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  • #31
    Re: Scared/intimidated by my muslim sisters

    Originally posted by Linkdeutscher View Post
    No, that is not what you were saying.
    If you didn't any slaves in your life, I don't see why your comment could be useful to the brother.
    It is just out of topic, that's why I was asking because a contribution should bring him a useful information, not something he will never see!
    Keep it short, concise and simple.

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    • #32
      Re: Scared/intimidated by my muslim sisters

      Originally posted by Ayman2 View Post
      If you didn't any slaves in your life, I don't see why your comment could be useful to the brother.
      It is just out of topic, that's why I was asking because a contribution should bring him a useful information, not something he will never see!
      Keep it short, concise and simple.
      I never said I didn't see any slaves in my life.

      Anyway, it was not off topic. Your posts however that followed were off topic including these posts we are writing right now.
      You think you know more than my scholar's qiyās? He was more learned than you and all other scholars combined. Yeah, the devil was the greatest scholar too and look where his qiyās of fire being better than tīn got him. Sorry.

      You follow your scholar's qiyās, and I will follow the Qur'ān and Sunnah.

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      • #33
        Re: Scared/intimidated by my muslim sisters

        Originally posted by Suedi View Post
        Guess im lucky then, i have always loved arab women :D Somalis arent too bad either. Persians are the most beautiful of all but like every iranian in sweden is atheist
        This is a very interesting post. First of all, hello there my Germanic brother, I'm Dutch.

        "Persians are the most beautiful of all"

        This is very true, in my opinion. The grace, the beauty, the elegance of the Persian woman is simply unmatched in the world.

        "but like every iranian in sweden is atheist"

        This is the most interesting part of this post. I want to make a thread soon in the lounge about why this is. I did a bit of research as to why this is a couple of months ago. I also read some disturbing things, that atheism is also very rampant in Iran itself.
        Last edited by IlFaraone; 20-08-17, 10:55 AM.

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        • #34
          Re: Scared/intimidated by my muslim sisters

          muslim men and their fantasies of slave girls while sitting next to their lego created imaginery wife....

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          • #35
            Re: Scared/intimidated by my muslim sisters

            Originally posted by Suedi View Post
            since i embraced islam about 1,5 half year ago (swedish male convert) and though i REALLY genuinly think i love Allah swt and his messanger i have a problem that has not really improved... i have a very strange attitude thowards my muslim sisters. Its VERY difficult for me to even put into words, but i will do my best: whenever i come across a muslim sister, i feel... insecure, almost threatened. i genuinley do not know how to act. It might be that muslim women are generally kinda stigmatised here in the west...

            i think it runs deeper though. In a way, most of my past girlfriends and female friends (all are non muslim) i have had in all my adult life are pretty much the polar opposite of how muslim women are expected to act and generally behave. So to meet pious women with such different character is puzzeling.

            My girlfriends/female friends have all been moderate but enthusiastic drinkers, fairly promiscious and secular-feminist minded. When i talk to a muslim woman its almost like meeting a different species of woman. i feel... almost dirty and unworthy compared to their innocense and virtuos character. its almost a little intimidating to me. also what do you do when talking to a woman and youre not allowed to flirt with her? its such a wierd, new situation for me.

            I have the MOST "fear" of swedish sister converts. The generally high level of piety and good character of woman converts from my own culture that i have encountered has seriously caused me to feel insecure about my own iman and character. I admire them greatly because i know many of them go through a lost of prejudice and hate, but they do seem genuinley WIERD to me because they are swedish but at the same time so unlike my sister, cousins and swedish girls in matters of basic values! this makes me feel like a massive hypocrite because even though we share the same faith (and cultural origin) i feel distanced, almost intimidated by them.

            generally im not used to women with this kind of integrity and character who dont see themselves as objects. i want to stress that while i DO think this is the straight path for a woman and that i want this for my future daughters, it feels... UNNATURAL to me :(
            A man who feels insecure because of women,

            Facepalm

            And you still have Girlfriends?

