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    If someone going through some terminal illness and they are muslim but one day the pain get too much for them..they become angry at Allah and start saying wrong things...if they die does that mean they died a kafir..this is person who prays and loves Allah...has good understanding of religion but the pain get overbearing that thye say wrong things...they are concerned that they might die in a state of kufr..when they say these things...they still believe in Allah they just angry at him during that time...is this a type of shirk..? :jkk:
    Women lost their modesty when men lost their gheerah..” .

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    Re: is this considered shirk..?

    Originally posted by shay5 View Post
    If someone going through some terminal illness and they are muslim but one day the pain get too much for them..they become angry at Allah and start saying wrong things...if they die does that mean they died a kafir..this is person who prays and loves Allah...has good understanding of religion but the pain get overbearing that thye say wrong things...they are concerned that they might die in a state of kufr..when they say these things...they still believe in Allah they just angry at him during that time...is this a type of shirk..? :jkk:
    Allah is the most merciful. Forget this and pray for them. God is the justest and the most knowledgeable. When we believe this we do not complain. Moreover hard situations cleanse our sins.
    Shirk is in the hidden parts of our heart. No one can claim he is completely free of Shirk.
    Note: I am a shia.

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    • #3
      Re: is this considered shirk..?

      Originally posted by ALAS View Post
      Allah is the most merciful. Forget this and pray for them. God is the justest and the most knowledgeable. When we believe this we do not complain. Moreover hard situations cleanse our sins.
      Shirk is in the hidden parts of our heart. No one can claim he is completely free of Shirk.
      I heard there were many types of shirk and wondered if this was one..
      Women lost their modesty when men lost their gheerah..” .

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      • #4
        Re: is this considered shirk..?

        Originally posted by shay5 View Post
        I heard there were many types of shirk and wondered if this was one..
        It sometimes does happen , happened with me also . Also , a few people I know personally. They all repented from this.

        Allah ( swt ) mercy cannot be estimated , just repent about what happened.

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        • #5
          Re: is this considered shirk..?

          Originally posted by shay5 View Post
          If someone going through some terminal illness and they are muslim but one day the pain get too much for them..they become angry at Allah and start saying wrong things...if they die does that mean they died a kafir..this is person who prays and loves Allah...has good understanding of religion but the pain get overbearing that thye say wrong things...they are concerned that they might die in a state of kufr..when they say these things...they still believe in Allah they just angry at him during that time...is this a type of shirk..? :jkk:
          Shirk is Associating Partner with Allah.

          Become Angry at Allah is still Believing in HIM - BUT with EVIL ASSUMPTION.

          Following Assumption is ASTRAY.

          Astray is one Group with Shirk, but Not Shirk.

          Ask him to READ DUA fro this verse :

          Al-Baqara : 286

          لَا يُكَلِّفُ اللَّهُ نَفْسًا إِلَّا وُسْعَهَا ۚ لَهَا مَا كَسَبَتْ وَعَلَيْهَا مَا اكْتَسَبَتْ ۗ رَبَّنَا لَا تُؤَاخِذْنَآ إِن نَّسِينَآ أَوْ أَخْطَأْنَا ۚ رَبَّنَا وَلَا تَحْمِلْ عَلَيْنَآ إِصْرًا كَمَا حَمَلْتَهُۥ عَلَى الَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِنَا ۚ رَبَّنَا وَلَا تُحَمِّلْنَا مَا لَا طَاقَةَ لَنَا بِهِۦ ۖ وَاعْفُ عَنَّا وَاغْفِرْ لَنَا وَارْحَمْنَآ ۚ أَنتَ مَوْلٰىنَا فَانصُرْنَا عَلَى الْقَوْمِ الْكٰفِرِينَ

          Allah does not charge a soul except [with that within] its capacity. It will have [the consequence of] what [good] it has gained, and it will bear [the consequence of] what [evil] it has earned. "Our Lord, do not impose blame upon us if we have forgotten or erred. Our Lord, and lay not upon us a burden like that which You laid upon those before us. Our Lord, and burden us not with that which we have no ability to bear. And pardon us; and forgive us; and have mercy upon us. You are our protector, so give us victory over the disbelieving people."

