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  • The Muslim Allah and the Christian God

    This question is to Muslims only, so please do not respond if you're not Muslim.

    Since Christians believe that Allah is three beings in one (Astaghfirallah) then would it be correct to say that we do not worship the same Lord, or is it more correct that they are just worshiping Him incorrectly?

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    Re: The Muslim Allah and the Christian God

    Well Christians believe in the same God as that of Abraham, right?. We do that too.
    So I guess we are worshipping 1/3 of the Lord according to the trinity thingie. So maybe our worship is 1/3 that of a Christian's.
    Or maybe we're worshipping incorrectly entirely since they believe we should connect to Lord via Jesus and since we don't do that our worship is incorrect.
    " For indeed, it is not eyes that are blinded, but blinded are the hearts which are within the breasts" [22:46]

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    • #3
      Re: The Muslim Allah and the Christian God

      Your reasoning would be correct if, and only if, Jesus was God.

      There is any amount of evidence that Jesus did not see himself, or portray himself, as God. Jesus saw himself as a prophet and referred to himself as a prophet. It was only after his death that Jesus was thought of as God incarnate. So the bits in the biblical record where Jesus compares himself to prophets in conveniently overlooked in the name of doctrine and dogma.

      But have pity and compassion for Christians .... they are just following Churchianity.
      Free-will if good for him who is master of himself (Rumi)

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      • #4
        Re: The Muslim Allah and the Christian God

        chrisitan 'god' and Muslim God is not the same one anymore for if we say they are same in the sense that although they associate partners with God they still do worship the true God too, then we have to say the same for all religions as they too consider the true God to inhere in there idols etc

        the 'father' part of the Christians trinity is literally a humanoid father figure so that too is not Allah!

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        • #5
          Re: The Muslim Allah and the Christian God

          (you got a point)^2
          " For indeed, it is not eyes that are blinded, but blinded are the hearts which are within the breasts" [22:46]

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          • #6
            Re: The Muslim Allah and the Christian God

            Jehovah's Witnesses believe God is the Creator and Supreme Being. Jehovah Witnesses reject the Trinity doctrine, which they consider unscriptural. but their belief is still tainted with the believe that Jesus is God's "only-begotten Son".
            That being said even the Pagan arabs would pray to/recognise Allah, but associate other idols to worship with him.

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            • #7
              Re: The Muslim Allah and the Christian God

              Originally posted by Abisali View Post
              This question is to Muslims only, so please do not respond if you're not Muslim.

              Since Christians believe that Allah is three beings in one (Astaghfirallah) then would it be correct to say that we do not worship the same Lord, or is it more correct that they are just worshiping Him incorrectly?
              Our concept of God is different, period! We say God is One, they say he's One but...
              Allah is His name and it's an Arabic word that has no gender nor plurality of numbers. "God" encompasses/allows for the inclusion of both gender and pluralism. The Christian mind has to accept blindly that God is one in three and three in one, for the mind boggles when faced with such a mind crippling belief. Let me prove what I'm referring to here brothers. I want you to tell me the first mental picture that comes into your head when i write the word COW. Did anyone of you see a lion, a tiger, a beautiful woman, or a Ferrari? If you saw anything but a cow in your head, then your brain is in need of some psychoanalysing !

              I was not kidding above. If you can actually superimpose a picture on top of a picture when you were instructed otherwise, your brain would be in need of some serious and deep examination. So when a Christian tells you that he believes in just the One God, yet goes to such a length to explain (not prove but explain) to you what he means, he would be simply fooling himself into a false belief. The "Son", if you were to say it to a Christian, would have him conjure up a mental picture (most likely of some Scandinavian white looking Jesus) when Jesus was never white with straight blond hair and blue eyes (unless I'm missing something here re the way my brothers look in Palestine)..., and when you say the "Father", his mental picture is unlike of what his brain showed him to be Jesus. And then the "Holy Spirit", again it's like a dove or an invisible force working behind the scenes. Yet, they have the audacity to say they believe in One God and call their religion monotheistic.

              So the direct reply to your question is this: God is God, and the stuff up belongs to the hallucinating drivers sitting behind the wheels of Christianity, as fueled by their churches and their clergyman.

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              • #8
                Re: The Muslim Allah and the Christian God

                Originally posted by Abisali View Post
                This question is to Muslims only, so please do not respond if you're not Muslim.

