting the tail in the first place... If I was really that desperate I'd just go to the bar tonight and get some. I have dated my "perfect type" and honestly after a while I dumped her because it was just getting boring. I was expecting meeting the EXACT PERFECT WOMEN would be something to put a spring in my step but after a few months I just ended up getting tired of talking to her on the phone, her "tests", and listening to her whimpering.

      Basically my whole mentality has been "self improvement" as my life goal but for what? Money? Don't care. A wife? It'll get old. Kids? If a wife won't do it... A career? I've never met someone who was happy cuz of their job, and that's such a stupid thing to plan your life around... Oh I wake up smiling every day because I love my job. Yeah maybe if I was in Hamas... Traveling? Meh. I never found sunsets and mountains and stuff "interesting".

      What's the whole point? I do my salah, I figured out the "matrix", I don't care for "earthly pleasures", I am so bored. I've literally thought a million times in the past month "I'm a believer please kill me now". I'm not suicidal at all, I'm just dead bored. I have no inspiration because I have no incentive. It's not a depressed lack of inspiration, it's like a buddhist monk I know these things won't give my life purpose - lack of inspiration. I read somewhere that "a man needs to figure out a story and get lost in writing it", but man they are all have the same ending.
      I guess we will never be satisfied in this life. No matter how much we achieve or accomplish, we will be over it and bored. but in paradise we will never be bored :). so I guess we gotta keep on trucking through this boring dunya if we want to get to the fun-filled paradise in the after life.

      "This world is a prison for the believers and a paradise for the disbelievers." Prophet Muhammed (PBUH).
      Indeed we belong to Allah,
      and indeed to Him we will return.


      Quran 2:156

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      • #4
        You're still in remission from weed etc. Take it one step at a time.

        You seem to have ennui - a generalised dissatisfaction with life.

        It could be a test, maybe you have been made into a tabula rasa (read: blank page) ahead of turning a new leaf.

        You know: the purpose of life is to worship God. Keep doing that in your various ways.

        If you're lucky, you will receive love in return. Love is a miracle which gives fulfillment. Nobody can make it appear (much as commercial advertisements would have you believe - that's just mass-produced hokum, material lust for gifts).

        Regardless, you do need to work. Perhaps you think you're The Man right now because you're young. Things go wrong pretty fast after the age of 30. It's scary. Make sure you have money, forget about rat races (although your comment about the winner of the rat race is still a rat, made me smile). You really do need money or some more direct form of sustenance (e.g. making a son or daughter?), otherwise you risk a difficult old age. Do you want to end up in a state-run old people's care home? That could go either way - good or bad, very bad (from what I've been hearing on the news).

        Regarding Hamas - ask yourself if this or that group of person is acting like the Prophet Muhammad:
        - Would the Prophet draw his people into an intractable, merciless war armed with what may as well be sticks and stones?
        - Would the Prophet launch missiles - unguided missiles at that - at Jerusalem, with its holy sites?
        - Would the Prophet send people off to commit suicide?
        - Would the Prophet refuse a truce again and again?
        (Of course it's unjust how the Palestinians are massacred, but is Hamas the solution?) (this isn't a place for politics, friend, I just feel it's imperative to correct you on this detail though)

        I suspect, being in remission from your past addiction to weed etc., you are veering toward a path of new passions - you want big wows, big adventures but you really need something more subtle. You ought to be on a path of love (subtle) that fulfils you without creating winners and losers, not a path of passions (big wows). The path of love begins with humble worship, whether it is requited with love or not. Perhaps the other path, the path of passions, is a hangover from your days of smoking weed. Need brings addictions, addictions create need. Give it time, man.

        On the subject of "Time", maybe meditate on Surah Al 'Asr (translated as: "Time" or "The Forenoon")? I think of the golden afternoon sunlight, how the day begins to die from that point, how fears and hopes come into sharp focus. Then I think of sunset which follows, then the night, how it feels like I'm a ghost, dead, my food is what I amassed during the day. I think of the cross connections between the different parts of Surah 'Asr: Believe <--> Truth / Do good works <--> Patience. May you could keep thinking about that Surah and how every word in it was deliberately placed there in that specific order. I hope it works for you because it seems like you're waiting for something to come down to you, something subtle, barely tangible, to fulfill you, not something anybody can just give you, I think only God can give this.