          And ask him to understand this :


          Al-Ahzaab : 10

          إِذْ جَآءُوكُم مِّن فَوْقِكُمْ وَمِنْ أَسْفَلَ مِنكُمْ وَإِذْ زَاغَتِ الْأَبْصٰرُ وَبَلَغَتِ الْقُلُوبُ الْحَنَاجِرَ وَتَظُنُّونَ بِاللَّهِ الظُّنُونَا۠

          [Remember] when they came at you from above you and from below you, and when eyes shifted [in fear], and hearts reached the throats and you assumed about Allah [various] assumptions.

          Al-Ahzaab : 11

          هُنَالِكَ ابْتُلِىَ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ وَزُلْزِلُوا زِلْزَالًا شَدِيدًا

          There the believers were tested and shaken with a severe shaking.

          Al-Baqara : 155

          وَلَنَبْلُوَنَّكُم بِشَىْءٍ مِّنَ الْخَوْفِ وَالْجُوعِ وَنَقْصٍ مِّنَ الْأَمْوٰلِ وَالْأَنفُسِ وَالثَّمَرٰتِ ۗ وَبَشِّرِ الصّٰبِرِينَ

          And We will surely test you with something of fear and hunger and a loss of wealth and lives and fruits, but give good tidings to the patient,

          Al-Baqara : 156

          الَّذِينَ إِذَآ أَصٰبَتْهُم مُّصِيبَةٌ قَالُوٓا إِنَّا لِلَّهِ وَإِنَّآ إِلَيْهِ رٰجِعُونَ

          Who, when disaster strikes them, say, "Indeed we belong to Allah, and indeed to Him we will return."

          Al-Baqara : 157

          أُولٰٓئِكَ عَلَيْهِمْ صَلَوٰتٌ مِّن رَّبِّهِمْ وَرَحْمَةٌ ۖ وَأُولٰٓئِكَ هُمُ الْمُهْتَدُونَ

          Those are the ones upon whom are blessings from their Lord and mercy. And it is those who are the [rightly] guided.
          Exalted Allah The Mighty.

          May Allah give HIS RAHMAT to us all.

          http://bestoflights.blogspot.com

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          • #6
            Re: is this considered shirk..?

            did they say it aloud or was it a motion they had in themselves. if some1 can clarify, we are not punished for our thoughts as long as we don't act or speak of them, though i would like to know what 'acting' on it means. like can a belief, in your heart, be counted as acting upon it.
            Abu Malik at-Ash'ari reported:

            The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Cleanliness is half of faith

            and al-Hamdu Lillah (all praise and gratitude is for Allah alone) fills the scale, and Subhan Allah (Glory be to Allah)

            and al-Hamdu Lillah fill up what is between the heavens and the earth, and prayer is a light,

            and charity is proof (of one's faith)

            and endurance is a brightness and the Holy Qur'an is a proof on your behalf or against you.

            All men go out early in the morning and sell themselves, thereby setting themselves free or destroying themselves.



            حَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ مَنْصُورٍ، حَدَّثَنَا حَبَّانُ بْنُ هِلاَلٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبَانٌ، حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى، أَنَّ زَيْدًا، حَدَّثَهُ أَنَّ أَبَا سَلاَّمٍ حَدَّثَهُ عَنْ أَبِي مَالِكٍ الأَشْعَرِيِّ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ الطُّهُورُ شَطْرُ الإِيمَانِ وَالْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ تَمْلأُ الْمِيزَانَ ‏.‏ وَسُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ وَالْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ تَمْلآنِ - أَوْ تَمْلأُ - مَا بَيْنَ السَّمَوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ وَالصَّلاَةُ نُورٌ وَالصَّدَقَةُ بُرْهَانٌ وَالصَّبْرُ ضِيَاءٌ وَالْقُرْآنُ حُجَّةٌ لَكَ أَوْ عَلَيْكَ كُلُّ النَّاسِ يَغْدُو فَبَائِعٌ نَفْسَهُ فَمُعْتِقُهَا أَوْ مُوبِقُهَا ‏"‏ ‏.‏