            If the right path feels "unnatural" to you, then it's because you have been influenced by the path has been leading to Jahannam for so long that it has even affected your mentality,
            Last edited by Saif-Uddin; 20-08-17, 12:41 PM.

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            • #36
              Re: Scared/intimidated by my muslim sisters

              Originally posted by Suedi View Post
              since i embraced islam about 1,5 half year ago (swedish male convert) and though i REALLY genuinly think i love Allah swt and his messanger i have a problem that has not really improved... i have a very strange attitude thowards my muslim sisters. Its VERY difficult for me to even put into words, but i will do my best: whenever i come across a muslim sister, i feel... insecure, almost threatened. i genuinley do not know how to act. It might be that muslim women are generally kinda stigmatised here in the west...

              i think it runs deeper though. In a way, most of my past girlfriends and female friends (all are non muslim) i have had in all my adult life are pretty much the polar opposite of how muslim women are expected to act and generally behave. So to meet pious women with such different character is puzzeling.

              My girlfriends/female friends have all been moderate but enthusiastic drinkers, fairly promiscious and secular-feminist minded. When i talk to a muslim woman its almost like meeting a different species of woman. i feel... almost dirty and unworthy compared to their innocense and virtuos character. its almost a little intimidating to me. also what do you do when talking to a woman and youre not allowed to flirt with her? its such a wierd, new situation for me.

              I have the MOST "fear" of swedish sister converts. The generally high level of piety and good character of woman converts from my own culture that i have encountered has seriously caused me to feel insecure about my own iman and character. I admire them greatly because i know many of them go through a lost of prejudice and hate, but they do seem genuinley WIERD to me because they are swedish but at the same time so unlike my sister, cousins and swedish girls in matters of basic values! this makes me feel like a massive hypocrite because even though we share the same faith (and cultural origin) i feel distanced, almost intimidated by them.

              generally im not used to women with this kind of integrity and character who dont see themselves as objects. i want to stress that while i DO think this is the straight path for a woman and that i want this for my future daughters, it feels... UNNATURAL to me :(
              You should consider marriage ASAP. It will help you lower your gaze & you'll come to realize our sisters are gems & you've got nothing to fear from them.
              ليتني أموت على ما ماتت عليه عجائز نيسابور

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              • #37
                Re: Scared/intimidated by my muslim sisters

                Originally posted by Abdell View Post
                Yup.

                I dont think religiousity matters as much. I noticed its a compromise sisters make provided the guy Is White.

                Allah is the all wise thought...
                Not all sisters, this is a compromise I would never make and I'm sure many other practicing sisters wouldn't either. A while ago I've downloaded an Islamic app (where you can invite a mahram) for marriage and many white converts on the app are not practising (some not even praying). An instant turn off.

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                • #38
                  Re: Scared/intimidated by my muslim sisters

                  Originally posted by Iwnbd1 View Post
                  Not all sisters, this is a compromise I would never make and I'm sure many other practicing sisters wouldn't either. A while ago I've downloaded an Islamic app (where you can invite a mahram) for marriage and many white converts on the app are not practising (some not even praying). An instant turn off.
                  To you perhaps, but it is also a trend I've noticed with westernized Muslimah's willing to overlook an awful lot to marry a white revert. It's especially annoying when I'm trying to tell a brother to be patient, to sort his own life and deen out first but he's like "yeah but fulanah bint fulan from work is interested as is so-and so from down the street and such and such from the shop..."

                  Used to be hard for white revert brothers to marry, and though there still is a lot of racism out there in the Muslim community but the situation is very fluid and changing rapidly, and can see it changing to a situation where white revert brothers can get married as easily as the white revert sisters can pretty soon with all the negatives attached to that also.
                  Last edited by Gingerbeardman; 21-11-17, 04:37 AM.
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                  • #39
                    Re: Scared/intimidated by my muslim sisters

                    lol

                    That's great because in muslim communities, some men don't respect the women, the women are still seen as sex objects regardless of their modesty.

