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  • Is Muhammad Ali really a good role model/icon for the Muslims?

    ...really a good role model/icon for the Muslims?

    1) Doesn't have a beard
    2) Family members don't wear hijab
    3) Member of far right, racist Islamic sect
    4) Brought harm to his body for sport, money and fame

    Interesting points for discussion?

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    Re: Is Muhammad Ali...

    Originally posted by Usernamed View Post
    ...really a good role model/icon for the Muslims?

    1) Doesn't have a beard
    2) Family members don't wear hijab
    3) Member of far right, racist Islamic sect
    4) Brought harm to his body for sport, money and fame

    Interesting points for discussion?
    What's the racist, far right Islamic sect?
    Isa9, a sinner

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    • #3
      Re: Is Muhammad Ali...

      Originally posted by Usernamed View Post
      ...really a good role model/icon for the Muslims?

      1) Doesn't have a beard
      2) Family members don't wear hijab
      3) Member of far right, racist Islamic sect
      4) Brought harm to his body for sport, money and fame

      Interesting points for discussion?
      Muhammad ali is a sunni muslim....was done with boxing by that time
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      • #4
        Re: Is Muhammad Ali...

        Originally posted by Isa9 View Post
        What's the racist, far right Islamic sect?
        Nation of Islam. A deviant African sect, consider fukhran as their prophet..

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        • #5
          Re: Is Muhammad Ali...

          Originally posted by cdn_bro View Post
          Nation of Islam. A deviant African sect, consider fukhran as their prophet..
          he's not nation of Islam.
          Abu Malik at-Ash'ari reported:

          The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Cleanliness is half of faith

          and al-Hamdu Lillah (all praise and gratitude is for Allah alone) fills the scale, and Subhan Allah (Glory be to Allah)

          and al-Hamdu Lillah fill up what is between the heavens and the earth, and prayer is a light,

          and charity is proof (of one's faith)

          and endurance is a brightness and the Holy Qur'an is a proof on your behalf or against you.

          All men go out early in the morning and sell themselves, thereby setting themselves free or destroying themselves.



          حَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ مَنْصُورٍ، حَدَّثَنَا حَبَّانُ بْنُ هِلاَلٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبَانٌ، حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى، أَنَّ زَيْدًا، حَدَّثَهُ أَنَّ أَبَا سَلاَّمٍ حَدَّثَهُ عَنْ أَبِي مَالِكٍ الأَشْعَرِيِّ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ الطُّهُورُ شَطْرُ الإِيمَانِ وَالْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ تَمْلأُ الْمِيزَانَ ‏.‏ وَسُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ وَالْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ تَمْلآنِ - أَوْ تَمْلأُ - مَا بَيْنَ السَّمَوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ وَالصَّلاَةُ نُورٌ وَالصَّدَقَةُ بُرْهَانٌ وَالصَّبْرُ ضِيَاءٌ وَالْقُرْآنُ حُجَّةٌ لَكَ أَوْ عَلَيْكَ كُلُّ النَّاسِ يَغْدُو فَبَائِعٌ نَفْسَهُ فَمُعْتِقُهَا أَوْ مُوبِقُهَا ‏"‏ ‏.‏

          Reference : Sahih Muslim 223
          In-book reference : Book 2, Hadith 1
          USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 2, Hadith 432
          (deprecated numbering scheme)

          أَلَمْ تَرَوْا أَنَّ اللَّهَ سَخَّرَ لَكُم مَّا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَأَسْبَغَ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعَمَهُ ظَاهِرَةً وَبَاطِنَةً ۗ وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَلَا هُدًى وَلَا كِتَابٍ مُّنِيرٍ - 31:20

          Do you not see that Allah has made subject to you whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth and amply bestowed upon you His favors, [both] apparent and unapparent? But of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening Book [from Him].


          Please take a look at my blog : http://thinkingmuslima.blogspot.co.uk/

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          • #6
            Re: Is Muhammad Ali...

            Originally posted by Usernamed View Post
            ...really a good role model/icon for the Muslims?

