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    What's the difference between Sunni and Ahle-tashih (Shia)? What are their beliefs?

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    Re: What's the difference between Sunni and Ahle-tashih (Shia)?

    brother , there are countless threads on this issue all over internet.

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      Re: What's the difference between Sunni and Ahle-tashih (Shia)?

      Originally posted by Eden View Post
      What's the difference between Sunni and Ahle-tashih (Shia)? What are their beliefs?
      The Shia follow the Ahlul Bayt i.e the household of the Prophet :saw: and believe Ali Radhi-yallaahu 'anhu was appointed and was by the Prophet :saw: to be his successor , they believe in the 12 Imams, and depending on the groups do not think highly of a good many sahaba which can range from dislike to outright cursing and abusing them like pretty much anyone from Banu Ummayah like Uthman Ibn Affan, Amr Ibn Al Aas, Abu Sufyan, Muawiyah and some others, and the likes of Abu Bakr, Umar,, Khalid Ibn Al Walid, Talha & Zubayr , Aisha, Hafsah, Um Habiba [May Allah be pleased with them all]

      The few sahaba they do love and respect are Ammar Ibn Yasir, Salman Al Farsi, Abu Dharr Al Giffari, and some others like Ibn Masood, Adi ibn Hatim, the wives of the Prophet :saw: that aren't Aisha, Hafsah or Um Habiba and some others that i'm not sure of..... [may Allah be pleased with them all]

      Where as we sunnis, believe Abu Bakr Radhi-yallaahu 'anhu was the best of all the sahaba, and was most deserving of being the successor of the Prophet :saw: and there numerous evidences for this like him being appointed by the Prophet :saw: to lead the Muslims in Hajj, to lead the Muslims in salah when he was too ill to do so, the fact he is mentioned indirectly in Quran and many other reasons, and then Umar Radhi-yallaahu 'anhu after him and then Uthman Radhi-yallaahu 'anhu were all rightly guided and the legit rulers of the believers, followed by Ali Radhi-yallaahu 'anhu

      We love and respect every single sahaba, we love the household of the Prophet :saw: Ali, Fatimah, Hasan & Hussayn and of course all the wives who are our mothers [Radhi-yallaahu 'anhum] and we follow the Quran and the Sunnah of the Prophet :saw: and the sahaba after him.
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        Re: What's the difference between Sunni and Ahle-tashih (Shia)?

        Originally posted by Eden View Post
        What's the difference between Sunni and Ahle-tashih (Shia)? What are their beliefs?
        The Shia are not a monolithic group. They have not even been a consistent entity, as if a portion of the first generation disagreed and became Shia. The first "proto- Shia" emerged several years after the death of the Prophet(saw). Even then, they were not a formal entity, but individuals with their own nefarious schemes that which the actual Ahlil Bayt disassociated themselves.

        There are several Shia groups that have emerged and survived after generations of bidah kufr scheming. He largest Shia group is the Twelvers. Other groups include Zaydi, Ismaili, Alawi, Alevis.

        Today, if one were to group them all together with all of their deviant interpretations and innovations, they could constitute a separate religion that intentionally deviates and attempts to undermine Islam.

        There is one scholarly opinion that their various deviancies and unlawful innovations mislead themselves into Kufr.
        There is another scholarly opinion that ulama should render takfir on those who profess deviation from doctrinal concepts. If someone chooses to profess such Kufr, then he takfir applies to them, but not necessarily to any who might share his identity but does NOT cite such Kufr.
        The worst scholarly opinion suggests that any who follow the Jafari jurisprudence are Muslim regardless of their doctrinal deviations.

        As Shiism as an entirety continues to evolve, the extremes of the deviancies increase among the Shia. Entire groups can be recognized as murtadeen or kufar, namely the Alawi, Alevis, Ismaili.
        Among the 12vers and Zaydis, the second opinion applies and subsequently their ulama, students of Shia knowledge fall under it.

        And Allah knows best.
        Allahumma, aranee al haqqu haqqan wa arzuqnee itiba`ahu, wa aranee al baatilu baatilaan wa arzuqnee ijtinaabahu.Oh Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
        " Do you know what destroys Islam? A mistake made by a scholar, the argument of a hypocrite in writing and the ruling of leaders who wish for people to stray

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          Re: What's the difference between Sunni and Ahle-tashih (Shia)?

          As for the differences, they abound in large part because Shia have invented their own religion by gradually deviating in as many areas they can, from marriage, to worship, to doctrine, to politics.

          They pray differently, they believe in a different Quran, they unjustly attribute different attributes to Allah and imams, they seek political power over Muslims by lying and scheming against Muslims with the assistance of kufar, and so forth.
          Allahumma, aranee al haqqu haqqan wa arzuqnee itiba`ahu, wa aranee al baatilu baatilaan wa arzuqnee ijtinaabahu.Oh Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
          " Do you know what destroys Islam? A mistake made by a scholar, the argument of a hypocrite in writing and the ruling of leaders who wish for people to stray

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