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  • #46
    Do Muslims Believe In God's Grace?

    https://www.quranspeaks.com/post/do-...in-god-s-grace

    Divine Grace in Islam | Dr. Shabir Ally

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6yYD2y9l00

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    • #47


      16 I have chosen and consecrated this temple so that my Name may be there forever. My eyes and my heart will always be there.
      2 Chronicles 7:16


      It is clear and understandable that the unlimited God is impossible to limit or circumscribe anywhere.

      God does not bind himself in the templeBecause Christ indicated the place of God in heaven

      In fact, the Bible states that God has a specific dwelling place, which is the heavens.


      A prayer for King Solomon in which he says:

      “43 then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your own people
      Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name.

      1 Kings 8:43


      When Jesus Christ taught his disciples how to pray,
      'Our Father in heaven, may your name be kept holy.
      Matthew 6:9


      After Christ’s resurrection, he ascended “to heaven itself, now to appear before God,” the Bible states.​—Hebrews 9:24.

      24 For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God’s presence.




      The story of the
      Temple is just lies, written by the scribes of the "Bible",

      They attributed this fabricated story to God.

      This is for the benefit of the Jews for their occupation of
      Jerusalem


      Considering that their king will not be completed except by the return of that alleged temple.

      There is no reliable source that proves that Solomon, peace be upon him, built this temple

      And also
      Why did the Holy Quran not speak of the
      Temple? If he is of such sanctity and majesty that the Jews mention?!



      انجليزي يقول ابنتي حاضت في السن 8_ واجابات جميلة صدمت نصراني عن عائشة من قبل الشيخ


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ44iwqwTgA


      أبعد منه!_ زائر ينعت هاشم بالقذر والخنزير فجاءه الرد Speaker's corner

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAhae-OiyRQ

      إنجليزية تعتنق الإسلام! يوم عظيم - Speaker's corner
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dCGcw4_DA4

      زائر يتهرب من سماع رسالة الإسلام من حمزة
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u9gpAZg6fY

      أحمق! انجليزي و هاشم Speakers corner
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0FE0OfnmR8

      لاعب رغبي مشهور يدين بإنجازاته لاعتناق الإسلام- أصبحت حراً
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW0nAJ8Bvpk

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      • #48
        How come readers of the Quran know that ants speak, when it was revealed 1,400 years ago? Muhammad couldn't read or write.



        That's because it was revealed to him. Despite being illiterate, he was revealed this information from Allah. There is a Surah called Al-Naml which means The Ants.



        The verse in the Quran goes like, [Quran 27.18] Until, when they came upon the valley of the ants, an ant said (for females), "O ants, enter your homes so that you do not be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they do not feel it."



        “All male ants have wings. All worker ants are females. All ants that don't have wings are definitely females. This was only known recently. But 1400 years ago the Quran addressed ants who cannot fly in the female mode:



        For the word "said": Kala (قال) is for males. Kalat (قالت) is for females. The Quran used Kalat (female).



        If this ant had wings it would have flown off however it didn't have this option, instead it's only option was to hide underground. Since it didn't have wings then this was definitely a female ant. Here the Quran correctly addressed this ant in the female mode.”



        This is truly an amazing thing that was in the Quran ,as ants communicate with each other, such as to warn another, presented in this verse.



        Ants ' Wingless ants are all females' Miracles of Quran #HUDATV



        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMD9Z2UsIqw





        Quran miracle, Talking ants, Scientific discovery in 2009, proof that quran is from God



        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEGPOaAilvc


        النقاش والحوارالمسيحي مع المسلم وإزدواجية المعايير
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwTYitvpLgo
        الرد على المسيحي الذي يرفض محمد لأنه تزوج طفلة ست سنوات
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQGlzRJaaWg&t=260s
        زائر محترم يود التعرف أكثر على الإسلام - حوار حمزة مع زائر

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIzeChfucWU

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        • #49
          Why is there an increasing trend of converts to Islam worldwide?


          How, why and when did you convert to Islam?

          I converted to Islam last year's summer.

          I decided to become religious because I had frightening questions about the afterlife…but the problem was, which religion?

          It all started thanks (yeah, thanks!) to the so called “critiques of Islam". They would go on and on saying that the Qur'an is evil, Muhammad was a warmonger etc, etc.

          Now, I like to consider myself an intellectually honest person so I visited both anti-islamic and Islamic sites. The Islamic sites used very basic knowledge to completely debunk anti-islamic arguments which left me impressed, to say the least.

          (I am 100% Italian btw, but I've never really found Christianity appealing. Islam on the other had a natural fashion.)

          I bought and read a translated Qur'an, in which there were useful notes with historical context and studies done on certain statements of the Qur'an.

          That's how I got to know more about the purest form of islam and it's scientific, historical and mathematical miracles.