            1) Doesn't have a beard
            2) Family members don't wear hijab
            3) Member of far right, racist Islamic sect
            4) Brought harm to his body for sport, money and fame

            Interesting points for discussion?
            1) He may not be able to grow one.
            2) He is not responsible for his adult children also I've read quotes where he advocates hijab.
            3) he left the NOI a long time ago, also, NOI is not racist anymore as far as I know.
            4) He started as a non-muslim. Also while doing his sport he was a role model and icon for the disenfranchised black people of America and a role model for the upcoming muslim community as was Malcolm X.

            May Allah grant him the highest station of Jannah.

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            • #7
              Re: Is Muhammad Ali really a good role model/icon for the Muslims?

              Originally posted by Usernamed View Post
              ...really a good role model/icon for the Muslims?

              1) Doesn't have a beard
              2) Family members don't wear hijab
              3) Member of far right, racist Islamic sect
              4) Brought harm to his body for sport, money and fame

              Interesting points for discussion?
              next time you dont want to put a proper title to your thread, it will go into the bin
              .لا نريد زعيما يخاف البيت الإبيض
              نريد زعيما يخاف الواحد الأحد
              دولة الإسلامية باقية





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              • #8
                Re: Is Muhammad Ali really a good role model/icon for the Muslims?

                Also, isn't sports such as wrestling allowed and wouldn't boxing be similar? I'm not a scholar but would that make boxing permissible?
                Abu Malik at-Ash'ari reported:

                The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Cleanliness is half of faith

                and al-Hamdu Lillah (all praise and gratitude is for Allah alone) fills the scale, and Subhan Allah (Glory be to Allah)

                and al-Hamdu Lillah fill up what is between the heavens and the earth, and prayer is a light,

                and charity is proof (of one's faith)

                and endurance is a brightness and the Holy Qur'an is a proof on your behalf or against you.

                All men go out early in the morning and sell themselves, thereby setting themselves free or destroying themselves.



                حَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ مَنْصُورٍ، حَدَّثَنَا حَبَّانُ بْنُ هِلاَلٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبَانٌ، حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى، أَنَّ زَيْدًا، حَدَّثَهُ أَنَّ أَبَا سَلاَّمٍ حَدَّثَهُ عَنْ أَبِي مَالِكٍ الأَشْعَرِيِّ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ الطُّهُورُ شَطْرُ الإِيمَانِ وَالْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ تَمْلأُ الْمِيزَانَ ‏.‏ وَسُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ وَالْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ تَمْلآنِ - أَوْ تَمْلأُ - مَا بَيْنَ السَّمَوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ وَالصَّلاَةُ نُورٌ وَالصَّدَقَةُ بُرْهَانٌ وَالصَّبْرُ ضِيَاءٌ وَالْقُرْآنُ حُجَّةٌ لَكَ أَوْ عَلَيْكَ كُلُّ النَّاسِ يَغْدُو فَبَائِعٌ نَفْسَهُ فَمُعْتِقُهَا أَوْ مُوبِقُهَا ‏"‏ ‏.‏

                Reference : Sahih Muslim 223
                In-book reference : Book 2, Hadith 1
                USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 2, Hadith 432
                (deprecated numbering scheme)

                أَلَمْ تَرَوْا أَنَّ اللَّهَ سَخَّرَ لَكُم مَّا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَأَسْبَغَ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعَمَهُ ظَاهِرَةً وَبَاطِنَةً ۗ وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَلَا هُدًى وَلَا كِتَابٍ مُّنِيرٍ - 31:20

                Do you not see that Allah has made subject to you whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth and amply bestowed upon you His favors, [both] apparent and unapparent? But of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening Book [from Him].


                Please take a look at my blog : http://thinkingmuslima.blogspot.co.uk/

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                • #9
                  Re: Is Muhammad Ali really a good role model/icon for the Muslims?

                  Originally posted by LailaTheMuslim View Post
                  Also, isn't sports such as wrestling allowed and wouldn't boxing be similar? I'm not a scholar but would that make boxing permissible?
                  Boxing is Haram. Its haram for Muslims to strike someone in the face.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Is Muhammad Ali really a good role model/icon for the Muslims?

                    Originally posted by Abisali View Post
                    Boxing is Haram. Its haram for Muslims to strike someone in the face.
                    Ok
                    Abu Malik at-Ash'ari reported:

                    The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Cleanliness is half of faith

                    and al-Hamdu Lillah (all praise and gratitude is for Allah alone) fills the scale, and Subhan Allah (Glory be to Allah)

                    and al-Hamdu Lillah fill up what is between the heavens and the earth, and prayer is a light,

                    and charity is proof (of one's faith)

                    and endurance is a brightness and the Holy Qur'an is a proof on your behalf or against you.