        [Here is the Pickthall translation of Surah Al 'Asr:
        1. By the declining day,
        2. Lo! man is a state of loss,
        3. Save those who believe and do good works, and exhort one another to truth and exhort one another to endurance*.

        *note: some write "patience" instead of "endurance"]


        [Forget my screen name btw, I want to change it. I don't consider myself agnostic really.]
        Last edited by daniel_agnostic; 29-10-15, 01:45 PM. Reason: Removed some ambiguity and made it less preachy
        Every normal person makes mistakes, therefore too much religious disputation is vain and egotistical - goodbye Ummah.com. Peace be upon you.

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        • #5
          Re: Life is so boring

          Originally posted by learnedseeker View Post
          I'm throwing this up here to see what you guys think, because I've been meditating on this for months now and I am out of ideas.

          So I figured out Islam, the truth of Allah (SWT). I know about the Yahuud running the world into the trash bin, all the stupid wars, degeneration of society and everything else they are doing.

          I literally don't care about money. Whoever wins the rat race is still a rat. I could literally be poor my entire life and I wouldn't care. I did it for a year straight, literally eating canned gmo crap for a year and I mean it wasn't wonderful or anything but I really didn't care that much. At least back then I wasn't a muslim so I could smoke weed and drink and it helped with the whole being bored senseless thing, that doesn't help me much now though because being intoxicated isn't even remotely appealing to me anymore. Even the idea of watching porn is too much of a hassle for what it's worth, not to mention it grosses me out now.

          Getting in shape so I can impress women and maybe beat the crap outta someone if I have to? I mean yeah that's cool and all but what a pain in the butt that is for essentially nothing.

          A wife? You don't find fulfillment in relationships, the sex would be nice for a while but the fact I have to probably go to college to get a "descent job" so I can run the rat race just for a bit of tail is more effort than I am willing to put into getting the tail in the first place... If I was really that desperate I'd just go to the bar tonight and get some. I have dated my "perfect type" and honestly after a while I dumped her because it was just getting boring. I was expecting meeting the EXACT PERFECT WOMEN would be something to put a spring in my step but after a few months I just ended up getting tired of talking to her on the phone, her "tests", and listening to her whimpering.

          Basically my whole mentality has been "self improvement" as my life goal but for what? Money? Don't care. A wife? It'll get old. Kids? If a wife won't do it... A career? I've never met someone who was happy cuz of their job, and that's such a stupid thing to plan your life around... Oh I wake up smiling every day because I love my job. Yeah maybe if I was in Hamas... Traveling? Meh. I never found sunsets and mountains and stuff "interesting".

          What's the whole point? I do my salah, I figured out the "matrix", I don't care for "earthly pleasures", I am so bored. I've literally thought a million times in the past month "I'm a believer please kill me now". I'm not suicidal at all, I'm just dead bored. I have no inspiration because I have no incentive. It's not a depressed lack of inspiration, it's like a buddhist monk I know these things won't give my life purpose - lack of inspiration. I read somewhere that "a man needs to figure out a story and get lost in writing it", but man they are all have the same ending.
          Learnedseeker,

          Asalamalikum. welcome . Hope you had a relaxing break , mate.

          Are you healthy without serious diseases ? Are you perfect without disableness ? Are you ok comfortable without any serious accidents ? Similarly we have a good life in our hands but we never feel its value untill we loose It. Try to find a person and ask who lay paralysed in a major accident in which all were killed except him and is now walking a little bit, he will say he is trying to use every minute of his life and enjoys it .Once we get sick we know how precious time we were enjoying all these days. So use your valuable time wisely in studying pondering Noble Quran and hadith and propagate Islam and doing things to the community you live.

          Remember to pray before you are prayed upon . Help the destitute and orphans before our wealth becomes meagre by spending on useless activities. Do all the good deeds before we leave this earth for good. Feeling Boring is an act of satan who always takes man to extremes in anything like Love , hate , fear etc. So the saying The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence are the consequences of Satan beware and we are supposed to thank Allah for waking up every morning healthy without any sprains, pains so Do dhikr internally where ever you are which is difficult even for me and even talk with Allah directly when you are alone that could also relieve you,be sure he is hearing you.and So Be in contact with us on Ummah so you do not feel bore. Introduce yourselves in the Lounge section where we have usually the Most members discussing even the most silliest things so pick up interesting matters and enter and that can help you to a Limit . Avoiding those knowledge useless for our life is an act of wisdom which is a dua from our Prophet :saw:
          ,

          Last edited by talibilm09; 30-10-15, 04:30 PM.
          My sect - No Sect

          My Aqeedah - http://legacy.quran.com/112 ( The Aqeedah of Sahabas)

          Just a Muslim

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          • #6
            Re: Life is so boring

            Same here man, I feel the same way as you do.
            Quran 45:23-24

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            • #7
              Re: You're still in remission from weed etc. Take it one step at a time.

