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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ahmed 02 View Post

    Let me make it simpler for you
    • Allah SWT said that there is no flaw in his creation
    • I am asking you is an impaired eye an example of a flaw in the creation
    • if not could you please explain why
    This is all I am asking
    What your saying is you have doubts about what Allah عز و جل said, your thread title itself says you have doubts over ayaat in the Qur'an

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    Last edited by Saif-Uddin; 21-03-19, 04:46 AM.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Ahmed 02 View Post

      Could you explain what you mean by that?
      If you mean that if Allah SWT commands something and that we should hear and obey then yes i believe and act on what he says to the best of my ability
      He has to explain to you what it means to believe in Allah سبحانه وتعالى?

      Seriously are you having a laugh ?

      A Muslim believes in and accepts every word lf the Qur'an to be the word of our Lord Allah عز و جل and as such absolute Truth.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ahmed 02 View Post

        Sorry if I seemed rude, but I just wanted to ask for an explanation for the verse and the questions which followed
        Tafsir of Surah Mulk, Ayah 3

        Concerning Allah's statement,

        مَّا تَرَى فِي خَلْقِ الرَّحْمَنِ مِن تَفَاوُتٍ

        you can see no fault in the creation of the Most Gracious.

        means, it (the creation) is done in a flawless manner, and these are connected with each other so as to forms a straight level, having no disunion, conflict, inconsistency, deficiency, flaw or defect.

        This is the reason that Allah says,

        فَارْجِعِ الْبَصَرَ هَلْ تَرَى مِن فُطُورٍ

        Then look again. Can you see any rifts.

        meaning, look at the sky and pay close attention to it. Do you see any flaw, deficiency, defect or rifts in it?

        Ibn `Abbas, Mujahid, Ad-Dahhak, Ath-Thawri and others said,

        "it means cracks".

        As-Suddi said that,

        هَلْ تَرَى مِن فُطُورٍ

        (Can you see any rifts) means any tears.

        Qatadah said,

        هَلْ تَرَى مِن فُطُورٍ

        (Can you see any rifts) means,

        `do you see any defects O Son of Adam (mankind)'
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post

          Tafsir of Surah Mulk, Ayah 3

          Concerning Allah's statement,

          مَّا تَرَى فِي خَلْقِ الرَّحْمَنِ مِن تَفَاوُتٍ

          you can see no fault in the creation of the Most Gracious.

          means, it (the creation) is done in a flawless manner, and these are connected with each other so as to forms a straight level, having no disunion, conflict, inconsistency, deficiency, flaw or defect.

          This is the reason that Allah says,

          فَارْجِعِ الْبَصَرَ هَلْ تَرَى مِن فُطُورٍ

          Then look again. Can you see any rifts.

          meaning, look at the sky and pay close attention to it. Do you see any flaw, deficiency, defect or rifts in it?

          Ibn `Abbas, Mujahid, Ad-Dahhak, Ath-Thawri and others said,

          "it means cracks".

          As-Suddi said that,

          هَلْ تَرَى مِن فُطُورٍ

          (Can you see any rifts) means any tears.

          Qatadah said,

          هَلْ تَرَى مِن فُطُورٍ

          (Can you see any rifts) means,

          `do you see any defects O Son of Adam (mankind)'
          Now Ahmed 02, Onus is on you to tell us what defects, cracks in the heavens you see,

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ahmed 02 View Post

            Let me make it simpler for you
            • Allah SWT said that there is no flaw in his creation
            • I am asking you is an impaired eye an example of a flaw in the creation
            • if not could you please explain why
            This is all I am asking
            Allah عز و جل claimed you were perfect did he?
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            Show us the ayah,

            Even your example is a failure, considering we know Allah عز و جل tests us in various ways and nothing happens by random chance.

            What your doing is exposing more of your doubts that Shayatan has injected you with

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            • #21
              A flaw would be something that causes instability in universe which causes it to collapse. But the universe is in perfect harmony with perfect "Laws" stabilizing it.

