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    Salam Alaikom brothers and sisters ,

    i really need to know the Islamic rule on this,
    as far as i have known if you have a half sister from your father or mother side, their kids (your half sisters or half brothers) are considerd your family !
    but few days back someone told me that according Islam , only the kids from your father side are considerd as your half brothers and half sisters !
    And the kids from your mother side are not considerd to be anything to you ???


    so is that true ?

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    Re: half sister or half brother by mother side

    Originally posted by aquestioner.. View Post
    Salam Alaikom brothers and sisters ,

    i really need to know the Islamic rule on this,
    as far as i have known if you have a half sister from your father or mother side, their kids (your half sisters or half brothers) are considerd your family !
    but few days back someone told me that according Islam , only the kids from your father side are considerd as your half brothers and half sisters !
    And the kids from your mother side are not considerd to be anything to you ???


    so is that true ?
    lol that's the most stupidest claim I've ever heard! Whoever says that knows nothing. They are considered your mahram and your half-bro/sis from either your mom or your dad. There isn't a difference.

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      #3
      Re: half sister or half brother by mother side

      :wswrwb:

      your half siblings with whom you have the same mother are your siblings just as the siblings from one father but different mothers are siblings.

      If by family you mean who you are ascribed to or which family you belong to then clearly you belong to your father's family, and your siblings with a different family belong to their fathers family. Your lineage is different but your status as siblings is still there.
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        #4
        Re: half sister or half brother by mother side

        Wa'alaykumus salaam,

        No, that is incorrect. Anyone who has been born from either your mother's or father's genes is your half brother/sister; by extension, their children are your family.

        It only gets complicated when we consider inheritance laws, but that is beyond me and most Muslims to explain - if this is where your original question arose from, then it's best you get in contact with a scholar.
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          #5
          Re: half sister or half brother by mother side

          Yes they are considered family.
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          ~Ibn Al-Jawzee

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            #6
            Re: half sister or half brother by mother side

            Originally posted by Soliloquy View Post
            Wa'alaykumus salaam,

            No, that is incorrect. Anyone who has been born from either your mother's or father's genes is your half brother/sister; by extension, their children are your family.

            It only gets complicated when we consider inheritance laws, but that is beyond me and most Muslims to explain - if this is where your original question arose from, then it's best you get in contact with a scholar.

            i want to thank everyone who answered my question !

            i dont care about inheritance ! i just want to be sure if they are also considerd our family !
            so we can call them brothers and sisters? we can spend time at their house ? we can go out with them ?
            i have always been told that they are considerd our strangers (if they are by mother side)
            w

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              Re: half sister or half brother by mother side

              Originally posted by ofiedi View Post
              lol that's the most stupidest claim I've ever heard! Whoever says that knows nothing. They are considered your mahram and your half-bro/sis from either your mom or your dad. There isn't a difference.

              thank you for the answer ! i have always been told that they are considerd strangers ! and few days back i asked a person in the Mosque and he told me too that they are considerd strangers !

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                #8
                Re: half sister or half brother by mother side

                does this count too if they have other relgion ??

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                  #9
                  Re: half sister or half brother by mother side

                  Originally posted by aquestioner.... View Post
                  does this count too if they have other relgion ??
                  WOW. You need to be careful who you are asking!!! They are NOT strangers, they are just like your brother sister. Your MAHRAMS. Whoever is giving you such advice is playing with fire..Is this for marriage? Because if so it is considered INCEST. Subhanallah. Do NOT believe everything you hear from people even though they are in the "mosque!!!"

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                    #10
                    Re: half sister or half brother by mother side

                    Originally posted by aquestioner.... View Post
                    does this count too if they have other relgion ??
                    Family relationships, i.e. who is mahram, non-mahram, does not change if the family members are non-Muslim. Your half sister is your half sister, whether she's on your mum's or your dad's side, and it's forbidden for you to marry her, therefore she's a mahram to you whether she's Muslim or not.




