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    Assalam o Alaikum
    Yesterday i read about ocd and i thought that the illness i affected with is ocd because its symptoms matched with my illness.I thought that i was affected by it from several years but i dont know.There's Ramadhan,and that ilness doesnt let me Fast easily.I spit many times,i thought that something is in my mouth,i thought that i am telling lies.I thought that i am doing shirk in Namaz for example when someone sitting with me i extend my Namaz.Bad thoughts and waswas coming in my mind.It doesnt let me do anything easily.Hatred among heart.I read do's and don'ts of Ramadhan and i thought i am not going well.
    My question is that what to do with ocd?
    Should It breaks my Fast if water goes under my throat unintentionally during wudhu?
    Does the dust of outside break my fast?

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    Re: Ramadhan and ocd

    Originally posted by Azmyr View Post
    Assalam o Alaikum
    Yesterday i read about ocd and i thought that the illness i affected with is ocd because its symptoms matched with my illness.I thought that i was affected by it from several years but i dont know.There's Ramadhan,and that ilness doesnt let me Fast easily.I spit many times,i thought that something is in my mouth,i thought that i am telling lies.I thought that i am doing shirk in Namaz for example when someone sitting with me i extend my Namaz.Bad thoughts and waswas coming in my mind.It doesnt let me do anything easily.Hatred among heart.I read do's and don'ts of Ramadhan and i thought i am not going well.
    My question is that what to do with ocd?
    Should It breaks my Fast if water goes under my throat unintentionally during wudhu?
    Does the dust of outside break my fast?
    How to overcome Waswas (shaythans whispers) in worship


    Bismillahirahmaaniraheem

    Waswas can become a very serious issue and it may take away the pleasure in worship and instead replace it with constant worry whether a person did Wudu or Salaah properly. It can become a very serious issue as a person will feel overwhelmed by paranoia with regards to theri worship and will always feel a sense of inadequacy.

    In worship terms Waswas means always have doubts about ones worship and not be sure of anything relating to worship as there is always a doubt there and this serious disease and illness is caused by shaythan.


    What are some of the symptoms of waswas?

    -You pray and then be not sure if you did.

    - You waste too much water and long time in wudu and ghusl.

    - You pray more than the number of rakats and do the sahu sujud every time. Even you pray more than once.

    - you are not sure if your clothes are clean and every moment change your clothes.

    - You follow the tiny things that are not even seen by eyes to clean them and remove them.

    - You worry too much and feel your worship is not complete.

    - You ask strange questions that people feel amazed about and show strange behavior for example: someone walks with shoes on the carpet until the spot where she prays just because she is not sure if the land is clean.

    - You spend a very long time in the bathroom, just washing.

    - You are not sure of any worship you did is complete.

    And many other strange things that can tell you are suffering form waswas.


    Waswas can become a serious problem especially if a person suffers from it constantly. Shaythan keeps putting doubts in ones mind and keeps telling the person that their prayer or wudu ghusl etc are not valid and that you have missed something out or not done it proprly and so you should do it again.

    Your clothes are not clean, wash them again and so on. The person keeps falling for this and by this time shaythan knows that this has become the persons weakness so shaythan is able to attack the person in many different angles.


    Eventually shaythan will go onto more serious matters of faith until he tries to convince a person that "Are you sure Allah exists"? Or shaythan tries to cast doubts in the mind of a person by convincing them that they had shirk thoughts and so they must do the shahada again because they have now become a kaafir and are out of the fold of Islam.

    Here are some real stories of people having waswas problem:

    A woman said: For 16 years, I everyday have shower and take shahada because I suddenly feel I am not sure, I am Muslim.

    A guy said: For years I pray and think I did not until I stopped praying at all.

    A woman said: I used to pray the prayer and keep repeating it until the next prayer.


    The best way's to resolve Extreme cases of waswas are:


    1. Waswas can occur with pretty much any practising Muslim particularly if they do not have sufficient knowledge of Islam and matters pertaining to fiqhi rulings.


    They care so much about wanting to worship right and please Allah and get so worried whether their deed has been accepted or not by Allah but the fact is they just do not know enough about Islam especially fiqhi matters.

    So it is VERY important to learn about Fiqh and various other aspects of Islam. Knowledge is key to eradicating this problem from your life!