              Originally posted by daniel_agnostic View Post
              You seem to have ennui - a generalised dissatisfaction with life.

              It could be a test, maybe you have been made into a tabula rasa (read: blank page) ahead of turning a new leaf.

              You know: the purpose of life is to worship God. Keep doing that in your various ways.

              If you're lucky, you will receive love in return. Love is a miracle which gives fulfillment. Nobody can make it appear (much as commercial advertisements would have you believe - that's just mass-produced hokum, material lust for gifts).

              Regardless, you do need to work. Perhaps you think you're The Man right now because you're young. Things go wrong pretty fast after the age of 30. It's scary. Make sure you have money, forget about rat races (although your comment about the winner of the rat race is still a rat, made me smile). You really do need money or some more direct form of sustenance (e.g. making a son or daughter?), otherwise you risk a difficult old age. Do you want to end up in a state-run old people's care home? That could go either way - good or bad, very bad (from what I've been hearing on the news).

              Regarding Hamas - ask yourself if this or that group of person is acting like the Prophet Muhammad:
              - Would the Prophet draw his people into an intractable, merciless war armed with what may as well be sticks and stones?
              - Would the Prophet launch missiles - unguided missiles at that - at Jerusalem, with its holy sites?
              - Would the Prophet send people off to commit suicide?
              - Would the Prophet refuse a truce again and again?
              (Of course it's unjust how the Palestinians are massacred, but is Hamas the solution?) (this isn't a place for politics, friend, I just feel it's imperative to correct you on this detail though)

              I suspect, being in remission from your past addiction to weed etc., you are veering toward a path of new passions - you want big wows, big adventures but you really need something more subtle. You ought to be on a path of love (subtle) that fulfils you without creating winners and losers, not a path of passions (big wows). The path of love begins with humble worship, whether it is requited with love or not. Perhaps the other path, the path of passions, is a hangover from your days of smoking weed. Need brings addictions, addictions create need. Give it time, man.

              On the subject of "Time", maybe meditate on Surah Al 'Asr (translated as: "Time" or "The Forenoon")? I think of the golden afternoon sunlight, how the day begins to die from that point, how fears and hopes come into sharp focus. Then I think of sunset which follows, then the night, how it feels like I'm a ghost, dead, my food is what I amassed during the day. I think of the cross connections between the different parts of Surah 'Asr: Believe <--> Truth / Do good works <--> Patience. May you could keep thinking about that Surah and how every word in it was deliberately placed there in that specific order. I hope it works for you because it seems like you're waiting for something to come down to you, something subtle, barely tangible, to fulfill you, not something anybody can just give you, I think only God can give this.

              [Here is the Pickthall translation of Surah Al 'Asr:
              1. By the declining day,
              2. Lo! man is a state of loss,
              3. Save those who believe and do good works, and exhort one another to truth and exhort one another to endurance*.

              *note: some write "patience" instead of "endurance"]


              [Forget my screen name btw, I want to change it. I don't consider myself agnostic really.]
              is this what i think it is :)

              i feel like trying the Surah Al Asr thing you mentioned Alhamdulillah
              Be careful who you call Kafir because only Allah knows who is truly a rejector and who is merely a misguided person. It is not up to us to "sentence" a person to the Hellfire.

              The Questions you Questioned will be Questioned in the day of judgement

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              • #8
                Re: Life is so boring

                Originally posted by learnedseeker View Post
                I'm throwing this up here to see what you guys think, because I've been meditating on this for months now and I am out of ideas.

