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    #16
    Re: VEDAS foretells About Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

    Originally posted by Tnatr View Post
    How do you know they aren't fabricated like Muslims claim the Jesus prophecy in the Old Testament is?
    Muslims don't claim that the prophecy of the Messiah of the Tanach is a false one. No, on the other hand we confirm it. Jesus was prophesized to be the Messiah (Christ) and King of Israel and a sign to all people. But unlike Christians we don't twist the prophecies to claim that it prophecises the death of Jesus or that Jesus is God. Isiah 53 does not prophesise the DEATH of Jesus but the SAVING of Jesus from DEATH. If it did then it contradicts Psalm 91 where GOD promises to give Jesus LONG LIFE and save Jesus from death. Satan quoted from Psalm 91 and Jesus didn't contradict it.

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      #17
      Re: VEDAS foretells About Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

      Originally posted by Jihaaaaaaad View Post
      Muslims don't claim that the prophecy of the Messiah of the Tanach is a false one. No, on the other hand we confirm it. Jesus was prophesized to be the Messiah (Christ) and King of Israel and a sign to all people. But unlike Christians we don't twist the prophecies to claim that it prophecises the death of Jesus or that Jesus is God. Isiah 53 does not prophesise the DEATH of Jesus but the SAVING of Jesus from DEATH. If it did then it contradicts Psalm 91 where GOD promises to give Jesus LONG LIFE and save Jesus from death. Satan quoted from Psalm 91 and Jesus didn't contradict it.
      How in the world does Isaiah 53 prophecy of Jesus being saved from death?!

      "And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth."

      Research the Septuagint, Old Testament prophecy, and the Gospels. It shows how ignorant your argument is.
      Last edited by Tnatr; 13-11-14, 01:44 PM.

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        #18
        Re: VEDAS foretells About Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

        Originally posted by talibilm09 View Post
        edit : Add to post # 13



        You did not address the issue (post # 11) why ? the saving of the body of Pharaoh from the midst of the sea bed, the Greatest miracle of its kind ( Pharaoh body is there in Egypt as alive Proof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83fOJMTQBvc ) was not mentioned in the OT ,NT ? or the Torah ? WHICH IS THE 1st SOURCE OF THIS SPECTACULAR EVENT OF HISTORY ?

        Open Challenge to all the Christians, Jews alive on the Globe. '' TRUTH PREVAILS :up: "
        Satan knows a thing or two about history.

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          #19
          Re: VEDAS foretells About Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

          Originally posted by Tnatr View Post
          Satan knows a thing or two about history.
          Satan is powerless infront of Allah and his faithful messengers.
          ".......He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to thee from Allah increaseth in most of them (kuffar) their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy.Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah doth extinguish it;but they (ever) strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not those who do mischief."(5:64)

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            #20
            Originally posted by Tnatr View Post
            Originally posted by talibilm09 View Post
            edit : Add to post # 13



            You did not address the issue (post # 11) why ? the saving of the body of Pharaoh from the midst of the sea bed, the Greatest miracle of its kind ( Pharaoh body is there in Egypt as alive Proof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83fOJMTQBvc ) was not mentioned in the OT ,NT ? or the Torah ? WHICH IS THE 1st SOURCE OF THIS SPECTACULAR EVENT OF HISTORY ?

            Open Challenge to all the Christians, Jews alive on the Globe. '' TRUTH PREVAILS :up: "
            Satan knows a thing or two about history.

            Bible: The ruler in the time of Joseph(Yusuf) AS was called a pharoah

            Quran; The ruler in the time of Joseph(Yusuf) was called simply a king

            History: No pharoahs at the time of biblical Joseph.

            Checkmate, Christians

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              #21
              Re: VEDAS foretells About Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

              Originally posted by Jihaaaaaaad View Post
              Bible: The ruler in the time of Joseph(Yusuf) AS was called a pharoah

              Quran; The ruler in the time of Joseph(Yusuf) was called simply a king

              History: No pharoahs at the time of biblical Joseph.

              Checkmate, Christians
              Pharaoh just means a ruler in Egypt. You could call it Pharaoh, King, Ruler, or whatever you want.

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                #22
                Re: VEDAS foretells About Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

                Originally posted by snow_flakes View Post
                Satan is powerless infront of Allah and his faithful messengers.
                Yeah, like David and Solomon.

                "The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

                "Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?"

