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    Salams.

    I read somewhere that if you intentionally break your fast, or don't fast early you have to fast two consecutive months to make it up. I have calculated that since my shahadah I have intentionally missed 45 days of fasting. That adds up to 90 months to make up (2,700 days) which is nearly 8 years. Is this true? Do I really have to fast all that to make up my 45 days missed?

    #2
    Re: Intentionally not fasting

    salaams brother, inshaAllah someone will be able to give you evidence as to what you actually have to now fast. However I do know that you can't in reality 'make it up' based on the following hadith:
    Abu Huraira related that the Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him) said: If anyone omits his fast even for one day in Ramadan without a concession or without being ill, then if he were to fast for the rest of his life he could not make up for it (Bukhari).
    This is to show us the severity of missing a fast.

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      #3
      Surely you had a reason for not fasting?
      respect refugees

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        #4
        Re: Intentionally not fasting

        he was a new muslim and his iman wasnt that strong yet? is that understandable? you know how people take it in steps, first establishing prayer, then wearing hijab etc, i think he missed the fasts as he was still in that process

        Recipes for all the family :inlove:
        (and you thought I was a lazy feminazi which can't cook?)

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          #5
          Re: Intentionally not fasting

          i have also gone through same things.. i have not broken any fasts other than 1 or two very long ago.. but have skipped a lot of fasts... me too would like to hear about both cases.

          thanks

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            #6
            Re: Intentionally not fasting

            2/3 of that was when I didn't want to be Muslim anymore because it was too hard to pray and fast etc.

            1/3 was just because I didn't want to fast, no other reason. :(

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              #7
              Re: Intentionally not fasting

              Asalamu Alaikum,

              There might be a difference of opinion regarding this issue but the opinion that I am familiar with is that you have to repent. You are not required to fast for two months straight.

              This fatwa might help:
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              I am a young woman of 25 years of age. From the time I was young until I was 21 years old, I did not fast or pray because I was lazy. My parents advised me to fast and pray but I did not pay any attention to them. What do I have to do, knowing that that Allaah has guided me, and now I fast and I regret what is past?

              Praise be to Allaah.

              Repentance wipes out whatever came before. You have to regret what you did, be determined not to repeat it, be sincere in your worship, do lots of naafil acts of worship such as praying naafil prayers night and day and observing voluntary fasts, read Qur’aan and make du’aa’. Allaah accepts the repentance of His slaves and forgives their bad deeds.

              Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz
              Wallahu Aalim

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                #8
                Re: Intentionally not fasting

                Originally posted by Excuse_me View Post
                Asalamu Alaikum,

                There might be a difference of opinion regarding this issue but the opinion that I am familiar with is that you have to repent. You are not required to fast for two months straight.

                This fatwa might help:


                Wallahu Aalim
                Funny how they say if you intentionally not fast you can repent...but if a woman is pregnant and breastfeeding consecutively for 5 years, 10 years, she has to make them up. What a joke. This is the reason I'm so turned off from Fatwas and fatwa sites. Everyone gives their own thought and opinion whatever they feel like saying. Those who are guilty not fast sinning from being lazy, don't have to make it up, but women who are doing Jihad by being pregnant and breastfeeding, have to make up those 10 years? :rollseyes:

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                  Re: Intentionally not fasting

                  Originally posted by Msamem View Post
                  Funny how they say if you intentionally not fast you can repent...but if a woman is pregnant and breastfeeding consecutively for 5 years, 10 years, she has to make them up. What a joke. This is the reason I'm so turned off from Fatwas and fatwa sites. Everyone gives their own thought and opinion whatever they feel like saying. Those who are guilty not fast sinning from being lazy, don't have to make it up, but women who are doing Jihad by being pregnant and breastfeeding, have to make up those 10 years? :rollseyes:
                  Use common sense, who is in a worse position? One who intentionally missed the fasts or one who couldnt fast due to pregnancy? The womwn ahs the chance to make up the fast, why do you think fasting is a bad thing? Its a chance to gain back the reward.

                  This is why laypeople should not make their own fataawa

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                    #10
                    Re: Intentionally not fasting

                    I will make it up if required . . . it's just a little daunting to have to fast for 8 years for 45 days of not fasting . . .

                    I'll try to find a scholar to ask.

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                      #11
                      Re: Intentionally not fasting

                      Originally posted by kostageas View Post
                      . . .

                      I'll try to find a scholar to ask.
                      The above would advisable for such a question.

                      Grotbags
                      Some of The Best Dhikr

                      1. Quran: Ultimately, the best dhikr is reading the Quran.

                      Reward: You will be rewarded 10 rewards for every letter read. This prize basically illustrates the weight of the Quran in terms of where it should be in your life.

                      2. SubhanAllah or SubhanAllah wa bihamdihi (“I praise Allah (or All praise if to Allah) above all attributes that do not suit His Majesty.”)

                      Reward: A tree will be planted for you in Paradise. Nice! Start growing your own forest right now! Another hadith relates that whoever says this 100 times a day, his/her sins will be forgiven even if they were as much as the foam of the sea [Bukhari].