                So I figured out Islam, the truth of Allah (SWT). I know about the Yahuud running the world into the trash bin, all the stupid wars, degeneration of society and everything else they are doing.
                Assalamu Aleikum brother, Allah sure has guided you and only Allah can guide. Lets put all the wars and politics in to the trash for a moment and concentrate on our own life and afterlife

                I literally don't care about money. Whoever wins the rat race is still a rat. I could literally be poor my entire life and I wouldn't care. I did it for a year straight, literally eating canned gmo crap for a year and I mean it wasn't wonderful or anything but I really didn't care that much. At least back then I wasn't a muslim so I could smoke weed and drink and it helped with the whole being bored senseless thing, that doesn't help me much now though because being intoxicated isn't even remotely appealing to me anymore. Even the idea of watching porn is too much of a hassle for what it's worth, not to mention it grosses me out now.
                I have been a weed and alcohol addict myself in the past and may be you know the Salah gives a better high and hope than any of those, The THC or Alcohol will only ''hide'' issues and take us far far away from reality, by the time we wake up and our blood gets clean it would seem like the train has been missed. Instead its better to take the pain, keep eyes open, stay conscious with clean blood free from alcohol and drugs and patiently wait for the next train.

                In some way, suffering ceases to be suffering at the moment it finds a meaning . We know that life is a temporary test, we know that every suffering even the tiny bite of a mosquito will be rewarded in the afterlife if we dealt it with patience and constant prayers.

                Getting in shape so I can impress women and maybe beat the crap outta someone if I have to? I mean yeah that's cool and all but what a pain in the butt that is for essentially nothing.

                A wife? You don't find fulfillment in relationships, the sex would be nice for a while but the fact I have to probably go to college to get a "descent job" so I can run the rat race just for a bit of tail is more effort than I am willing to put into getting the tail in the first place... If I was really that desperate I'd just go to the bar tonight and get some. I have dated my "perfect type" and honestly after a while I dumped her because it was just getting boring. I was expecting meeting the EXACT PERFECT WOMEN would be something to put a spring in my step but after a few months I just ended up getting tired of talking to her on the phone, her "tests", and listening to her whimpering.

                Basically my whole mentality has been "self improvement" as my life goal but for what? Money? Don't care. A wife? It'll get old. Kids? If a wife won't do it... A career? I've never met someone who was happy cuz of their job, and that's such a stupid thing to plan your life around... Oh I wake up smiling every day because I love my job. Yeah maybe if I was in Hamas... Traveling? Meh. I never found sunsets and mountains and stuff "interesting".

                What's the whole point? I do my salah, I figured out the "matrix", I don't care for "earthly pleasures", I am so bored. I've literally thought a million times in the past month "I'm a believer please kill me now". I'm not suicidal at all, I'm just dead bored. I have no inspiration because I have no incentive. It's not a depressed lack of inspiration, it's like a buddhist monk I know these things won't give my life purpose - lack of inspiration. I read somewhere that "a man needs to figure out a story and get lost in writing it", but man they are all have the same ending.
                Materialistic goals are important in order for us to survive, Spiritual goals are important in order for us to find meaning to life. A life with only materialistic goals might take you to the top of the mountain, but once you reach to the top of the mountain you will realize life is meaningless even at the top. A life with only spiritual goals might take you to the top of the mountain but once you reach to the top of the mountain you will realize that its only your mind that made the journey but your vessel/body is far far down the slope calling for your support.

                a good life is a balance between materialistic goals and spiritual goals, they both should compliment each other so that when one goes down the other will fill the gap.
                Last edited by Hate Racism; 29-10-15, 06:17 PM.
                Be careful who you call Kafir because only Allah knows who is truly a rejector and who is merely a misguided person. It is not up to us to "sentence" a person to the Hellfire.

                The Questions you Questioned will be Questioned in the day of judgement

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                • #9
                  Re: Life is so boring

                  Originally posted by learnedseeker View Post
                  I'm throwing this up here to see what you guys think, because I've been meditating on this for months now and I am out of ideas.

                  So I figured out Islam, the truth of Allah (SWT). I know about the Yahuud running the world into the trash bin, all the stupid wars, degeneration of society and everything else they are doing.

                  I literally don't care about money. Whoever wins the rat race is still a rat. I could literally be poor my entire life and I wouldn't care. I did it for a year straight, literally eating canned gmo crap for a year and I mean it wasn't wonderful or anything but I really didn't care that much. At least back then I wasn't a muslim so I could smoke weed and drink and it helped with the whole being bored senseless thing, that doesn't help me much now though because being intoxicated isn't even remotely appealing to me anymore. Even the idea of watching porn is too much of a hassle for what it's worth, not to mention it grosses me out now.

                  Getting in shape so I can impress women and maybe beat the crap outta someone if I have to? I mean yeah that's cool and all but what a pain in the butt that is for essentially nothing.