          That really left me wondering, how could a man from 1400 years ago know such things?! Things like “it's the female bee that makes honey” and much, much more. (I suggest you to look into these things deeper)

          I started looking for errors, and I obviously found countless claims by anti-islamic sites (such as wikiislam)… but they didn't really penetrate into my heart and most of the times were lacking of solid arguments ( the rest of the times the Arabic words they used as “proof for errors” had many more meanings that changed between translation and translation, so it didn't really make sense either). I looked more into the life of the prophet pbuh (to be sure I looked both into reliable Muslim AND non-muslim sources) and found out many heartwarming things, which the islamophobes would call “propaganda” or “taqqiya”, words of which they don't know the real meaning… especially if said by a non-muslim!

          I integrated that knowledge with studies done by respectable figures such as Dying to win by Robert Pape (I suggest you to look into that as well)

          I decided then to convert.

          Wasn't it for “islamophobia” I would have never been a Muslim today.

          And I pray God to let me die as a believing and practicing muslim, inshallah.

          https://www.quora.com/Why-is-there-a...slam-worldwide



          Why Jesus said: I am the way and the truth and the life

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdt9FDi6DGw




          ثلاثة مسلمين إنجليز يُقنعون شاباً لاعتناق الإسلام

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnzDDj05Ecw


          الشيخ عثمان ابن فاروق ومسيحي مهتم بالإسلام
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHBQmn2BF1s


          شمسي مع شاب ملحد محترم - نظرية التطور وكشف أسرار داروين Speaker's corner

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3FHtigH5-4

          الدكتور اسف يشرح الاسلام الأمريكية فتنطق الشهادة
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM8a1WRRFi4

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          • #50
            Muhammad ibn (son of) Abdullah ibn (son of) Abdul Mutalib, was born on 12 Rabi 'Awwal in the year 570 C.E. (Christian Era) in Makkah, (today: Saudi Arabia) and he died in 633 C.E. in Yathrib (today: Madinah, Saudi Arabia)




            In Arabic the word prophet (nabi) is derived from the word naba which means news. Thus we deduce that a prophet spreads the news of God and His message, they are in a sense God’s ambassadors on earth. Their mission is to convey the message to worship One God. This includes, calling the people to God, explaining the message, bringing glad tidings or warnings and directing the affairs of the nation. All the prophets were anxious to convey God’s message sincerely and completely and this included the last prophet, Muhammad. During his final sermon Prophet Muhammad asked the congregation three times whether he had delivered the message, and called on God to witness their answer, which was a resounding “yes!”.

            As well as the essence of their call to One God, another accepted sign of the truth of the prophets is how they live their lives. The accounts of Prophet Muhammad’s life that we have inherited from our righteous predecessors illustrate that Muhammad’s Prophethood was guided by God from the very beginning. Long before, Prophethood Muhammad was being prepared to guide humankind to the straight path and his life experiences stood him in good stead for such a weighty mission. Then at the age of 40 when Prophethood was bestowed upon him, God continued to support and affirm his mission. Any account of Muhammad’s life is filled with examples of his exemplary character; he was merciful, compassionate, truthful, brave, and generous, while striving solely for the rewards of the Hereafter. The way Prophet Muhammad dealt with his companions, acquaintances, enemies, animals and even inanimate objects left no doubt that he was ever mindful of God.

            Muhammad’s birth was accompanied by many so called miraculous events and the talk of the extraordinary events no doubt functioned as signs of Prophethood,

            Special but not unique circumstances surrounded childhood of Prophet Muhammad and these undoubtedly had a bearing on his character. By the time he was eight years old he had suffered through the death of both his parents and his beloved grandfather Abdul Muttalib. He was left in the care of his uncle and great supporter Abu Talib. Thus even as a young boy he had already suffered great emotional and physical upheaval. Both the many chroniclers of Muhammad’s life and the Quran acknowledge his disrupted life.

            Did He not find you (O Muhammad) an orphan and gave you a refuge? (Quran 93:6)

            Muhammad’s uncle Abu Talib was poor and struggled to keep his family fed, thus during his adolescence Muhammad worked as a shepherd. From this occupation he learned to embrace solitude and developed characteristics such as patience, cautiousness, care, leadership and an ability to sense danger. Shepherding was an occupation that all the prophets of God we know of had in common. ‘…The companions asked, “Were you a shepherd?” He replied, “There was no prophet who was not a shepherd.”’[1]

            In his teens Muhammad sometimes travelled with Abu Talib, accompanying caravans to trade centres. On at least one occasion, he is said to have travelled as far north as Syria. Older merchants recognized his character and nicknamed him Al-Amin, the one you can trust. Even in his youth he was known as truthful and trustworthy. One story that is accepted by most Islamic scholars and historians is the account of one of Prophet Muhammad’s trips to Syria.