                Or Adam, Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahalaleel, Jared, Enoch, Methuselah, Lamech, Noah, and Abraham: http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...sus-in-Genesis

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                  #23
                  Re: VEDAS foretells About Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

                  this is the thread that occurred in my search, that lead me here.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Tnatr View Post
                    Originally posted by Jihaaaaaaad View Post
                    Bible: The ruler in the time of Joseph(Yusuf) AS was called a pharoah

                    Quran; The ruler in the time of Joseph(Yusuf) was called simply a king

                    History: No pharoahs at the time of biblical Joseph.

                    Checkmate, Christians
                    Pharaoh just means a ruler in Egypt. You could call it Pharaoh, King, Ruler, or whatever you want.
                    No, just no.

                    Pharoah is a title and the title cannot be used for a king or governor. It has its place in the times. The Bible writer made a terrible mistake.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Tnatr View Post
                      Originally posted by talibilm09 View Post
                      edit : Add to post # 13



                      You did not address the issue (post # 11) why ? the saving of the body of Pharaoh from the midst of the sea bed, the Greatest miracle of its kind ( Pharaoh body is there in Egypt as alive Proof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83fOJMTQBvc ) was not mentioned in the OT ,NT ? or the Torah ? WHICH IS THE 1st SOURCE OF THIS SPECTACULAR EVENT OF HISTORY ?

                      Open Challenge to all the Christians, Jews alive on the Globe. '' TRUTH PREVAILS :up: "
                      Satan knows a thing or two about history.
                      Consider the Quran that:

                      *embarrasses Satan beyond mere humiliation and curses him
                      * clears the chastity of Virgin Mary all over Arabia. (Say thank you Satan!)
                      * humiliates the polytheists while glorifying the monotheism of Abraham (say thank you Satan)
                      * encourages charity (so much many times than the Bible)
                      * encourages good adab (treatment of parents, neighbours, family and community)

                      Etc

                      This excuse of yours goes beyond ludicrous.

                      Consider also this: If the Quran is indeed the word of God bestowed upon the Seal of the Prophets through angel Gabriel, are you calling Gabriel Satan???

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                        #26
                        Re: VEDAS foretells About Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

                        Originally posted by Tnatr View Post
                        Satan knows a thing or two about history.
                        I did not get your reply , if it is so you mean that my challenge was Satanic, You should know we Muslims need not challenge others since Islam is growing on its own with its THE MOST CLEAR CUT monotheism and The message of The Lord '' The Noble Quran '' from the creator of the worlds but its you people WHO come HERE to debate , try to misguide us even with your DISTORTED Books and CHALLENGE us with threads like these below, and is from yourselves on your Previous name of Nintentacle.

                        http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...46#post6171146

                        http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...-cause-fitnah)
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                          #27
                          Re: VEDAS foretells About Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

                          Originally posted by talibilm09 View Post
                          Peace & greetings,

                          Sanjay Dwivedi ,a high cast Hindu, A Brahmin From a prestigious Family and who studied about 15 years to become a Pandit or a Hindu scholar, later studied the Quran and embraced Islam told these facts That One True God has been mentioned in many places of vedas as one without form, without father or mother as believed in Islam. Prophet Muhammad (sal) has been mentioned in the Vedas (about 4000 years) as Muhammad and Prophet Abraham Or Ibrahim(as) is also mentioned in Vedas in Rig Vedha as ' 'Abrahm'' the one who is Circumcised and mentioning about Prophet Muhammad its been clearly mentioned he will be circumcised and he will be meat eater while followers of Vedas there were mainly Pure vegetarians called , the brahmins. Al Biruni,The Islamic Scientist,Astronomer who came to India says Brahmins of High status were purely monotheist (from wiki as below)

                          '' Al-Biruni was disgusted by scholars who failed to engage'' PRIMARY SOURCES'' in their treatment of Hindu Religion.......................................... .................................................. ..............

                          Al-Biruni divides Hindus into an educated and an uneducated class. He describes the educated as monotheistic, believing that God is one, eternal, and omnipotent and eschewing all forms of idol worship. He recognizes that uneducated Hindus worshipped a multiplicity of idols yet points out that even some Muslims (such as the Jabiriyya) have adopted anthropomorphic concepts of God. (Ataman, 2005) ''


                          But still a part of the world likes Assumptions, Imaginations and creates comparision to The One True God, the Creator. which is the Biggest Injustice & the Biggest unforgivable sin as Per the Noble Quran.

