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  • Errors in Quran ?

    Salam,

    In a debate with one of my atheist friend, he replied to me that there is errors in the quran.

    He gave me a few of them:

    23:12
    And certainly did We create man from an extract of clay.

    23:13
    Then We placed him as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging.

    23:14
    Then We placed him as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging.

    After this verses he told me the baby is created from 1 Spermatozoon. Not from a drop. The sperm-drop contain millions of spermatozoons. The sperm-drop does not become an embryo, the embryo is the union between an ovum and a spermatozoon. My friend also told me that the way an embryo is created according to quran is the same as



    41:9
    Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals? That is the Lord of the worlds."

    41:10
    And He placed on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface, and He blessed it and determined therein its [creatures'] sustenance in four days without distinction - for [the information] of those who ask.

    41:11
    Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly."

    41:12
    And He completed them as seven heavens within two days and inspired in each heaven its command. And We adorned the nearest heaven with lamps and as protection. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.


    According to this four verses, Allah created the earth before the heavens. But that is illogic according the the modern sciences.





    21:80
    And We taught him the fashioning of coats of armor to protect you from your [enemy in] battle. So will you then be grateful?

    This Surah is talking about the prophet David. According to this verses, David created the first coat of armor. But according to historic sources, it is the celts who devised the first coat of armors.





    Is this real errors or not? If yes, it will certainly mean that the quran is not the book of God.

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    Errors in Glorious Quran?

    Salam,

    In a debate with one of my atheist friend, he replied to me that there is errors in the quran.

    He gave me a few of them:

    23:12
    And certainly did We create man from an extract of clay.

    23:13
    Then We placed him as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging.

    23:14
    Then We placed him as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging.

    After this verses he told me the baby is created from 1 Spermatozoon. Not from a drop. The sperm-drop contain millions of spermatozoons. The sperm-drop does not become an embryo, the embryo is the union between an ovum and a spermatozoon. My friend also told me that the way an embryo is created according to quran is the same as



    41:9
    Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals? That is the Lord of the worlds."

    41:10
    And He placed on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface, and He blessed it and determined therein its [creatures'] sustenance in four days without distinction - for [the information] of those who ask.

    41:11
    Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly."

    41:12
    And He completed them as seven heavens within two days and inspired in each heaven its command. And We adorned the nearest heaven with lamps and as protection. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.


    According to this four verses, Allah created the earth before the heavens. But that is illogic according the the modern sciences.





    21:80
    And We taught him the fashioning of coats of armor to protect you from your [enemy in] battle. So will you then be grateful?

    This Surah is talking about the prophet David. According to this verses, David created the first coat of armor. But according to historic sources, it is the celts who devised the first coat of armors.





    Is this real errors or not?

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    • #3
      Re: Errors in Glorious Quran?

      The first few verses are regarding embryology, and as the following essay shows, none of these verses contain any errors: http://www.iera.org.uk/downloads/Emb...Quran_v1.1.pdf
      This Surah is talking about the prophet David. According to this verses, David created the first coat of armor. But according to historic sources, it is the celts who devised the first coat of armors.
      The verse your quoted 21:80 is translated incorrectly, the Qur`an states وَعَلَّمْنَاهُ صَنْعَةَ لَبُوسٍ لَّكُمْ لِتُحْصِنَكُم مِّن بَأْسِكُمْ ۖ فَهَلْ أَنتُمْ شَاكِرُ*ونَ


      The word "first" is not in the Arabic, it just mentions that Allah Most High taught the Prophet Dawud how to make a coat of arms, which his people did not have any knowledge of.

      You should stay away from deviant sites who can't read or comprehend the Arabic language.
      The spiritual warrior is he who breaks an idol;
      and the idol of each person is his Ego.

      - Imam Abul Qasim al-Qushayri

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      • #4
        Re: Errors in Glorious Quran?

        Originally posted by al-ghazalli View Post
        The first few verses are regarding embryology, and as the following essay shows, none of these verses contain any errors: http://www.iera.org.uk/downloads/Emb...Quran_v1.1.pdf


        The verse your quoted 21:80 is translated incorrectly, the Qur`an states وَعَلَّمْنَاهُ صَنْعَةَ لَبُوسٍ لَّكُمْ لِتُحْصِنَكُم مِّن بَأْسِكُمْ ۖ فَهَلْ أَنتُمْ شَاكِرُ*ونَ


        The word "first" is not in the Arabic, it just mentions that Allah Most High taught the Prophet Dawud how to make a coat of arms, which his people did not have any knowledge of.

        You should stay away from deviant sites who can't read or comprehend the Arabic language.
        Excellent reply akhi!

        I hope this clears the issues raised inshAllah.
        If you have any questions feel free to PM me!

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        • #5
          Re: Errors in Glorious Quran?

          :wswrwb:

          OP, tell the person the Holy Quran isn't a science book. ALLAH (SWT) gives us brief details on creation but not in too much detail.
          'Nor say of anything,"I shall be sure to do so and so tomorrow" without adding, " if Allah (SWT) Wills" (18:23-24)

          QuranExplorer.com, where you can Listen to the Holy Recitation and Translation online in Arabic and English : http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/ :)

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          • #6
            Re: Errors in Glorious Quran?

            41:9
            Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals? That is the Lord of the worlds."

            41:10
            And He placed on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface, and He blessed it and determined therein its [creatures'] sustenance in four days without distinction - for [the information] of those who ask.

            41:11
            Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly."

            41:12
            And He completed them as seven heavens within two days and inspired in each heaven its command. And We adorned the nearest heaven with lamps and as protection. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.


