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  • #16
    Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

    Originally posted by LailaTheMuslim View Post
    the bible, the Torah, the psalms are all confirmed by Islam to be the words of God so they count as books sent by God to other nations.
    The Bible is not Confirmed by the Quran,

    the Bible is a Collection of Books from the old and new testament, Truth and Falsehood.

    it was never revealed to Esa(as),

    the Gospel/Injeel was revealed to Esa (as), and there is no written account of it.

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    Last edited by Saif-Uddin; 11-06-14, 12:55 AM.
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    • #17
      Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

      God promised every person will given enough light/guidance to see the truth. So there is no need for distribution. Since God has made a better promise.
      People may or may not read the distributed Quran, but since God have said everyone will receive enough light to see the truth no one will be punished for what he haven't done.

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      • #18
        Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

        This is a very nice question indeed! I will try to explain briefly.

        First of all, the message of God to all nations via all prophets (peace be upon all of them) was and is the SAME!
        To distinguish differences which we can see nowadays, first we have to read and analyze all the books carefully and with respect.

        Al-Qur'an has more than six thousand verses. 1/6 of them are talking about many scientific facts many of which you cannot find in other previous revelations cause our ancestors won't understand them like we do nowadays. Is it worthy to present a cardiology book to a two year old child? Of course not!

        Around 1/3 of the verses talk about the glory of Allaah (God).
        The rest talk about how we should lead our life in this earth, kinship, friendship, brotherhood, love, marriage, food, travel, education, our characters, how should we worship, whom should we worship, what will happen in the hereafter and so on.

        But there are some messages which are common from Adam (pbuh) to Muhammad (pbuh)-
        1. Worship to One God
        2. Believe and follow your prophets (they are not gods but human being like us, they are the messengers of God to mankind)
        3. Angels are not gods or goddesses, they worship One God
        4. Believe in the judgement day and in the hereafter
        5. Jinns are not angels, they are a different creation. Do not worship them! They have to worship that One God!

        In no books God promised that He will keep it unaltered. But only in Qur'an He promised to keep it unchanged! If you talk with the christian scholars and historians, they will tell you that Bible has changed several times! So now you may see in Gospel of John 3:16-
        For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (KJV)

        Now if you ask the same historians, you will get a completely different view of Qur'an which is still unaltered. In Qur'an you can find almost all the characters, Jesus (pbuh), his virgin mother Mary (pbuh) and other figures! Qur'an says clearly and boldly that Lord is One, He has no son and no parents, He is free from all needs (He does not eat like Jesus did and so on...). We, Muslims, believe that Jesus is one of the mightiest messengers of God but Jesus is a human being, he is not any God or any form of God or son of God! Christians make movies and portrait Jesus's character using an actor, they draw his face. But we muslims, we do not do that for Muhammad (pbuh), for Jesus (pbuh) or for any other prophets (pbut) out of respect!

        I want to end here. Give thoughts, you will understand my words. Words of the revelations are different, but the message is the same- One God, one religion, no discrimination, no differences, all equal, PEACE!

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        • #19
          Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

          Originally posted by LailaTheMuslim View Post
          the bible, the Torah, the psalms are all confirmed by Islam to be the words of God so they count as books sent by God to other nations.
          But why do they all come from such a confined geographical area? Why is there nothing in history resembling Abrahamic religion, in areas outside its natural influence?

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          • #20
            Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

            Originally posted by ExNihilo View Post
            But why do they all come from such a confined geographical area? Why is there nothing in history resembling Abrahamic religion, in areas outside its natural influence?
            Because physics.

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            • #21
              Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

              Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
              Because physics.
              That's neither an explanation or even a complete sentence.

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              • #22
                Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

                Originally posted by ExNihilo View Post
                That's neither an explanation or even a complete sentence.
                How can something go outside it's natural influence?

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                • #23
                  Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

                  Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
                  How can something go outside it's natural influence?
                  The claim is that all nations, in all times, have received their own prophets. But the only prophets/religions that bear any resemblance to Islam are Judaism and Christianity.

                  These religions have a high degree of overlap with Islam geographically, historically and philosophically - so this resemblance is to be expected.

                  Why is there nothing resembling Islam in places like China, pre Columbian America and Aboriginal culture?

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                  • #24
                    Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

                    Originally posted by ExNihilo View Post
                    The claim is that all nations, in all times, have received their own prophets. But the only prophets/religions that bear any resemblance to Islam are Judaism and Christianity.

                    These religions have a high degree of overlap with Islam geographically, historically and philosophically - so this resemblance is to be expected.

                    Why is there nothing resembling Islam in places like China, pre Columbian America and Aboriginal culture?
                    What kind of resemblance are you looking for?

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                    • #25
                      Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

                      Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
                      What kind of resemblance are you looking for?
                      Whatever you like - anything at all that shows a clear link to Islam.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

                        Originally posted by ExNihilo View Post
                        Whatever you like - anything at all that shows a clear link to Islam.
                        I'm not sure what you mean by a clear link to Islam. Do you mean laws and beliefs?

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                        • #27
                          Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

                          Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
                          I'm not sure what you mean by a clear link to Islam. Do you mean laws and beliefs?
                          Laws, beliefs, names, places, events, stories, references, books, anything.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

                            Originally posted by ExNihilo View Post
                            Laws, beliefs, names, places, events, stories, references, books, anything.
                            Is murder unlawful in China?

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                            • #29
                              Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

                              Originally posted by LailaTheMuslim View Post
                              the bible, the Torah, the psalms are all confirmed by Islam to be the words of God so they count as books sent by God to other nations.
                              yes, but I always wondered why God seems to have concentrated mainly on the Mediterranean/Middle East region.

                              The world is much, much wider than that....

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                              • #30
                                Re: Why doesn't God deliver the same revelation of Himself to all nations?

                                Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
                                Is murder unlawful in China?
                                Perhaps something just a teeny weeny bit more specifically Islamic?

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