            The story goes that the monk Bahira foretold the coming Prophethood and counselled Abu Talib to “guard his nephew carefully”. According to biographer Ibn Ishaq, as the caravan in which Prophet Muhammad was travelling approached the edge of town, Bahira could see a cloud that appeared to be shading and following a young man. When the caravan halted under the shadow of some trees, Bahira “looked at the cloud when it over-shadowed the tree, and its branches were bending and drooping over the apostle of God until he was in the shadow beneath it.” After Bahira witnessed this he observed Muhammad closely and asked him many questions concerning a number of Christian prophecies he had read and heard about.

            The young Muhammad was distinguished among his people for his modesty, virtuous behaviour and graceful manners, thus it was no surprise for his companions to see him, even as a youth many years before Prophethood, shun superstitious practices and keep away from drinking alcohol, eating meat slaughtered on stone altars or attending idolatrous festivals. By the time he reached adulthood Muhammad was thought of as the most reliable and trustworthy member of the Meccan community. Even those who concerned themselves with petty tribal squabbles acknowledged Muhammad’s honesty and integrity.

            Muhammad’s virtues and good moral character was established from a young age, and God continued to support and guide him. When he was 40 years old Muhammad was given the means to change the world, the means to benefit the whole of humanity


            THE SEAL OF ALL THE PROPHETS MUHAMMAD PBUH - Muhammad Abdul Jabbar
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            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blxHYZfX78k

            The greatest man to ever walk the earth - YouTube


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaClr9qEOAI
            خبير عربي مزيف يدّعي أن القرآن باللغة السيريانية وليس بالعربية فتم فضح جهله
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w21uRPLSKIM


            1_2 مسلم يعلم صه.يونياً - عدنان رشيد في حوار مع جوزيف
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amH2l1S41Ow

            2_2 مسلم يعلم صه.يونياً - عدنان رشيد في حوار مع جوزيف
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgGj0SKVUHI

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            • #51

              صدمت! شيخ أردني وحاخامات يهود في مقابلة ممتعة - ركن المتحدثين

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtLQms9SK0A

              العشوائية أم المصمم الذكي؟ - حمزة وعباس في حوار مع ملحد
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idLmVJAaywo


              الله أكبر!! سيدة إنجليزية تنطق بالشهادة بعد أن اكتشفت أنها مسلمة ولا تعرف

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqiIhht6cwU

              الكتاب المقدس يحمل الكتاب المقدس حتى يحمله من الكتاب المقدس
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgnNhUxv1lA


              التشويش على الدعوة - منصور في حوار مع ملحدة
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHa9Cs1m-Nk

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              • #52

                The miracles of Christ in his time, only
                God gave the miracles to Christ

                like healing people

                But now Christ does not heal nor save anyone

                Just personal experiences that don't matter


                Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’’

                Matthew 7.

                "And this is life eternal, that they might know THEE, the ONLY true God and Jesus Christ whom THOU hast sent", I HEARD, YOU are the ONLY TRUE God and I am HIS messenger!!! THIS was the mission of Jesus on this earth, to call HIS people to the worship of the ONLY true God and to show HIS people that THEIR God sent him with wonders, signs and miracles to prove that he was indeed sent as a messenger TO them!!! This has been the way of the Creator, to send MEN with signs and wonders as their bona fides, to prove who they are, so that the people believe!



                see here
                P1 - I Can Heal You! Hashim & Healing Christian | Speakers Corner | Hyde Park
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRaZT0eIj0Y

                P2 - I Can Heal You! Hashim & Healing Christian | Speakers Corner | Hyde Park

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojtBurhmHnE

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                • #53

                  Does John 14:6 prove divinity of Christ? Jesus answered, I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him


                  The verse states that Jesus was the "WAY".What else would we expect a prophet of God to say except "I am the 'way' to God's mercy"? That is his job. That is what a prophet does. It is why God chose him in the first place; in order to guide to the mercy of God.So John 14 verse 6 doesnot prove divinity of Christ.

                  Jesus in John 17:3 is Clearly addressing the Father (singular) as THE only true God and not even implying that he is part of the makeup of this one true God.


                  Hence -> this now is the eternal life, that they should know YOU -> (singular) (Father) the ONLY -> true God (singular) AND (another) Jesus Christ.

                  Christ, peace be upon him, the prophet of God




                  Why Jesus said: I am the way and the truth and the life

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdt9FDi6DGw




                  يهودي عراقي يدعي أن الإله من أمره بقتل الأطفال ولا مشكلة في ذلك - الجزء الأول
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yCR83uYeYo

                  يهودي عراقي يدعي أن الإله من أمره بقتل الأطفال ولا مشكلة في ذلك - الجزء الثاني
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fErpXBPA8qs

                  1_2 سفك الدماء يكفر الخطايا - هاشم في حوار مع مسيحي تائه
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G6TCcxef5U

                  2_2 سفك الدماء يكفر الخطايا - هاشم في حوار مع مسيحي تائه

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_HWCKhqCmU

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                  • #54
                    John 11:25-26:
                    [Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?]