                    Turn the intimidation into respect and soon enough it will become normal for you. The more men that feel like this, the better for society.
                    'Whatever it be wherein ye differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn.' The Holy Qu'ran Al Shura (Consultation)

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Gingerbeardman View Post
                      Originally posted by Iwnbd1 View Post
                      Not all sisters, this is a compromise I would never make and I'm sure many other practicing sisters wouldn't either. A while ago I've downloaded an Islamic app (where you can invite a mahram) for marriage and many white converts on the app are not practising (some not even praying). An instant turn off.
                      To you perhaps, but it is also a trend I've noticed with westernized Muslimah's willing to overlook an awful lot to marry a white revert. It's especially annoying when I'm trying to tell a brother to be patient, to sort his own life and deen out first but he's like "yeah but fulanah bint fulan from work is interested as is so-and so from down the street and such and such from the shop..."

                      Used to be hard for white revert brothers to marry, and though there still is a lot of racism out there in the Muslim community but the situation is very fluid and changing rapidly, and can see it changing to a situation where white revert brothers can get married as easily as the white revert sisters can pretty soon with all the negatives attached to that also.
                      It's been like this for a while. For some reason, a lot of South Asian sisters especially are crazy for white reverts. A white revert man can marry an Indian/Pakistani/Bengali wife pretty easily.

                      It's even worse if you're a white woman. Men from every ethnicity will be flocking to them.
                      Last edited by Stoic Believer; 21-11-17, 02:34 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Scared/intimidated by my muslim sisters

                        Originally posted by Stoic Believer View Post
                        It's been like this for a while. For some reason, a lot of South Asian sisters especially are crazy for white reverts. A white revert man can marry an Indian/Pakistani/Bengali wife pretty easily.

                        It's even worse if you're a white woman. Men from every ethnicity will be flocking to them.
                        I think its because in the last 20 years many people have seen the problems and issues that arise with south asian men with the culture and backwards thinking
                        Obviously because most of these men were jaahil and were influenced by hindus and not islam they raised their children up in an environment where deen was implemented in the wrong manner so alot of these sisters want to prevent this happening to them in marriage

                        Its understandable

                        And the other reason is coz they just want something different

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                        • #42
                          Re: Scared/intimidated by my muslim sisters

                          Originally posted by Stoic Believer View Post
                          It's been like this for a while. For some reason, a lot of South Asian sisters especially are crazy for white reverts. A white revert man can marry an Indian/Pakistani/Bengali wife pretty easily.

                          It's even worse if you're a white woman. Men from every ethnicity will be flocking to them.
                          I would still say white reverts get knocked back over race at least 7/8 times, which is pretty terrible, however it's not much worse than anyone else trying to marry into an indo-pak family from an outside race so it's progress to some extent but only for white reverts, not anyone else.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Abu julaybeeb View Post
                            Originally posted by Stoic Believer View Post
                            It's been like this for a while. For some reason, a lot of South Asian sisters especially are crazy for white reverts. A white revert man can marry an Indian/Pakistani/Bengali wife pretty easily.

                            It's even worse if you're a white woman. Men from every ethnicity will be flocking to them.
                            I think its because in the last 20 years many people have seen the problems and issues that arise with south asian men with the culture and backwards thinking
                            Obviously because most of these men were jaahil and were influenced by hindus and not islam they raised their children up in an environment where deen was implemented in the wrong manner so alot of these sisters want to prevent this happening to them in marriage

                            Its understandable

                            And the other reason is coz they just want something different
                            If that was the case they wouldn't only be going after white men, they'd be cool with other ethnicities. While what you mentioned may be a factor, truth is these women (and men) just have a thing for whites.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Scared/intimidated by my muslim sisters

                              Originally posted by Stoic Believer View Post
                              If that was the case they wouldn't only be going after white men, they'd be cool with other ethnicities. While what you mentioned may be a factor, truth is these women (and men) just have a thing for whites.
                              From what ive seen they are cool with other ethnicities
                              But its subjective at the end of the day some will and some wont

                              I also think still parents are a factor due to unislamic culture alot wouldnt accept a black person sadly

                              And in the west if its not brown black or white the other minorities are very small so u cant see a clear pattern

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