            According to this four verses, Allah created the earth before the heavens. But that is illogic according the the modern sciences.
            Is my english faulty because I fail to see how these verses say that the earth was created before the heavens ?
            Here is an article explaining these verses.
            http://islamic-replies.ucoz.com/Univ...s_Hadiths.html
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            • #7
              Re: Errors in Glorious Quran?

              Originally posted by garet122 View Post

              23:12
              And certainly did We create man from an extract of clay.

              After this verses he told me the baby is created from 1 Spermatozoon. Not from a drop. The sperm-drop contain millions of spermatozoons. The sperm-drop does not become an embryo, the embryo is the union between an ovum and a spermatozoon. My friend also told me that the way an embryo is created according to quran is the same as

              According to this four verses, Allah created the earth before the heavens. But that is illogic according the the modern sciences.

              Is this real errors or not?
              I agree with others, stay away from people who come up with these silly arguments. They base their arguments on nothing, they have no knowledge of Quran or arabic language so how can they accuse it of errors? seriously...all it will end up doing is confusing you. There are many brothers/sisters who are confused about things which they have no knowledge of.

              Anyway, clay. Adam (as) from clay, we are from him via sperm/eggs.So if Adam(as) from clay, one could say all humans are from it too. He was not born from sperm/egg etc.
              regarding the drop, doesnt Quran say we are from mixture of male and female fluids? Anyway, Quran is not science textbook. If you go back 1400 years, people did not know what a spermatozoa was. to why would Quran say "humans come from sperm, which contains millions of these little things and you are made from one of them" This verse was not revealed to educate people in science.

              your quote doesnt imply earth was created first.
              Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly."
              time frame isnt mentioned

              errors...none. its just the atheists looking into things too much. they were expecting Quran to be a book of science. Atheists generally dont like religion, I dont expect them to think about these arguments, they just say it hoping you become atheist too.

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              • #8
                Re: Errors in Glorious Quran?

                Asalaamu Alaikum,

                I already replied to you in regards to the earth/universe order - http://www.load-islam.com/artical_de...orious%20Quran
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                • #9
                  Google stats on "quran errors" vs "bible errors"

                  Quran has 80,000 words
                  Bible has 774,746 words
                  Now search google for "quran errors and contradictions"
                  and search google for "bible errors and contradictions"
                  "quran errors and contradictions" = 134,000
                  "bible errors and contradictions" = 683,000
                  Now let's calculate how many error articles Quran and Bible has per word: errors / words
                  Bible: 683,000 / 774,746=0.881
                  Quran: 134,000 / 80,000=1.675

                  Now let's do same thing in Arabic.
                  if I use translator and search for these terms in Arabic I see that a lot of Quran contradictions are being discussed in Arab world.
                  Quran contradictions=تناقضات القرآن
                  2,850,000
                  Bible contradictions=تناقضات الكتاب المقدس
                  119,000

                  Edit:
                  Few more stats.
                  In English
                  "Quran contradictions": 786,000
                  "Bible contradictions": 5,190,000

                  In Arab world Quran/Bible
                  2,850,000/119,000=23.4

                  in English world Bible/Quran
                  5,190,000/786,000=6.6

                  Arabs discuss 23.4 times more contradictions of Quran than Bible.
                  English world discusses 6.6 times more contradictions of Bible than Quran.

                  And Few more other unrelated stats.

                  "Sex" word in English vs Arabic
                  English = 494,000,000
                  Arabic = 12,300,000

                  "Porno" word in English vs Arabic
                  English 985,000,000
                  Arabic 6,340,000
                  Last edited by ibelieve; 22-05-12, 02:11 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Google stats on "quran errors" vs "bible errors"



                    What's your point? Actually, there is no point, because there are no contradictions in the Quran. All that researching for nothing eh.

                    Do not think of minor sins as insignificant, for mountains are made out of pebbles.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Google stats on "quran errors" vs "bible errors"

                      lol man you would have a phd in the school of darwin if you gave them this "report"
                      And the (faithful) slaves of the Most Gracious (All‚h) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness. (25:63)

                      O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a trade that will save you from a painful torment? (10) That you believe in All‚h and His Messenger (Muhammad SAW),and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of All‚h with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (11) (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwellings in Adn (Edn) Paradise; that is indeed the great success. (12)

                      JazakAllah khair for the duas but i would prefer duas for shahadah instead.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Google stats on "quran errors" vs "bible errors"

                        Originally posted by ibelieve View Post
                        Quran has 80,000 words
                        Bible has 774,746 words
                        Now search google for "quran errors and contradictions"
                        and search google for "bible errors and contradictions"
                        "quran errors and contradictions" = 134,000
                        "bible errors and contradictions" = 683,000
                        Now let's calculate how many error articles Quran and Bible has per word: errors / words
                        Bible: 683,000 / 774,746=0.881
                        Quran: 134,000 / 80,000=1.675

                        Now let's do same thing in Arabic.
                        if I use translator and search for these terms in Arabic I see that a lot of Quran contradictions are being discussed in Arab world.
                        Quran contradictions=تناقضات القرآن
                        2,850,000
                        Bible contradictions=تناقضات الكتاب المقدس
                        119,000
                        lol,

                        you have failed to prove even One Contradiction in the Quran ...

                        while we can post numerous ones from the Bible, poroving that it is not the Word of God.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Google stats on "quran errors" vs "bible errors"

                          Someones got too much time to kill...

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                          • #14
                            Re: Google stats on "quran errors" vs "bible errors"

                            Whats your point....?

                            You just typing "Qur'an errors and contradictions" in this thread gave that list +1...

                            but yet it proves nothing...just pointless.
                            "O friend, the cloth from which your burial shroud will be cut may have already reached the market and you remain unaware." Imam al-Ghazali R.A.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Google stats on "quran errors" vs "bible errors"

                              you should go shooting with a colt 45. I know the bible belt loves shooting.
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