                    There is a big difference between the word “resurrection” and the word “resurrector”. Jesus (peace be upon him) is clearly explaining to us that the one who believes in his words which are from God, he shall never die; meaning his soul will live in bliss forever when he is resurrected by God, the Resurrector, the only One that can raise the dead from their graves and bring them back to life on the Day of Resurrection.

                    So, resurrection is the act of resurrecting while resurrector is the one who resurrects people. Obviously only God Himself is worthy of this attribute and none of His creation; not even the most loved prophets to Him.


                    According to the Free Online Dictionary:
                    Resurrection – The act of rising from the dead or returning to life.
                    Resurrector – Noun of the verb resurrect – To bring back to life; raise from the dead. This means the one who brings back to life.



                    While we know Jesus brought the dead back to life as a miracle, we also know that his was only by permission of Allah. All prophets came with miracle to prove to their people that they were true prophet of God.


                    Allah says in the Quran:


                    {And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], ‘Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah . And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead – by permission of Allah. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers.} (Quran 3:49) [emphasis added]


                    Jesus performed miracles that he only achieved as a proof to his people of his prophethood and only by the permission of God, not because he is God himself.

                    22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.

                    Acts 2:22





                    شاب سيخي يبحث عن الحق في حوار جميل مع شمسي

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd_AR9D7Blw



                    الكتاب المقدس العبقري الذي تحدث عن زومبي قبل الفين عام


                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4kri9NWR5I

                    قسيس من المكسسيك آتى خصيص لمناظرة مسلم فماذا فعل ؟

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUKTgpJw2MQ&t=629s





                    مسيحي يدعي أن سيدنا محمد سجد للأصنام فتم تثقيفه بواسطة محمد حجاب

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1fWCJpEFRI



                    لماذا الثالوث ليس بسيطاً كالتوحيد؟ - حوار هاشم مع
                    مسيحي متحمس

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ptSLbtpbk

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                    • #55

                      16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.
                      John 10:16

                      the fact that Jesus was speaking to a Jewish audience.His ministry was confined to the sheep of Israel.



                      7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the adoor of the sheep. 8 All that ever came before me aare thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
                      John 10:7

                      Moreover, if the thieves and robbers included earlier prophets, then surely Jesus would be speaking ill of Moses, Abraham and David and that just wouldn't make sense.



                      It's more likely that Jesus was talking about contemporaries. Jesus wasn't the only "teacher" or miracle-working Jew around. There were others. He could have been calling these other teachers and miracle-workers "thieves and robbers."

                      If Jesus' audience were Jews, he may have been talking about non-Jews/Gentiles. must acknowledge that there is one God and turn away from idolatry. Therefore, one way is to become a Muslim.

                      The difference between Islam and Christianity is that Islam absolutely forbids paganism while Christianity permits "paganism" . Islam is strict. Christianity is liberal and lenient.

                      Christianity now opposes the teachings of Jesus, the previous prophets, and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon them
                      It is permissible in Christianity to drink wine, usury, fornication, gambling and drugs



                      It is clear that the sect of Christianity who believed Jesus to be a human Prophet and nothing more, and Father is only God were following the true teachings of Jesus. This is because their concept of God is the same as that which was taught by the Prophets in the Old Testament.

                      Islam is not just another religion. It is the same message preached by Moses, Jesus and Abraham. Islam literally means ‘submission to God’ and it teaches us to have a direct relationship with God. It reminds us that since God created us, no one should be worshipped except God alone. It also teaches that God is nothing like a human being or like anything that we can imagine. The concept of God is summarized in the Quran as:

                      “Say, He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He does not give birth, nor was He born, and there is nothing like Him.” (Quran 112:1-4)[4]

                      Becoming a Muslim is not turning your back to Jesus. Rather it’s going back to the original teachings of Jesus and obeying him.



                      لماذا اعتنق ثلاثة مسيحيين كوريين الإسلام؟
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOR5UyBwq8Y&t=3s
                      متحدث جديد يفاجئ الجميع بأسلوبه الهادئ وبلاغته في ركن الخطباء
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NfPIl_I528

                      شاب مسيحي يتعجب من اعتناق حمزة الإسلام وليس المسيحية فجاءه الرد

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIn3-XX3IEI&t=54s
                      ملحد يضحك علي ملحد آخر في منتصف الحوار_ انقلبت الآية Speaker's corner
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp1wEP0Ha1A

                      2_2 لا تهمني الحقيقة - هاشم في حوار مع المهرج جاي سي
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NRgZXauVpc