    Join some fiqh classes face to face or online. Learn about other important aspects of Islam to. keep learning, learning and learning and you watch how these evil thoughts dissapear inshallah.


    2. JUST IGNORE shaythans whispers. He will keep telling you your worship is incorrect or you have missed out something in your salaah then you must NOT repeat the Salaah again.


    When you have done Wudu and something tells you that you have missed out something or have not done it properly then IGNORE those whispers.


    If shaythan tells you to do ghusl again because you never did it properly then IGNORE and NEVER obey these evil and deceptive whispers!


    If shaythan tries to tell you that you have attributed partners with Allah and that you have done shirk then IGNORE IT. He wants you to lose your faith and think that you have committed blasphemy when you have not done anything of the sort. if the mind wanders sometimes then that is fine all of our minds wander.


    Sayyiduna Abu Haraira (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that once a group of people came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and asked: “We experience such evil thoughts that it is impossible to bring them on our lips”. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Do you really experience these thoughts? Yes, they replied. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “They are clear signs of faith”. (Sahih Muslim).


    So these are signs of faith and ultimately, we are not held to account for these thoughts. However, we will be held to account if we act on these thoughts.


    Shaythan will then try to make you think that you did act on these feelings when all you did was involuntarily wandered about them in your mind. Even if they did linger in your mind it does not mean you acted on it. Almost all of us have random thoughts and absurdities going on in our minds all of the time it does not mean we necesserily believe what we thought of.

    Do NOT ever give in to these thoughts for shaythan is just trying to be clever but knowledge will give on the upper hand!

    Whenever you get these whispers then just think: IT IS SHAYTHAN TRYING TO DECIEVE ME AND PUT ME OFF MY WORSHIP!


    3. Once you have completed Wudu then move on and ignore whatever shaythan tells you regardless of how serious it sounds. You have completed it and there is no need to think of it anymore. Once you have completed your Salaah then move on and continue with the next one or get on with whatever you are doing with your day or evening. Do not think about it and ignore any thoughts associated with the worship you have just done.


    Whatever you have completed is done and is over and there is NOTHING more you can do about it so do not think back that you could have done this or that or whether you need to repeat it etc. These doubts will not affect the prayer or wudu etc which you have completed so disregard and reject the whispers that tell you otherwise.


    These are all tricks of shaythan and you need to realise what his angles are. You need to play him at his own game and that way you will have the upper hand everytime!


    Just think of what you need to do to please Allah and do not be extreme in religion.


    4. Who decides whether your worship will be complete or not? Shaythan or Allah? So by listening to the whispers of shaythan then you are simply obeying Shaythan over Allah! Therefore we must ignore his evil whispers and realise that ONLY Allah can accept our deeds so we should obey Allah and ignore these waswas.



    5. If you get waswas then recite the following:


    A'udhu billaahi minashaythanirajeem


    and


    La Hawla Wala Quwatha Illah billahil aliyyil Adheem



    Also recite the four Quls Morning and evening and Ayatul Kursi Morning, before going to sleep and after every prayer.

    If shaythan whispers to you in prayer then look lft and spittle and recite A'udhu billaahi minashaythanirajeem


    thank Allah, wholeheartedly, for enabling you to overcome your desires and shaytan [saying, Alhamdulillah (‘All praise is due to Allah’)]; this makes Shaytan despair, and strengthens one’s resolve.


    The following verse of Surah al-mu’minun may also be beneficial:


    “Rabbi inni a’uzu bika min hamazat ashayatin wa a’uzu bika rabbi an yahdurun”


    Trans: O my Lord! I seek your protection from the instigations of devils and I also seek your protection from that they (ever) come to me.



    6. Why disobey Allah and listen to shaythans whispers? By constantly repeating wudu, salaah and wasting so much time then we are going against Allah and instead listening to shaythans evil whispers. The fact is Allah wants you to reject the waswas but shaythan wants you to accept them, then who will you listen to? The choice is yours...