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                      #11
                      Re: half sister or half brother by mother side

                      Half brothers and half sisters are NOT strangers. I would avoid that mosque if the imam is giving such unIslamic advice that goes completely against what is written in the Quran. 'Half' brothers and sisters, whether they share the same mother as you or the same father as you, they are still your mahram (kin blood relatives). You are permitted to see them without hijab or spend time alone with them whereas you're not permitted to do that with non mahrams (even if the non mahrams are cousins or in laws [father in laws and mother in laws are the exception to this rule]).

                      Put it this way, you are permitted to marry non mahrams of the opposite gender and that is why you're considered as 'strangers' to them so have to avoid establishing relationships with non mahrams of the opposite gender. Obviously a half sibling is not a stranger and obviously it is haraam for you to marry a half sibling. There is an ayah in the Quran which defines who are the people considered as mahram or non mahram by stating which relatives are haraam for men to marry (ie sisters, half sisters, paternal aunts, maternal aunts, grandparents and if as a baby you were breastfed by a particular woman then her children and other children she breastfed are also your mahrams). Hold on a sec I'll see if I can find that ayah for you *does a search*... ah alhamdullilah, this explains everything fairly well... and these rules listing who you treat as kin blood relatives (ie brothers, sisters, half siblings, aunts etc) are the same whether those kin relatives are Muslim or not they are still family:

                      http://nikah.com/marriage/prohibited...e_partners.asp

                      As others have said, there might be some differences (in half siblings compared to full siblings) in inheritance laws etc but there is no difference in terms of the relationship of treating them as brothers and sisters. One last point (correct me if I'm wrong)... step brothers and sisters are strangers to you- so if your parent's spouse has a child who is no blood relative of yours then that child is not your brother or sister (but is the brother or sister of your half sibling due to sharing a parent).
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                        Re: half sister or half brother by mother side

                        Originally posted by dhak1yya View Post
                        Family relationships, i.e. who is mahram, non-mahram, does not change if the family members are non-Muslim. Your half sister is your half sister, whether she's on your mum's or your dad's side, and it's forbidden for you to marry her, therefore she's a mahram to you whether she's Muslim or not.

                        Originally posted by oefied View Post
                        WOW. You need to be careful who you are asking!!! They are NOT strangers, they are just like your brother sister. Your MAHRAMS. Whoever is giving you such advice is playing with fire..Is this for marriage? Because if so it is considered INCEST. Subhanallah. Do NOT believe everything you hear from people even though they are in the "mosque!!!"
                        thank you for the answers ! this is not about marriage , its only about if we have right to stay in touch with them!
                        i am very thankful for your answers !
                        i dont know why i have been told the opposite !
                        once again thank you

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                          #13
                          Re: half sister or half brother by mother side

                          Yes, not only do you have the right to stay in touch with them, it's a major sin to break family ties so you actually have the duty to stay in touch with them, at least at a minimal level (i.e. once in a while contact is fine, so long as you don't break the contact entirely) so yes you must stay in contact with them, and have as much contact as you want, they're your mahram relatives. Also I agree with Neelu about avoiding getting advice from that imam if he's giving dodgy advice, maybe avoid the masjid too if you have a choice.




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                            #14
                            Re: half sister or half brother by mother side

                            i am sorry but i have 2 more questions !
                            1. do we need the permission of our parents ? what if one of the parents forbids us to speak/keep in touch with our half siblings ? do we have to obey the mother or father?

                            and
                            2.is it true that in islam the man in the house (father/brother) can forbid you to keep in touch with your mother or other family members ?

                            will i be cursed ? go to hell if i disobey ?

                            i am sorry for all this questions but i feel really bad and i dont trust anyone else anymore to ask such questions..

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                              #15
                              Re: half sister or half brother by mother side

                              Breaking family ties is haram, so a parent, brother or husband can't forbid you to see any of your siblings or other family members.

                              Regards obeying the leader of the household, there is no obedience in disobedience to Allah. If you cut yourself off from a family member (i.e. break ties) that would be a sin, and you should not obey someone if they're telling you to sin.

                              If this situation is going on in your family (as opposed to a hypothetical question), inshaAllah you should see an imam or scholar who will speak to your parents about the Islamic stance on this matter, and explain that they are doing wrong, and will also be able to advise you much better about the halal/haram in this situation inshaAllah. A fatwa site might be able to help.




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