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by macoooo View Post
                        16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.
                        John 10:16
                        the fact that Jesus was speaking to a Jewish audience.His ministry was confined to the sheep of Israel.
                        Beginning in chapter 9 of John, we find Jesus talking with the Pharisees after He healed a man who was born blind. He compares the man’s simple faith with the unbelief of the Pharisees and condemns them for their willful spiritual blindness. He begins by denouncing the false shepherds of Israel—the blind, self-appointed leaders who drew the people away from the true knowledge and kingdom of their Messiah. Then in chapter 10, He explains at great length the nature of true sheep, those who follow the Good Shepherd, sent and appointed by God. True sheep are those who listen to the voice of the Shepherd and follow Him and know Him . He can only be speaking here of the true sheep of Israel because, up to that point, His ministry was confined to the sheep of Israel.
                        However, In verse 16, Jesus refers to the “other sheep,” and those can only be sheep that are outside of Israel, in other words, Gentiles. But the Gentiles who would follow Him are no less sheep than the true sheep of Israel. In fact, Jesus makes it clear that the Gentile sheep would also hear His voice and follow Him, and, eventually, there would be only one flock and one Shepherd. This is the mystery of the universal body of Christ.
                        7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the adoor of the sheep. 8 All that ever came before me aare thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
                        John 10:7
                        Moreover, if the thieves and robbers included earlier prophets, then surely Jesus would be speaking ill of Moses, Abraham and David and that just wouldn't make sense.
                        Seen in context, which you are ignoring. Jesus is telling us that He is not only the shepherd of the sheep, but also the door of the sheep. In doing so, He is vividly contrasting Himself with that of the religious leaders of His time whom He describes as “thieves and robbers”. Religious leaders, NOT OT prophets. When Jesus says, “I am the door,” He is reiterating the fact that only through Him is salvation possible. Jesus makes it clear that any religious leader who offers salvation other than the teachings of Christ is a “thief” and a “robber.”
                        It's more likely that Jesus was talking about contemporaries. Jesus wasn't the only "teacher" or miracle-working Jew around. There were others. He could have been calling these other teachers and miracle-workers "thieves and robbers."
                        Who were these other miracle workers? You are correct in as much Jesus was not referring to the OT prophets as thieves and robbers. Which had you applied and understood context you would have known.
                        If Jesus' audience were Jews, he may have been talking about non-Jews/Gentiles. must acknowledge that there is one God and turn away from idolatry. Therefore, one way is to become a Muslim.
                        He was referring to the gentiles as the other sheep. One way to turn from idolatry is to become a Muslim, or you can follow the teachings of The Christ. Same path different route.
                        The difference between Islam and Christianity is that Islam absolutely forbids paganism while Christianity permits "paganism" . Islam is strict. Christianity is liberal and lenient.
                        Thats a nonsense. Christianity does not permit paganism.
                        Christianity now opposes the teachings of Jesus, the previous prophets, and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon them
                        It is permissible in Christianity to drink wine, usury, fornication, gambling and drugs
                        Also a nonsense. No where did God or Jesus forbid the drinking of alcohol in the Bible scriptures. The first recorded miracle of Jesus was turning the water to wine at the wedding in Canaan. Alcohol is not forbidden, drunkenness is. Usury, fornication, gambling and drugs considered sinful so are forbidden. Much like some things forbidden in Islam Muslims still do it anyway. Because as humans they are prone to sin.
                        It is clear that the sect of Christianity who believed Jesus to be a human Prophet and nothing more, and Father is only God were following the true teachings of Jesus. This is because their concept of God is the same as that which was taught by the Prophets in the Old Testament.
                        What sect? The concept of God in the OT and NT is the same if you bother to read the scriptures.
                        Islam is not just another religion. It is the same message preached by Moses, Jesus and Abraham. Islam literally means ‘submission to God’ and it teaches us to have a direct relationship with God. It reminds us that since God created us, no one should be worshipped except God alone. It also teaches that God is nothing like a human being or like anything that we can imagine. The concept of God is summarized in the Quran as:
                        “Say, He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He does not give birth, nor was He born, and there is nothing like Him.” (Quran 112:1-4)[4]
                        Becoming a Muslim is not turning your back to Jesus. Rather it’s going back to the original teachings of Jesus and obeying him.
                        Islam may have the same message of the One true God and worship God alone. But that no difference to what came before as the Jews and Christian’s worship God as one.
                        Say, He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He does not give birth, nor was He born, and there is nothing like Him.” (Quran 112:1-4)[4]
                        do you say this is the actual word verbatim of God? Do you honestly feel that there was a need for God to clarify, the until the time of the Qurans revelation that which was obvious that - He does not give birth, nor was he born and there is nothing like him?


                        لماذا اعتنق ثلاثة مسيحيين كوريين الإسلام؟
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOR5UyBwq8Y&t=3s
                        متحدث جديد يفاجئ الجميع بأسلوبه الهادئ وبلاغته في ركن الخطباء
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NfPIl_I528
                        شاب مسيحي يتعجب من اعتناق حمزة الإسلام وليس المسيحية فجاءه الرد
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIn3-XX3IEI&t=54s
                        ملحد يضحك علي ملحد آخر في منتصف الحوار_ انقلبت الآية Speaker's corner
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp1wEP0Ha1A
                        2_2 لا تهمني الحقيقة - هاشم في حوار مع المهرج جاي سي
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NRgZXauVpc[/QUOTE]

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                          Then there is a fact that many of those affiliated with Christ, peace be upon him, overlook, which is that the Christian beliefs inspired by the New Testament meet radically with the old pagan beliefs.