    A desert Arab came to Allah's Apostle and asked him about ablution. He demonstrated (washing each part of his body) thrice, and then said: That is (the method) of the ablution. And he who does more than this has done wrong, transgressed the limit and has oppressed (himself). (Tirmidhi #417 , Nasa'i, Ibn Majah, and Abu Dawud)


    This hadith proves that one does NOT need to keep repeating the wudu over and over for no reason just because shaythan is telling us to repeat it. We would then transgress and oppress ourselves by doing so! Sameway one does not have to repeat the ghusl or prayers again and again for no reason just because shaythan tells us to. We are praying for Allah so shaythan has NO say in it and NEVER has!


    7. It is unlikely that you will not be able to conquer waswas overnight. Shaythan will not give up so easily for he will try and make you feel like you just don't care anymore about your worship or shirk etc but again this is just one of his many tactics that he uses to try and put off Allah's worshippers and so know that you know the different angels then you are now more equiped to fight these evil whispers.


    There are many more different angles that the shaythan will use but they will all be similar in nature, so if you follow these tips then eventually you will be able to eradicate this disease out of your life FOREVER! and start to enjoy your worship of Allah again Inshallah.


    So countract all of these negative thoughts that you get after worship with positive thoughts and realise that ONLY Allah can accept your deeds and knows what is in your heart not Shaythan for he is just a deciever!


    Allah Most High has promised,

    “As for those who strive in Us, We surely guide them to Our paths, and lo! Allah is with the good.” [Qur’an, 29.69]



    And Allah knows best in all matters

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    • #3
      Re: Ramadhan and ocd

      are these waswasas that comes to me in Saum that ur Saum is broken.i spit more times in a day and say that what is the evidence that my Saum is broken.It hurts me alot.

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      • #4
        Re: Ramadhan and ocd

        Originally posted by Azmyr View Post
        are these waswasas that comes to me in Saum that ur Saum is broken.i spit more times in a day and say that what is the evidence that my Saum is broken.It hurts me alot.
        My brother this is waswas which is related to OCD and you need to ignore it. Go through the steps in the article above and also read the following article and follow the steps. Also ask of Allah to help you:

        Therapy as treatment for obsessive-compulsive disorder


        The most effective treatment for obsessive-compulsive disorder is often cognitive-behavioral therapy. Antidepressants are sometimes used in conjunction with therapy, although medication alone is rarely effective in relieving the symptoms of OCD.


        Cognitive-behavioral therapy for obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD)


        Cognitive-behavioral therapy for obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) involves two components:

        1. Exposure and response prevention involves repeated exposure to the source of your obsession. Then you are asked to refrain from the compulsive behavior you’d usually perform to reduce your anxiety. For example, if you are a compulsive hand washer, you might be asked to touch the door handle in a public restroom and then be prevented from washing. As you sit with the anxiety, the urge to wash your hands will gradually begin to go away on its own. In this way, you learn that you don’t need the ritual to get rid of your anxiety—that you have some control over your obsessive thoughts and compulsive behaviours.


        2. Cognitive therapy focuses on the catastrophic thoughts and exaggerated sense of responsibility you feel. A big part of cognitive therapy for OCD is teaching you healthy and effective ways of responding to obsessive thoughts, without resorting to compulsive behaviour.

        Four Steps for Conquering Symptoms of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)


        Psychiatrist Jeffrey Schwartz, author of Brain Lock: Free Yourself from Obsessive-Compulsive Behavior, offers the following four steps for dealing with OCD:
        • RELABEL – Recognize that the intrusive obsessive thoughts and urges are the result of OCD. For example, train yourself to say, "I don't think or feel that my hands are dirty. I'm having an obsession that my hands are dirty." Or, "I don't feel that I have the need to wash my hands. I'm having a compulsive urge to perform the compulsion of washing my hands."
        • REATTRIBUTE – Realize that the intensity and intrusiveness of the thought or urge is caused by OCD; it is probably related to a biochemical imbalance in the brain. Tell yourself, "It's not me—it’s my OCD," to remind you that OCD thoughts and urges are not meaningful, but are false messages from the brain.
        • REFOCUS – Work around the OCD thoughts by focusing your attention on something else, at least for a few minutes. Do another behavior. Say to yourself, "I'm experiencing a symptom of OCD. I need to do another behavior."
        • REVALUE – Do not take the OCD thought at face value. It is not significant in itself. Tell yourself, "That's just my stupid obsession. It has no meaning. That's just my brain. There's no need to pay attention to it." Remember: You can't make the thought go away, but neither do you need to pay attention to it. You can learn to go on to the next behavior.