                      3. Alhamdulillah (“All praise is for Allah.”)

                      Reward: Your scales will be tipped on the Day of Judgment, full of rewards!

                      4. SubhanAllah wal hamdulillah, wa la ilahaillAllah wa Allahu akbar “I praise Allah (or All Praise if to Allah) above all attributes that do not suit His Majesty. All praise is for Allah. This is no deity worthy of worship besides Allah. Allah is Great.”

                      Reward: This combination of dhikr is the one most beloved by Allah, subhana wa ta’ala. When you say them, sins fall off of you like leaves off of trees.

                      5. La hawla wa la quwwata illa billah (“There is no power or might except (by) Allah.”)

                      Reward: You will enter through a special door in Paradise for those who oft use this remembrance.

                      6. SubhanAllah (x33), Alhamdulillah (x33), Allahu akbar (x34). Can be recited after salah and before you go to bed/sleep. (“I praise Allah (or All praise if to Allah) above all attributes that do not suit His Majesty. All praise is to Allah. Allah is Great.”)

                      Reward: We know that this dhikr is said after each salah, but when Fatima raḍyAllāhu 'anha (may Allāh be pleased with her) the daughter of the Prophet came to her father requesting a servant to help with the household, the Messenger of Allah ṣallallāhu 'alayhi wa sallam (peace and blessings of Allāh be upon him) told her to repeat the dhikr before her sleep and the results would be better than having a servant.

                      7. Astaghfirullah (“I seek Allah’s forgiveness.”)

                      Reward: You will get protection from Allah’s punishment. In Surah Nuh, ayah 10-12, Allah relates the story of Prophet Nuh and how he instructed his people to seek Allah’s forgiveness. If they would just say “astagfirullah,” Allah would sent them rain in abundance, and increase their wealth and children, and give them gardens and rivers in Paradise.

                      8. Ayahtul-Kursi [2:255].

                      Reward: When you recite this verse before you go to sleep, Allah sends a guardian to you and no shaytan will come to you until morning. Those who read this after each salah shall enter Paradise.

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                        #12
                        Re: Intentionally not fasting

                        Originally posted by Msamem View Post
                        Funny how they say if you intentionally not fast you can repent...but if a woman is pregnant and breastfeeding consecutively for 5 years, 10 years, she has to make them up. What a joke. This is the reason I'm so turned off from Fatwas and fatwa sites. Everyone gives their own thought and opinion whatever they feel like saying. Those who are guilty not fast sinning from being lazy, don't have to make it up, but women who are doing Jihad by being pregnant and breastfeeding, have to make up those 10 years? :rollseyes:
                        I agree with you. If this scholar was really a scholar then he should have some basis for his fatwa from the Holy Quran rather than saying that it is his own opinion. What good is an opinion if it is wrong? Its right because he is a scholar? I don't see why people fear these scholars as they should fear Allah. The classical scholars were guided but most of these modern ones don't post references for what they say. Proof is needed for something to be fact.

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                          #13
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                          Originally posted by Haseeb123 View Post
                          I agree with you. If this scholar was really a scholar then he should have some basis for his fatwa from the Holy Quran rather than saying that it is his own opinion. What good is an opinion if it is wrong? Its right because he is a scholar? I don't see why people fear these scholars as they should fear Allah. The classical scholars were guided but most of these modern ones don't post references for what they say. Proof is needed for something to be fact.
                          Asalamu Alaikum,

                          I dont believe he spoke from his desires/own opinion. He probably used this hadith as his proof:
                          Abu Huraira related that Rasulullah said: If anyone omits his fast even for one day in Ramadan without a concession or without being ill, then if he were to fast for the rest of his life he could not make up for it (Bukhari).
                          Lets try to not bash Scholars insha'Allah.

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                            Re: Intentionally not fasting

                            Originally posted by kostageas View Post
                            Salams.

                            I read somewhere that if you intentionally break your fast, or don't fast early you have to fast two consecutive months to make it up. I have calculated that since my shahadah I have intentionally missed 45 days of fasting. That adds up to 90 months to make up (2,700 days) which is nearly 8 years. Is this true? Do I really have to fast all that to make up my 45 days missed?
                            I shall ask and confirm from an `Aalim [scholar].

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                              Re: Intentionally not fasting

                              Originally posted by ImaMuslim View Post
                              Use common sense, who is in a worse position? One who intentionally missed the fasts or one who couldnt fast due to pregnancy? The womwn ahs the chance to make up the fast, why do you think fasting is a bad thing? Its a chance to gain back the reward.

                              This is why laypeople should not make their own fataawa
                              Bad thing? Because it's not in women's control. Being pregnant is almost equal to 1 year and you have to breastfeed for 2 years if you are able to. That takes out a total of 3 ramadans. Most women end up pregnant again and again. 3 years per child = 12 years for 4 children. You really think it's easy to make up 360 fasts? Plus the ramadan that is coming up after you've stopped having kids/bfeeding....

                              One who intentionally MISSED fasts should make them up of course! They are guilty of missing them. A woman is not guilty because she cannot fast in most cases. Use your head.

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