                          The Trinity, the Incarnation, eternal sin, atonement with salvation, crucifixion, and redemption, the Nicene Creed, the Lord’s Supper (Holy Supper) and baptisms, and ecclesiastical sacraments...

                          Christians agree with the pagan nations in the history of celebrating the birth of Christ, peace be upon him.

                          Dani Vera said: “The worship of the cross is of pagan origin, as they used the cross in magic before Christianity, and these ideas impressed the pagan emperors to support the worshipers of the Trinity.”

                          God sent the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, to correct the previous books and to worship the one God (the Father) only, and that Jesus is the prophet of God, and this is his true nature like the rest of the prophets

                          The Early Christians

                          This is the sect that considers Christ a prophet of God


                          But there still exists today an important and powerful sect among the famous Christian denominations; It is the sect of "Unitarians", and it has become a phenomenon today in the United States, and the saying of Christian Unitarians is summed up in: "There is no god but Allah - Christ is the Messenger of God

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                          22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’



                          To whom does Jesus say this phrase to the Jews or to the Muslims?? Or for the Christians who say that we cast out demons in the name of God?

                          they are neither Muslims nor Jews, because they do not consider Christ a God

                          These are the miracle workers whom Christ will expel
                          Of course,
                          the Christians who say that we cast out demons in the name of God



                          المسيح يرفض النصارى يوم القيامة ...! هاشم في حوار مع سيدة مسيحية - ركن المتحدثين - (هايد بارك - لندن)
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5abJ2w3TEr4



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                          Christ was sent to the lost sheep of the children of Israel only and not to all nations, so he only talks about his corrupt contemporaries who consider him a god or the son of God
                          And they cast out demons in his name

                          Previous prophets were sent to a particular group of people and their message was supposed to be followed for a particular time period. Since previous revelations were time-bound, God did not preserve them Himself.

                          the Quran cannot be compared with the previous Scriptures. The Quran is unique in many aspects. It is the final revelation to mankind. Previous scriptures were sent to their respective people only.
                          The Quran is universal.

                          So God promised to protect the Quran

                          God says in the Qur’an
                          (9) Indeed, it is We who sent down the message [i.e., the Qur’ān], and indeed, We will be its guardian.

                          And the last message to humanity




                          Matthew 28

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                          Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in [1] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

                          Matthew 28:19

                          fake text
                          It does not exist in ancient Greek manuscripts before the 16th century
                          Consequently, this text has been omitted from most recent translations and editions in most languages of the world.




                          Second: We find that all the apostles and disciples of Christ, including Peter, the beloved of Christ...and Paul, who claimed without proof to be the messenger of Christ to the Gentiles...as well as the authors of the Gospel and all their testimonies... We see that they were not all baptized in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.


                          Did they violate the teachings of Christ or did they ignore it?






                          He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

                          Matthew 15:24 ►

                          Jesus' words are crucial in this text because as God's messenger, his mission is limited to the lost sheep of the people of Israel.


                          The teachings of Christ are the same as the teachings of the ancient prophets, and the teachings of Islam are all the same But the Jews and Christians distorted the message, so God sent the Qur’an to the Prophet Muhammad to correct the previous books



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                          Did Jesus say everything John says he said?

                          Consider the following sayings of Jesus found in John's Gospel alone:

                          John 14:9: "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father."

                          John 6:35: "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life."

                          John 8:12: "I am the light of the world."

                          John 8:58: "Before Abraham was, I am."

                          John 10:7: "I am the door of the sheep."

                          John 11 :25: "I am the resurrection, and the life."

                          John 14:6: "I am the way, the truth, and the life."

                          John 15: 1 "I am the true vine."


                          Christian scholars tell us that if Jesus had made all these fantastic claims about himself, the first three gospels would surely have recorded them. Mark was written around 70 CE, followed by Matthew and Luke somewhere between 80-90 CE John, written around 100 CE, was the last of the four canonized gospels. The Christian scholar James Dunn writes in his book The Evidence for Jesus: "If they were part of the original words of Jesus himself, how could it be that only John picked them up and none of the others? Call it scholarly skepticism ifyou like, but I find it almost incredible that such sayings should have been neglected had they been known as a feature of Jesus'teaching. If the 'I am' had been part of the original tradition, it is very hard indeed to explain why none ofthe other three evangelists made use of them." (p. 3 6)

                          Similarly, the New American Bible tells us in its introduction, under the heading How to Read Your Bible:

                          "It is difficult to know whether the words or sayings attributed to Jesus are written exactly as he spoke them....The Church was so firmly convinced that ... Jesus ... taught through her, that she expressed her teaching in the form of Jesus' sayings." (St. Joseph Medium Size Edition, p.23)

                          What we have in John, then is what people were saying about Jesus at the time John was written (about 70 years after Jesus was raised up). The writer of John simply expressed those ideas as if Jesus had said them. Rev.James Dunn says further in his book that, almost certainly,the writer of the fourth gospel "was not concerned with the sort of questions which trouble some Christians today Did Jesus actually say this? Did he use these precise words? and so on." (Fhe Evidence/or Jesus, p. 43)

                          Scholars have concluded that this gospel was originally written in a simple fonn. But this gospel was later on, as the New Jerusalem Bible says, "amplified and developed" in several stages during the second half of the first century." (p. 1742)

                          It says further: "It is today freely accepted that the fourth Gospel underwent a complex development before it reached its final form." (p. 1742)

                          On a previous page, the same Bible says: "It would seem that we have only the end-stage of a slow process that has brought together not only component parts of different ages, but also corrections, additions and sometimes even more than one revision of the same discourse." (p. 1739

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                          Even if some Muslims contradict the teachings of the Qur'an
                          This does not mean that the Qur'an not forbids such actions

                          but

                          in some parts of the Bible, alcohol, adultery and usury are allowed
                          Christians follow the doubtful verses of this book, violating the true teachings of Christ




                          Do not believe the Bible verses that aim to spread corruption by unknown writers whose goal is to destroy the message of the prophets and the message of the Prophet Jesus, peace be upon them

                          We all know that alcohol is bad for health, and spoils the mind and liver, even if a little alcohol in each period does not guarantee the safety of your body
                          You will get addicted to alcohol
                          You will kill someone with your car.

                          Do you believe that one of the prophets encourages corruption in life?

                          The correct verses that forbid wine in the Bible are clear, so why leave them and go to the questionable verses?


                          The Bible, as I said, is distorted when it describes the prophets and Christ drinking wine and behaving without their minds. This is a mistake.
                          Because the prophets communicate the word of God to the people, so would God send a drunken prophet who does not know what to say?
                          Muslims respect the prophets and defend their honor and dignity, especially the Prophet Christ,

                          The prophets are innocent of spreading corruption on earth because they are the most honorable people and God's messengers on earth



                          You prefer and believe the parts of the Bible that say Jesus drank corrupting wine both in the Passover Feast and the Last Supper, and you believe the people who describe him as a drunkard

                          That's your business

                          The Qur’an is the final revelation that corrects the previous books and clarifies the correct parts in them that suit the interests of the people

                          The Qur’an forbids drinking alcohol, fornication, usury, gambling, drugs, and forbidden relationships, and calls for the worship of the One God, not idolatry or human worship.

                          Islam protects humanity from dangers that modern systems and other religions have failed to treat


                          Islam succeeded in solving these problems. Once a person embraces Islam, he refrains from these things that harm him and harm society

                          Therefore, Islam is worth studying now



                          see here

                          Alcohol and Pork prohibited in the Qur'an and the Bible - by Dr. Zakir Naik

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV2siRpWPmg




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                          The concept of God in the Old Testament is not the same as the concept of God in the New Testament


                          The Prophets of the Old Testament such as Abraham, Noah and Jonah never preached that God is part of a Trinity, and did not believe in Jesus as their saviour. Their message was simple: there is one God and He alone deserves your worship. It doesn’t make sense that God sent Prophets for thousands of years with the same essential message, and then all of a sudden he says he is in a Trinity and that you must believe in Jesus to be saved.

                          The truth is that Jesus preached the same message that the Prophets in the Old Testament preached. There is a passage in the Bible which really emphasizes his core message. A man came to Jesus and asked “Which is the first commandment of all?”Jesus answered, “The first of all the commandments is Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.’’[Mark 12:28-29]. So the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said ‘I am God, worship me’, but he didn’t. He merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One.

                          Some people claim that Jesus came to die for the sins of the world. But consider the following statement of Jesus: This is eternal life: to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you sent. I have glorified you on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do.[John 17:3-4].

                          Also Jesus said “salvation is of the Jews” [John 4:22]. So according to this we don’t need to believe in the Trinity or that Jesus died for our sins to attain salvation since the Jews don’t have these beliefs.





                          The second descent of Christ is not an advantage over the prophets, but an assignment from God to Christ
                          To tell the people who said about him that he is a god or the son of God
                          He is not a god but only a prophet of God
                          and Islam is the religion of all the prophets


                          he will descend on earth before the Last Day. He will kill the antichrist , break the cross, and rule according to the Islamic Shariah, the Shariah of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him



                          Why is it stressed that Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) is the LAST PROPHET

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9ZPXRBiqgs


                          If Mohammed was the last Prophet, why will Jesus return? - Q&A - Abdur-Raheem Green
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOOqb2wXgPw



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                          do you say this is the actual word verbatim of God? Do you honestly feel that there was a need for God to clarify, the until the time of the Qurans revelation that which was obvious that - He does not give birth, nor was he born and there is nothing like him?