        Source: Westwood Institute for Anxiety Disorders


        Family therapy for OCD treatment[/h]Because OCD often causes problems in family life and social adjustment, family therapy can often be beneficial.
        • Family therapy promotes understanding of the disorder and can help reduce family conflicts.
        • It can motivate family members and teach them how to help their loved one.


        Group therapy for OCD treatment


        Through interaction with fellow OCD sufferers, group therapy provides support and encouragement and decreases feelings of isolation.


        Self-help for OCD tip 1: Challenge obsessive thoughts and compulsive behaviours


        If you have obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), there are many ways you can help yourself in addition to seeking therapy.


        Refocus your attention


        Learn to recognize and reduce stress



        Watch 4-min. video: Quick Stress Relief


        When you’re experiencing OCD thoughts and urges, try shifting your attention to something else.
        • You could exercise, jog, walk, listen to music, read, surf the web, play a video game, make a phone call, or knit. The important thing is to do something you enjoy for at least 15 minutes, in order to delay your response to the obsessive thought or compulsion.
        • At the end of the delaying period, reassess the urge. In many cases, the urge will no longer be quite as intense. Try delaying for a longer period. The longer you can delay the urge, the more it will likely change.


        Write down your obsessive thoughts or worries


        Keep a pad and pencil on you, or type on a laptop, smartphone, or tablet. When you begin to obsess, write down all your thoughts or compulsions.
        • Keep writing as the OCD urges continue, aiming to record exactly what you're thinking, even if you’re repeating the same phrases or the same urges over and over.
        • Writing it all down will help you see just how repetitive your obsessions are.
        • Writing down the same phrase or urge hundreds of times will help it lose its power.
        • Writing thoughts down is much harder work than simply thinking them, so your obsessive thoughts are likely to disappear sooner.


        Anticipate OCD urges


        By anticipating your compulsive urges before they arise, you can help to ease them. For example, if your compulsive behavior involves checking that doors are locked, windows closed, or appliances turned off, try to lock the door or turn off the appliance with extra attention the first time.
        • Create a solid mental picture and then make a mental note. Tell yourself, “The window is now closed,” or “I can see that the oven is turned off.”
        • When the urge to check arises later, you will find it easier to relabel it as “just an obsessive thought.”


        Create an OCD worry period


        Rather than trying to suppress obsessions or compulsions, develop the habit of rescheduling them.
        • Choose one or two 10 minute “worry periods” each day, time you can devote to obsessing. Choose a set time and place (e.g. in the living room from 8:00 to 8:10 a.m. and 5:00 to 5:10 p.m.) that’s early enough it won’t make you anxious before bedtime.
        • During your worry period, focus only on negative thoughts or urges. Don’t try to correct them. At the end of the worry period, take a few calming breaths, let the obsessive thoughts or urges go, and return to your normal activities. The rest of the day, however, is to be designated free of obsessions and compulsions.
        • When thoughts or urges come into your head during the day, write them down and “postpone” them to your worry period. Save it for later and continue to go about your day.
        • Go over your “worry list” during the worry period. Reflect on the thoughts or urges you wrote down during the day. If the thoughts are still bothering you, allow yourself to obsess about them, but only for the amount of time you’ve allotted for your worry period.


        Create a tape of your OCD obsessions


        Focus on one specific worry or obsession and record it to a tape recorder, laptop, or smartphone.
        • Recount the obsessive phrase, sentence, or storyexactly as it comes into your mind.
        • Play the tape back to yourself, over and over for a 45-minute period each day, until listening to the obsession no longer causes you to feel highly distressed.
        • By continuously confronting your worry or obsession you will gradually become less anxious. You can then repeat the exercise for a different obsession.


        Self-help for OCD tip 2: Take care of yourself


        A healthy, balanced lifestyle plays a big role in keeping OCD behavior, fears, and worry at bay.


        Practice relaxation techniques


        While stress doesn’t cause OCD, a stressful event can trigger the onset of obsessive and compulsive behavior, and stress can often make obsessive-compulsive behavior worse.
        • Mindful meditation, yoga, deep breathing, and other stress-relief techniques may help reduce the symptoms of anxiety brought on by OCD.
        • Try to practice a relaxation technique for at least 30 minutes a day.