                          kindly watch Mr Divedi as "Ahmed Pandit' but in Urdu ,Hindi

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W928jZVfCm4

                          Here's a translation of this video from my limited Hindi, Urdu knowledge as follows

                          Today we can see there is a line or queue of gods in them is not because they benefit from them but they worship them to achieve peace of their hearts. I had many friends who taught vedas and granth to others but I myself saw that they were never Peaceful. Why ? beacuse there was a big search in their hearts for the real Creator who had sent the Message to mankind. And that is Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)

                          Reads in sanskrit and translates..This Muhammad will be born in Arabia which will be near sea. Does it mean river Ganges ? Its the same place where we are standing now which is close to the sea (might be he was in middle east while delivering this speech) reads Sanskrit and translates..Lets clear it more. The ambassador of God will be born in a such a place where its surroundings have been visited by many other Ambassadors of God before him. He will be the last Ambassadors among all those ambassadors of God.

                          Reads sanskrit translates... that God who is the one and the Most Powerful God whose representative he will be and he will proclaim the truth to the mankind that the Creator of Mankind is only one and Most Powerful and none else except him. So Big Truth the vedas are exclaiming,screaming,and you will get these vedas today at the market or holybooks bazar, am not talking about vedas 300 years old which have been Kept in Banaras(sacred city) all these proofs i've told you are in those vedas in the market.And those vedas that I was taught is not available in the holybooks market now.You can research about Prophet's name in the vedas from the market.the 15 times of Prophet Muhammad 's name mentioned will also be available in them.

                          Let see what will Prophet will do after he comes (as in vedas)

                          He will bring such a message which will give success to humanity & what will be the last message. READS SANSKRIT TRANSlates

                          Ganga (ganges) does not mean the name of river but it means pure water which refers to the purest water of Zam zam.
                          He will have 5 things that the earlier Ambassadors of God did not have.
                          1)One will be zamzam well
                          2)The city where they will turn their face while Praying
                          3) will Preach message or Mission of about one god(not clear)
                          4)circumcision will be followed by his people.
                          5)he will bring book of God or message, it means Noble Quran which will tell how to lead the complete life

                          Reads Sanskrit Translates,

                          He will be the Guru of all Gurus(Guru means Teacher or leader) He will inform from Arabia and message will be spread from there. will use Clear water those of angels he will use or Zam zam water (or refers to cleaning of Prophet's heart by angels) Reads Sanskrit & translates.. After Delivering the above 5 things he will declare to God saying that the responsibility God gave him He has delivered it completely to the mankind and his duty is now completed.

                          ( I think he refers to the last haj Sermon where Prophet(saw) says ''(http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...arewell-Sermon)

                          '' Toward the end of his sermon, Muhammad asked "O people, have I faithfully delivered unto you my message?" A powerful murmur of assent "O Allah, yes!", arose from thousands of pilgrims and the vibrant words "Allahumma na’m" rolled like thunder throughout the valley. Muhammad raised his forefinger and said: "Be my witness O Allah, that I have conveyed your message to your people." )


                          And his followers Men & women will love & follow the Guru ( teacher) such as babies run after their Mothers, such will be the Gurus's students and follow his message( not sure) This is the light that Vedas Emit, are we ready to take advantage of it ? Ask ourselves in how much darkness we are now ? we have been worshipping some many gods leaving the Real ONE to be worshipped, But Inspite of it See how kind is our True One God , our Creator who has been fullfilling all our needs though we have sinned but did not ask anything in return . Inspite of knowing our real Creator ,Are we not yet ready to turn to him ?
                          This thread is bumped as a Proof to liars who claim that Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) 's name was not Prophesied in Scriptures Replied the below thread, replied in my post # 37

                          http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...2117-Isaiah-42
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                            #28
                            Re: VEDAS foretells About Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

                            Who is Vedas? :Scratch: good night :Sleepy:

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                              #29
                              Re: VEDAS foretells About Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

                              Originally posted by AJ4u View Post
                              Who is Vedas? :Scratch: good night :Sleepy:
                              The Vedas are the Hindu scriptures. Mohammed being mentioned in the Hindu scriptures which Muslims see as a polytheistic religion makes as much sense as claiming Mohammed was mentioned in the Bible, which they believe to be corrupted. IMHO

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                                #30
                                Re: VEDAS foretells About Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

                                Originally posted by Arbed View Post
                                The Vedas are the Hindu scriptures. Mohammed being mentioned in the Hindu scriptures which Muslims see as a polytheistic religion makes as much sense as claiming Mohammed was mentioned in the Bible, which they believe to be corrupted. IMHO
                                Isn't that like wanting your cake and eat it too? it doesn't make sense

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