            Reference : Sahih Muslim 223
            In-book reference : Book 2, Hadith 1
            USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 2, Hadith 432
            (deprecated numbering scheme)

            أَلَمْ تَرَوْا أَنَّ اللَّهَ سَخَّرَ لَكُم مَّا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَأَسْبَغَ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعَمَهُ ظَاهِرَةً وَبَاطِنَةً ۗ وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَلَا هُدًى وَلَا كِتَابٍ مُّنِيرٍ - 31:20

            Do you not see that Allah has made subject to you whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth and amply bestowed upon you His favors, [both] apparent and unapparent? But of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening Book [from Him].


            Please take a look at my blog : http://thinkingmuslima.blogspot.co.uk/

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            • #7
              Re: is this considered shirk..?

              Salaam sister.

              Im not sure exactly but I think its not shirk to get angry because of the situation the patient is in. It would be shirk if the patient asked someone else for shifa and believed that person could help like asking or praying to pious people for help. That would be shirk.

              I think it also depends on what has been said exactly. May Allah swt grant this person health and happiness. Ameen.

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              • #8
                Re: is this considered shirk..?

                Originally posted by shay5 View Post
                If someone going through some terminal illness and they are muslim but one day the pain get too much for them..they become angry at Allah and start saying wrong things...if they die does that mean they died a kafir..this is person who prays and loves Allah...has good understanding of religion but the pain get overbearing that thye say wrong things...they are concerned that they might die in a state of kufr..when they say these things...they still believe in Allah they just angry at him during that time...is this a type of shirk..? :jkk:
                As Salaam Ulaikum Wr Wb,

                Anger is haram in Islam and one of the reasons is very clear, we are no longer in control of our-self. If one has said things which should not be uttered - than its best to repent and ask for forgiveness from Allah. When one is in pain he OR she should recite وَإِن يَمۡسَسۡكَ ٱللَّهُ بِضُرٍّ۬ فَلَا ڪَاشِفَ لَهُ ۥۤ إِلَّا هُوَ*ۖ وَإِن يَمۡسَسۡكَ بِخَيۡرٍ۬ فَهُوَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ۬ قَدِيرٌ۬

                If Allah causes you harm, there is no one to remove it except He Himself; and if He causes you good, then He is powerful over everything. [The Holy Quran - Surah 6: Verse 17]

                It is sad that at times we are not properly taught about Islamic values and manners which leads us to extreme mistakes. For example when a wolf is angry, it does not think and similarly when a man gets angry as a result of pain or provocation, he has a choice to control his anger or to respond to it as he has been taught by the teachings of Prophet or forget all that and become a wild animal. Thus anger takes place when we are not in control of ourselves, but the devil is controlling us.

                In anger we should recite A'uzu billahi min ash shaitani r rajimi Bismi 'llahi 'r-rahmani 'r-rahim

                May Allah ease your pain, give you sabr and bless you with Shifa. Ameen
                "The only one who will not break ur heart is the one who made it"

                FriEND..BestfriEND..GirlfriEND..BoyfriEND..Everyth ing comes to an END... Except Allah ﷻ strengthen your love for the One who created your heart.

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                • #9
                  Re: is this considered shirk..?

                  This video will inshaALLAH help you! it so perfectly explains what shirk is, citing from the Quran and Sunnah, with examples!
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                  • #10
                    Re: is this considered shirk..?

                    Allah takes into account any extenuating circumstances on a person; given that yet no one wants to say bad or abusing things towards Allah or anything which implies a person thinks what Allah has willed is wrong ... so basically we just don't know whether it will be shirk or not; ALlah could over look it for the immense pain he was going through; then again this could have been a test to bring out the real him; patient and obedient and accepting of Allah's will or is hew going to crack and give in to satan?; all we can do is pray for him and assume he died a muslim!

                    committing suicide under intense pain leads to hell we know that; but loosing it and being angry towards Allah might just keep one within the folds!

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