                  A wife? You don't find fulfillment in relationships, the sex would be nice for a while but the fact I have to probably go to college to get a "descent job" so I can run the rat race just for a bit of tail is more effort than I am willing to put into getting the tail in the first place... If I was really that desperate I'd just go to the bar tonight and get some. I have dated my "perfect type" and honestly after a while I dumped her because it was just getting boring. I was expecting meeting the EXACT PERFECT WOMEN would be something to put a spring in my step but after a few months I just ended up getting tired of talking to her on the phone, her "tests", and listening to her whimpering.

                  Basically my whole mentality has been "self improvement" as my life goal but for what? Money? Don't care. A wife? It'll get old. Kids? If a wife won't do it... A career? I've never met someone who was happy cuz of their job, and that's such a stupid thing to plan your life around... Oh I wake up smiling every day because I love my job. Yeah maybe if I was in Hamas... Traveling? Meh. I never found sunsets and mountains and stuff "interesting".

                  What's the whole point? I do my salah, I figured out the "matrix", I don't care for "earthly pleasures", I am so bored. I've literally thought a million times in the past month "I'm a believer please kill me now". I'm not suicidal at all, I'm just dead bored. I have no inspiration because I have no incentive. It's not a depressed lack of inspiration, it's like a buddhist monk I know these things won't give my life purpose - lack of inspiration. I read somewhere that "a man needs to figure out a story and get lost in writing it", but man they are all have the same ending.
                  Life is what you make it. You clearly have zero ambition to make anything of your life so you've become content with what you have, which doesn't sound like much. If you're truly happy with the little enjoyment you have then by all means carry on that way, although you're on Earth, you're probably going to be here for a fair old while, why not get out there and do something with your life?

                  Your loss my friend.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Life is so boring

                    Originally posted by Hate Racism View Post
                    In some way, suffering ceases to be suffering at the moment it finds a meaning .
                    I've recently read or heard exactly the same thing elsewhere, was it something you wrote on another thread? Or is it just a massive coincidence and I read it somewhere totally unrelated to this site?


                    Originally posted by Hate Racism View Post
                    Materialistic goals are important in order for us to survive, Spiritual goals are important in order for us to find meaning to life. A life with only materialistic goals might take you to the top of the mountain, but once you reach to the top of the mountain you will realize life is meaningless even at the top. A life with only spiritual goals might take you to the top of the mountain but once you reach to the top of the mountain you will realize that its only your mind that made the journey but your vessel/body is far far down the slope calling for your support.

                    a good life is a balance between materialistic goals and spiritual goals, they both should compliment each other so that when one goes down the other will fill the gap.
                    Good stuff. Thought-provoking.

                    I feel bad about telling a guy he needs to earn money. I think fulfillment of the soul takes priority, but I can't expect the guy to meditate all day in a cave or be given manna from heaven. Sure it's possible, but a miracle can't be forced. Ppl have got to "tie their camels" as the saying goes - i.e. take precautions, take practical steps in life. So yeah I agree with what you're saying, he's got to care for both his body and his soul.

                    I've been in similar situations to you and him so I firmly believe this is artefacts from psychological addiction to substances / drink. When it stops, you're just left with anhedonia, ennui, depleted, shields down. Gotta be careful - that's when you're most prone to being hoodwinked by the darkside in its many and varied forms.
                    Every normal person makes mistakes, therefore too much religious disputation is vain and egotistical - goodbye Ummah.com. Peace be upon you.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Life is so boring

                      Originally posted by CuriousKafir View Post
                      Life is what you make it. ... Your loss my friend.
                      Ah come on dude, we've all been there. Show him how you dealt with it. My practical solution: perhaps create a business project, something smalltime, expect to lose your investment, but at least it's an electrifying experience.
                      Every normal person makes mistakes, therefore too much religious disputation is vain and egotistical - goodbye Ummah.com. Peace be upon you.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Life is so boring

                        Originally posted by daniel_agnostic View Post
                        I've recently read or heard exactly the same thing elsewhere, was it something you wrote on another thread? Or is it just a massive coincidence and I read it somewhere totally unrelated to this site?




                        Good stuff. Thought-provoking.

                        I feel bad about telling a guy he needs to earn money. I think fulfillment of the soul takes priority, but I can't expect the guy to meditate all day in a cave or be given manna from heaven. Sure it's possible, but a miracle can't be forced. Ppl have got to "tie their camels" as the saying goes - i.e. take precautions, take practical steps in life. So yeah I agree with what you're saying, he's got to care for both his body and his soul.