                    All men go out early in the morning and sell themselves, thereby setting themselves free or destroying themselves.



                    حَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ مَنْصُورٍ، حَدَّثَنَا حَبَّانُ بْنُ هِلاَلٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبَانٌ، حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى، أَنَّ زَيْدًا، حَدَّثَهُ أَنَّ أَبَا سَلاَّمٍ حَدَّثَهُ عَنْ أَبِي مَالِكٍ الأَشْعَرِيِّ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ الطُّهُورُ شَطْرُ الإِيمَانِ وَالْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ تَمْلأُ الْمِيزَانَ ‏.‏ وَسُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ وَالْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ تَمْلآنِ - أَوْ تَمْلأُ - مَا بَيْنَ السَّمَوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ وَالصَّلاَةُ نُورٌ وَالصَّدَقَةُ بُرْهَانٌ وَالصَّبْرُ ضِيَاءٌ وَالْقُرْآنُ حُجَّةٌ لَكَ أَوْ عَلَيْكَ كُلُّ النَّاسِ يَغْدُو فَبَائِعٌ نَفْسَهُ فَمُعْتِقُهَا أَوْ مُوبِقُهَا ‏"‏ ‏.‏

                    Reference : Sahih Muslim 223
                    In-book reference : Book 2, Hadith 1
                    USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 2, Hadith 432
                    (deprecated numbering scheme)

                    أَلَمْ تَرَوْا أَنَّ اللَّهَ سَخَّرَ لَكُم مَّا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَأَسْبَغَ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعَمَهُ ظَاهِرَةً وَبَاطِنَةً ۗ وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَلَا هُدًى وَلَا كِتَابٍ مُّنِيرٍ - 31:20

                    Do you not see that Allah has made subject to you whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth and amply bestowed upon you His favors, [both] apparent and unapparent? But of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening Book [from Him].


                    Please take a look at my blog : http://thinkingmuslima.blogspot.co.uk/

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                    • #11
                      Re: Is Muhammad Ali...

                      Originally posted by LailaTheMuslim View Post
                      he's not nation of Islam.
                      He was follower of NOI. Don't know if he converted or not

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                      • #12
                        Re: Is Muhammad Ali...

                        Muhammad Ali has not been in the NOI since most of you were born

                        he is a muslim, he does shave, he is not a scholar, and pretty much NOT a role model for anyone that i know of

                        his deen has grown since he left boxing, alhamdulillah, when he was boxing he was somewhat of a mess

                        but he did stand strong for many principles while he was boxing, and people have gained a certain level of admiration for him

                        but....................Muhammad ibn Abdullah is our role model صلى الله عليه و سلم not Muhammad Ali
                        .لا نريد زعيما يخاف البيت الإبيض
                        نريد زعيما يخاف الواحد الأحد
                        دولة الإسلامية باقية





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                        • #13
                          Re: Is Muhammad Ali really a good role model/icon for the Muslims?

                          Originally posted by Usernamed View Post
                          ...really a good role model/icon for the Muslims?

                          1) Doesn't have a beard
                          2) Family members don't wear hijab
                          3) Member of far right, racist Islamic sect
                          4) Brought harm to his body for sport, money and fame

                          Interesting points for discussion?
                          one of his biggest regrets, today, is that he used to call himself the greatest, and he realizes how stupid that was of him

                          he now has some debilitating disease
                          .لا نريد زعيما يخاف البيت الإبيض
                          نريد زعيما يخاف الواحد الأحد
                          دولة الإسلامية باقية





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                          • #14
                            Re: Is Muhammad Ali really a good role model/icon for the Muslims?

                            ...
                            Last edited by liya1; 05-09-15, 12:52 AM.
                            The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, "You must be gentle. Verily, gentleness is not in anything except that it beautifies it, and it is not removed from anything except that it disgraces it."

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                            • #15
                              Re: Is Muhammad Ali really a good role model/icon for the Muslims?

                              You have too much on your hands, to even think of such things come on Man. ARE YOU SERIOUS?

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