        Adopt healthy eating habits


        Start the day right with breakfast, and continue with frequent small meals throughout the day. Going too long without eating leads to low blood sugar, which can make you feel more anxious.
        • Eat plenty of complex carbohydrates such as whole grains, fruits, and vegetables. Not only do complex carbs stabilize blood sugar, they also boost serotonin, a neurotransmitter with calming effects.


        Exercise regularly


        Exercise is a natural and effective anti-anxiety treatment that helps to control OCD symptoms by refocusing your mind when obsessive thoughts and compulsions arise.
        • For maximum benefit, try to get 30 minutes or more of aerobic activity on most days. Aerobic exercise relieves tension and stress, boosts physical and mental energy, and enhances well-being through the release of endorphins, the brain’s feel-good chemicals.


        Avoid alcohol and nicotine


        Alcohol temporarily reduces anxiety and worry, but it actually causes anxiety symptoms as it wears off. Similarly, while it may seem that cigarettes are calming, nicotine is actually a powerful stimulant. Smoking leads to higher, not lower, levels of anxiety and OCD symptoms.


        Get enough sleep


        Not only can anxiety and worry cause insomnia, but a lack of sleep can also exacerbate anxious thoughts and feelings. When you’re well rested, it’s much easier to keep your emotional balance, a key factor in coping with anxiety disorders such as OCD.


        Self-help for OCD tip 3: Reach out for support


        Obsessive-compulsive behavior (OCD) can get worse when you feel powerless and alone, so it’s important to build a strong support system. The more connected you are to other people, the less vulnerable you’ll feel. Just talking about your worries and urges can make them seem less threatening.


        Stay connected to family and friends


        Obsessions and compulsions can consume your life to the point of social isolation. In turn, social isolation can aggravate your OCD symptoms. It’s important to have a network of family and friends you can turn to for help and support. Involving others in your treatment can help guard against setbacks and keep you motivated.


        Join an OCD support group


        You’re not alone in your struggle with OCD, and participating in a support group can be an effective reminder of that. OCD support groups enable you to both share your own experiences and learn from others who are facing the same problems. For a searchable database of OCD support groups, see the Resources and References section below.


        Helping a loved one with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD)


        If a friend or family member has OCD, your most important job is to educate yourself about the disorder. Share what you’ve learned with your loved one and let them know that there is help available. Simply knowing that OCD is treatable can sometimes provide enough motivation for your loved one to seek help.


        Tips for helping a friend or family member with OCD


        The way you react to a loved one’s OCD symptoms can have a big impact.
        • Negative comments or criticism can make OCD worse, while a calm, supportive environment can help improve the outcome of treatment. Focus on the sufferer’s positive qualities and avoid making personal criticisms.
        • Don’t scold someone with OCD or tell the person to stop performing rituals. They can’t comply, and the pressure to stop will only make the behaviors worse. Remember, your loved one’s OCD behaviors are symptoms, not character flaws.
        • Be as kind and patient as possible. Each sufferer needs to overcome problems at their own pace. Praise any successful attempt to resist OCD, and focus attention on positive elements in the person’s life.
        • Do not play along with your loved one’s OCD rituals. Helping the sufferer with rituals will only reinforce the behavior. Support the person, not their rituals.
        • Create a pact to not allow OCD to take over family life. Sit down as a family and decide how you will work together to tackle your loved one’s OCD symptoms. Try to keep family life as normal as possible and the home a low-stress environment.
        • Communicate positively, directly and clearly. Communication is important so you can find a balance between standing up to the OCD and not further distressing your loved one.
        • Find the humor. Seeing the humor and absurdity in some OCD symptoms can help the sufferer become more detached from the disorder. Of course, a situation is only humorous if the sufferer finds it funny, too.


        Source: http://www.helpguide.org/mental/obse...sorder_ocd.htm
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        • #5
          Assalam Alaikum,
          I want to thank you, Hamza81, for the help you have given the original poster and for others, including me,¬* that are suffering from OCD. The links and posts you put here for waswasa and ocd¬* are the best I've seen on the net and are very helpful to many Muslims suffering. Allah bless you and may it be counted as Sadaqa jariah. Thank you!

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