                        I've been in similar situations to you and him so I firmly believe this is artefacts from psychological addiction to substances / drink. When it stops, you're just left with anhedonia, ennui, depleted, shields down. Gotta be careful - that's when you're most prone to being hoodwinked by the darkside in its many and varied forms.
                        yes the suffering message is something i shared few times before :) Victor Franks book ‘’Mans search for meaning'' actually explains this really well

                        sometimes people ask what does religion offer, well after all the most important thing it offers is ''meaning'' to life in my opinion.

                        One day a person asked the prophet should i leave the camel out and just pray to Allah to keep it safe until i wake next morning, prophet said tie the camel first and then pray to Allah to protect it :)

                        so indeed the Buddhas path of leaving all family and going to jungle is not the solution to life, i love the fact that Islam gives a balance between materialistic goals and spiritual goals. People should not get caught up in one path though.
                        Be careful who you call Kafir because only Allah knows who is truly a rejector and who is merely a misguided person. It is not up to us to "sentence" a person to the Hellfire.

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                          Re: Life is so boring

                          Originally posted by daniel_agnostic View Post
                          I've recently read or heard exactly the same thing elsewhere, was it something you wrote on another thread? Or is it just a massive coincidence and I read it somewhere totally unrelated to this site?




                          Good stuff. Thought-provoking.

                          I feel bad about telling a guy he needs to earn money. I think fulfillment of the soul takes priority, but I can't expect the guy to meditate all day in a cave or be given manna from heaven. Sure it's possible, but a miracle can't be forced. Ppl have got to "tie their camels" as the saying goes - i.e. take precautions, take practical steps in life. So yeah I agree with what you're saying, he's got to care for both his body and his soul.

                          I've been in similar situations to you and him so I firmly believe this is artefacts from psychological addiction to substances / drink. When it stops, you're just left with anhedonia, ennui, depleted, shields down. Gotta be careful - that's when you're most prone to being hoodwinked by the darkside in its many and varied forms.
                          this story for some reason just has touched my heart

                          ‘’Once, an elderly general practitioner consulted me because of his severe depression. He could not overcome the loss of his wife who had died two years before and whom he had loved above all else. Now, how could I help him? What should I tell him? Well, I refrained from telling him anything but instead confronted him with the question, "What would have happened, Doctor, if you had died first, and your wife would have had to survive you?" "Oh," he said, "for her this would have been terrible; how she would have suffered!" Whereupon I replied, "You see, Doctor, such a suffering has been spared her, and it was you who have spared her this suffering—to be sure, at the price that now you have to survive and mourn her." He said no word but shook my hand and calmly left my office. In some way, suffering ceases to be suffering at the moment it finds a meaning ‘’

                          its from that book i mentioned above
                          Be careful who you call Kafir because only Allah knows who is truly a rejector and who is merely a misguided person. It is not up to us to "sentence" a person to the Hellfire.

                          The Questions you Questioned will be Questioned in the day of judgement

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                          • #14
                            Re: Life is so boring

                            Originally posted by Hate Racism View Post
                            ‘’Once, an elderly general practitioner consulted me because of his severe depression. He could not overcome the loss of his wife who had died two years before and whom he had loved above all else. Now, how could I help him? What should I tell him? Well, I refrained from telling him anything but instead confronted him with the question, "What would have happened, Doctor, if you had died first, and your wife would have had to survive you?" "Oh," he said, "for her this would have been terrible; how she would have suffered!" Whereupon I replied, "You see, Doctor, such a suffering has been spared her, and it was you who have spared her this suffering—to be sure, at the price that now you have to survive and mourn her." He said no word but shook my hand and calmly left my office. In some way, suffering ceases to be suffering at the moment it finds a meaning ‘’
                            Yep it was from that post that I first read it, now that you mention it.
                            Every normal person makes mistakes, therefore too much religious disputation is vain and egotistical - goodbye Ummah.com. Peace be upon you.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Life is so boring

                              Originally posted by daniel_agnostic View Post
                              Ah come on dude, we've all been there. Show him how you dealt with it. My practical solution: perhaps create a business project, something smalltime, expect to lose your investment, but at least it's an electrifying experience.
                              My guess is the OP has grown up lazy and therefore is naturally a lazy person. Probably has a boring menial job so job satisfaction is gunna be hard.

                              He says he himself, he just has no incentive to do anything but not because of a lack of interest... no... because he is lazy.
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