              An impaired eye which you regard as "flaw" is not something that causes instability. It's how Allah wanted it to be. It's a health defect but not a defect in creation that destabilizes the whole creation.

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              • #22
                Asslamu alaykom bro,

                ​​​​​​I once read a book called my journey from doubt to faith by Mustafa mahmoud. He is a great author.

                There is a chapter in his book called The great consistency. I am going to give you examples from it
                1- if the Earth was a little bit smaller than it is now. It's gravity would be less so there would be no air. And the water would be all evaporated. Thus there will be no life on it. ( this is called consistency)

                2- if the earth's crust were thicker, all of the oxygen would be absorbed and we wouldn't be able to breathe ( consistency)

                3- each element in human's blood has a certain proportion. If it changed, you would get sick and die.
                ( وَخَلَقَ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ فَقَدَّرَهُ تَقْدِيرًا ) Alfurqaan :2 ( no flaws)

                I hope this answered your questions. You can read more examples in this book.
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                Last edited by Farah. A; 21-03-19, 10:02 PM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post

                  Tafsir of Surah Mulk, Ayah 3

                  Concerning Allah's statement,

                  مَّا تَرَى فِي خَلْقِ الرَّحْمَنِ مِن تَفَاوُتٍ

                  you can see no fault in the creation of the Most Gracious.

                  means, it (the creation) is done in a flawless manner, and these are connected with each other so as to forms a straight level, having no disunion, conflict, inconsistency, deficiency, flaw or defect.

                  This is the reason that Allah says,

                  فَارْجِعِ الْبَصَرَ هَلْ تَرَى مِن فُطُورٍ

                  Then look again. Can you see any rifts.

                  meaning, look at the sky and pay close attention to it. Do you see any flaw, deficiency, defect or rifts in it?

                  Ibn `Abbas, Mujahid, Ad-Dahhak, Ath-Thawri and others said,

                  "it means cracks".

                  As-Suddi said that,

                  هَلْ تَرَى مِن فُطُورٍ

                  (Can you see any rifts) means any tears.

                  Qatadah said,

                  هَلْ تَرَى مِن فُطُورٍ

                  (Can you see any rifts) means,

                  `do you see any defects O Son of Adam (mankind)'
                  Jazakallah khair for the tafsir of the verse. Now i understand what Allah SWT may have meant by the verse.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by notEVOLVED View Post
                    A flaw would be something that causes instability in universe which causes it to collapse. But the universe is in perfect harmony with perfect "Laws" stabilizing it.

                    An impaired eye which you regard as "flaw" is not something that causes instability. It's how Allah wanted it to be. It's a health defect but not a defect in creation that destabilizes the whole creation.
                    Jazakallah khair. it makes sense that the verse meant that there is no disunity in the creation. Thank you for the clarification

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Farah. A View Post
                      Asslamu alaykom bro,

                      ​​​​​​I once read a book called my journey from doubt to faith by Mustafa mahmoud. He is a great author.

                      There is a chapter in his book called The great consistency. I am going to give you examples from it
                      1- if the Earth was a little bit smaller than it is now. It's gravity would be less so there would be no air. And the water would be all evaporated. Thus there will be no life on it. ( this is called inconsistency)

                      2- if the earth's crust were thicker, all of the oxygen would be absorbed and we wouldn't be able to breathe ( inconsistency)

                      3- each element in human's blood has a certain proportion. If it changed, you would get sick and die.
                      ( وَخَلَقَ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ فَقَدَّرَهُ تَقْدِيرًا ) Alfurqaan :2 ( no flaws)

                      I hope this answered your questions. You can read more examples in this book.
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                      Walaykum salam
                      Jazakallah khair for explaining what the verse may have meant. I will try to have a look at the book you mentioned In sha Allah

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Ahmed 02 View Post

                        Jazakallah khair for the tafsir of the verse. Now i understand what Allah SWT may have meant by the verse.
                        What I don't understand is how you started having doubts about the Ayaat without even bothering to read the tafsir or ask for an explanation.

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