                Since Christians believe that Allah is three beings in one (Astaghfirallah) then would it be correct to say that we do not worship the same Lord, or is it more correct that they are just worshiping Him incorrectly?
                Asalamalikum wrwb

                Sura 112 describes Allah more perfectly and the sura PROVES the word 'GOD" can never substitute 'Allah '' EXACTLY or 100 % though we use the word '' God'' to describe to the new comers to Islam. Because grammatically ' God' is Masculine , Goddess is Feminine and and Gods can be Multiple Gods but the word Allah is applicable to the only one so

                Allah is ONLY = Allah
                and no one else

                so that's why even those pagan Arabs before the birth of Prophet :saw: still considered ''Allah '' as THE most superior almighty ( Prophet's father's name was Abdullah) but still kept associates by means of attributing daughters & mediators to Allah and was their greatest sin , Shirk to rectify which the last Prophet :saw: was sent by Allah swt to them .


                So Muslims MUST call their Creator as ONLY ALLAH ( But Allah's attributes can be called in different words as in their own respective languages) That will become evident when we ponder on the first and last verse of sura 112 So the first verse says http://quran.com/112/1

                Sahih International
                Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,

                Muhsin Khan
                Say (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)): "He is Allah, (the) One.

                Pickthall
                Say: He is Allah, the One!

                Yusuf Ali
                Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;

                Shakir
                Say: He, Allah, is One.

                Dr. Ghali
                Say, "He is Allah, The Only One,

                A point to note it does not say '' Our Creator name is Allah '' who is the one or '' God is one '' and even the last verse of it ends with a Clear Big Bang http://quran.com/112/4

                Sahih International
                Nor is there to Him any equivalent."

                Muhsin Khan
                "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him."

                Pickthall
                And there is none comparable unto Him.

                Yusuf Ali
                And there is none like unto Him.

                Shakir
                And none is like Him.

                Dr. Ghali
                And to Him none could be co-equal."

                Which makes us realize that If Allah was our Creator's name than he is like his creation (but remember the WARNING Allah is incomparable to anyone anything http://quran.com/112/4 ) since each one of the CREATED '' having a name ''
                like a Tiger, Elephant etc but the word ''Allah ' is so Unique in multiple ways which may even take hours discussing

                1) its a pure grammar & Clear cut definition in it selves to the meaning of The One true incomparable Creator
                like a Pen is the Grammar & meaning to something which writes ( Note the word ' Pen ' am not referring to its brands like Parker, Steadler, Pilot, Cross etc etc )

                2) the word ''Allah ' is so Unique ONLY to Allah '' who is called as Allah in all all languages either in Arabic, Hebrew, Persian,Spanish, German etc etc unlike '' God ''who will be called '' Adonai , Hashem in Hebrew '' Ishwar in Hindi , Qudha in Urdu , WaheGuru by Sikhs (remember Sikhs do worship One God & Magians in the form of Fire ) and also Jehovah , Yahweh , Yahwahwah depending upon each languages how do they like to call God . and You do not know which One God you are Calling TO if you do not call him By Allah, The Ahad ( The ONE )

                3) Nothing like Moon God, Sun God, fake God etc etc , if You call as Allah there is no query of any such questions

                4) The Name of Allah is a win - win situation for the '' oneness '' of Allah & Islam because there is nothing so peculiar or unique in this GLOBE

                Note : Only Ahmadhiyas normally refer our Creator as'' God '' just to get admiration , good name of Non Muslims or the Int'l communityand Not Allah swt so they portray how bad they are deviated but allege themselves as Muslims.:(



                If someones calls our Lord Allmighty is nameless , reply them Yes its should be so because ONLY our Creator Alone is opposite to all the created ones( when Each of it has a name for it selves but our Creator did not ) as 112:1 & 4 but Allah has attributes which can be called or translated differently in different languages for example Ar Razzaq, can be called as ''the Provider '' in English and respective meanings pronounced differently in those different respective languages and there is no harm in it and Allah swt says him selves to describe him as such with those beautiful attributes ( not names as many misunderstand)

                In short Allah's 5 Alphabet's are like complete five fingers in comparison to the three Alphabet of ' God' is only like incomplete three fingers , this is just for an understanding
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                My sect - No Sect

                My Aqeedah - http://legacy.quran.com/112 ( The Aqeedah of Sahabas)

                Just a Muslim

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                • #9
                  Re: The Muslim Allah and the Christian God

                  The God of the Bible is not the Creator of the universe. The god of the old testament is god painted with jewish paintbrush and the god of NT is god painted by Nicaean paintbrush.

                  Allah is only Allah, who created the universe. Allah is not the biblical god(s).

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