                          Certainly, God made this clear to all the prophets, from Adam to the last Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him

                          But
                          The concept of God has changed among Jews and Christians



                          Christians claim that in the birth of Jesus, there occurred the miracle of the incarnation of God in the form of a human being. To say that God became truly a human being invites a number of questions. Let us ask the following about the man-God Jesus. What happened to his foreskin after his circumcision (Luke 2:21)?

                          Did it ascend to heaven, or did it decompose as with any human piece of flesh? During his lifetime what happened to his hair, nails, and blood shed from wounds? Did the cells of his body die as in ordinary human beings? If his body did not function in a truly human way, he could not be truly human as well as truly God. Yet, if his body functioned exactly in a human way, this would nullify any claim to divinity. It would be impossible for any part of God, even if incarnate, to decompose in any way and still be considered God. The everlasting, one God, in whole or in part, does not die, disintegrate, or decompose: ‘For I the Lord do not change.’ (Malachi 3:6)

                          Did Jesus’ flesh dwell in safety after his death?
                          Unless Jesus’ body never underwent ‘decay’ during his lifetime he could not be God, but if it did not undergo ‘decay’ then he was not truly human.




                          Yes, God is capable of everything, but God does not do what is not befitting his greatness

                          His creation is not allowed to kill him
                          He does not allow himself to be born from the vagina of a woman
                          And he does not turn into a human being who is an infant who is fed by his mother
                          Who controls the universe at this time?
                          Because God does not change, as the Bible says


                          God does not have an image or a statue or a likeness, so Christ is not like God because this is against the commandments


                          But God does not turn into a human being

                          God is not human, that he should lie,
                          not a human being, that he should change his mind. 23:19

                          13 Bible Verses-God Never Changes …






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                          Concept of God in Judaism

                          II) The notion of God in Judaism:

                          (i) The following verse from the book of Deuteronomy contains an exhortation from Moses (PSL)

                          "Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adna Ikhad"

                          It is a quote in Hebrew which means:
                          "Hear, Israel: the Lord our God is one Lord"
                          [The Bible, Deuteronomy 6: 4]

                          The following verses are taken from the Book of Isaiah:

                          (ii) "I, I am the Lord, and outside me there is none who saves. [The Bible, Isaiah 43:11]

                          (iii) "I am the Lord, and there is no other, there is no other God than me. [The Bible, Isaiah 45: 5]

                          (iv) "I am God, and there is no other, I am God, and no one is like Me. [The Bible, Isaiah 46: 9]

                          (v) Judaism condemns the worship of idols in the following verses:
                          "" You will not have other gods before me ".
                          "You shall not make yourself a cut image, nor any likeness of what is in the heavens above, and what is on the earth below, and what is in the waters below the earth: "
                          "You shall not bow down to them, nor serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God." [The Bible, Exodus 20: 3-5]



                          In Judaism too, we find the same thread of monotheism, which is seen in other religions.

                          But
                          The Jews distorted the concept of God as Christians did

                          God , Jehovah, and he is not an infallible God, but errs and revolts, and falls into remorse, and he commands theft, and he is cruel, fanatic, and destructive to his people, he is the God of Israel only, and he is thus an enemy of others, and they claim that he walks before a group of the children of Israel In a column of clouds.



                          is belief enough 1 من هو إلهك ؟


                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpogot-ErDg

                          is belief enough 2 من هو إلهك ؟
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRhtIXCeM3Y
                          is belief enough 3 من هو إلهك ؟
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA4zwntgJIg









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                          It was necessary for the existence of the Qur’an to correct the concept of God in the previous books





                          “Say, He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He does not give birth, nor was He born, and there is nothing like Him.” (Quran 112:1-4)[4]

                          Who is God in islam?



                          The Most Concise Definition of God:

                          The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses of Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur’an:

                          "Say: He is Allah,
                          The One and Only.
                          "Allah, the Eternal, Absolute.
                          "He begets not, nor is He begotten.
                          And there is none like unto Him."
                          [Al-Qur’an 112:1-4]
                          God does not become a human being:

                          God does not take human form:



                          Some may argue that God does not become a human being but only takes a human form. If God only takes a human form but does not become a human being, He should not possess any human qualities. We know that all the ‘God-men’, have human qualities and failings. They have all the human needs such as the need to eat, sleep, etc.

                          The worship of God in human form is therefore a logical fallacy and should be abhorred in all its forms and manifestations.

                          That is the reason why the Qur’an speaks against all forms of anthropomorphism. The Glorious Qur’an says in the following verse:

                          "There is nothing whatever like unto Him."
                          [Al-Qur’an 42:11]
                          Concept of God in Islam - Dr Zakir Naik
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSgyxN-4v4o
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