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    alsalam aleykom :)
    if you are over 40 years old, have a disabled child and other "normal" children. have much trouble with the arms (did two operations) and accidentally get pregnant. is it haram to have an abortion then? Thus, it is not dangerous that she will die if she has left the child. but will not go through a normal pregnancy for 9 months.
    She has problems with nearly all of her body. (always tired, her arms (wrist) is completely destroyed (according to doctors). has a disabled daughter (19 years old) to take care of).
    is it haram for her to do abortion?

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    his not a soldja well defintly not an upright muslim one, because a true man a true muslim man will quickly resole situation not hide behind excuse parents dont let me marry etc.... stop trying to justify your actions or blame shaytan...SHAYTAN IS NOT TO BE BLAMED its OURSELF! shaytan will be free from our sins because he never forced us did he?....its easy to fall into zina yes, but if you have commited it then run away from it to never do it again break all contact etc.... shessh just wait for the punishment of Allah unless u truly realise what you have done... this is fahisha evil curroption...

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    Originally posted by *IslamicGirl* View Post
    :start:

    :salams

    AMEEN sis

    I referred to post number 24 and post number 2 where she is having a go at other members.

    Sister, she is not the only unmarried pregnant woman in the world, there are others, there is one sister who a few weeks ago posted a similar story and i don't want that sister to ever feel negative, it is hard to try and encourage someone to keep their baby when they are unmarried and Muslim too

    i don't want that sister or any other to come this thread starter's posts for justifying an abortion and have doubts - so what if they can't give the baby a proper life? do poor people kill their children for fear of poverty, do we see babies being murdered in Africa

    Sins have a consequence- and if we can commit the sin and not ask for Tawbah then we deal with the consequence- this thread starter calls others 'imbecile' and 'insecure' when she should focus on herself

    do i regret writing my above post in that tone? no, absolutely not. The guy if he's a warrior would stand up and be responsible, instead she is justifying his lack of responsibility as well then laying on other posters, you know i am not a harsh person but sometimes we can't sugar coat things.

    in my opinion- Seeking repentance is instinctive in a Muslim, what we can ask from Allah we can't ask from posters on a forum. She knows she needs to repent and she knows she needs to marry this guy

    This sister's honour is my honour, is your honour- is every single Allah fearing man or woman's honour.

    This anon forum is read by many- :sub: there are confused sisters reading this forum, there are unmarried women pregnant reading this- when we offer advice it is universal in a way- :sub: i don't want a sister to read this thread and feel even more confused or any other sisters i do not know of.

    Keeping a baby when unmarried is one of the best decisions to make through all that confusion, mess and pain.

    :wswrwb:

    ur right sis..i mean i wasnt directly hvn a go at her bu she js flippd at me!! mayb i was harsh and killin a child rly got to me! i mean that baby is innocent..im actually sorry and askn for fogvness from 'tellmestr8' abou the post i replyed the first tym n da second 1.. im sorry if iv got u vexd! inshallah allah (swt) will find a path of ease for u!!

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  • baba
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    Originally posted by tellmestr8 View Post
    I am glad I came to this forum. I dont have any friends in real life so you guys are my friends.

    After reading what you all had to say and thinking in the mosque today, i said to myself "you idiot".

    i wont spill sugar from my mouth. i commited zina, have already had an abortion, and am unmarried to my guy.

    HOWEVER, the shaytaan deceived me. i am alive, so is my guy and we CAN STILL ASK FOR FORGIVENESS AND TRY AND CORRECT THINGS. THERE IS STILL A CHANCE, EVEN A SMALL ONE.


    no my guy wanted to marry me from day one, its his family that are against it they even refuse to meet or talk to my mother. he cannot force them to do what he wants, especially because he is not settled in life (no good job, career, degree education, or house) and thats even more reason for his parents to say not get married.

    my guy is a warrior and hes wanted to marry me since day one and he takes care of me in so many ways - even if i dont realise it half the time cos he is hardly with me.

    inshaAllah we are going to get married. he is going to move out, get a job and after that return to education. we need to correct things


    thank you all for the advice.
    I wouldn't say this for anyone, but it's a special case here - men, strictly speaking, do not need their family's permission to get married.

    If your parents are fine with it, then you two should just get married. He can fix the situation with his parents later; parents almost always come around in the end.

    If you've got a kid on the way, don't let anything delay you and get married immediately.

    Recognise that any reasons to delay are coming from the Shaytan, who does not want to let you repent and wants to cause maximum shame for you. You should get married and repent as Allah (SWT) forgives all sins, don't delay it as you do not know when death will come (accidents happen all the time).

    Don't worry about the "not settled in life" stuff. This country has an excellent social welfare system - all the working guys here are helping to support it via their taxes and national insurance. Don't let it go to waste and use the system - it will support you until your guy gets a job.

    Also, Allah (swt) will give rizq (sustenance) - many married people will tell you that they found their wealth increasing after getting married (things happened that they never thought would happen, they started getting more job opportunities, pay rises, etc).

    So don't let a worry about being "not settled in life" stop you.

    Also, the Qur'an expressly forbids for someone to kill a child based on the worry that you can't support it - because Allah will always provide. It is one of the worst sins. What will you say when you see this child on the Day of Judgement? And she asks, "you lived in a country with a social welfare system - yet you still killed me?"

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  • Saif-Uddin
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    Originally posted by tellmestr8 View Post
    i agree that abortion is haraam when the baby is fully formed

    but in the first few weeks how is it haraam? the baby is an egg, it feels no pain.

    seriously i am in a situation and i need to know if its haraam or not. iv had an abortion before but it was only a few weeks old, only a cluster of cells, so i was under the impression it was halal before the angel of life breathes life into the baby.
    Abortion is Haram period, the Only exception can be when the Life of the Mother is in danger, in which abortion may be permitted ...

    regards.

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  • *IslamicGirl*
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    :start:

    :salams

    Originally posted by dhakiyya View Post
    Islamic girl, please read all the thread starters posts, she's already said that we're right and she was being a fool and she's going to do sincere tawbah and not have an abortion. So having a go at her about that still isn't going to achieve anything. Instead give her advice about seeking tawbah and about how to go about marrying this brother inshaAllah. He has to make tawbah too, because he's just as guilty for what went on in the past, and he's got just as much right to realise the mistakes in the past and move on as the sister posting here has.

    Please remember this is an advice forum, praise Allah that the sister has taken the sincere advice offered her :) May Allah make it easy for this sister, and the brother, to get married and stay on the straight path and raise this child to be a pious and righteous Muslim AMEEN
    AMEEN sis

    I referred to post number 24 and post number 2 where she is having a go at other members.

    Sister, she is not the only unmarried pregnant woman in the world, there are others, there is one sister who a few weeks ago posted a similar story and i don't want that sister to ever feel negative, it is hard to try and encourage someone to keep their baby when they are unmarried and Muslim too

    i don't want that sister or any other to come this thread starter's posts for justifying an abortion and have doubts - so what if they can't give the baby a proper life? do poor people kill their children for fear of poverty, do we see babies being murdered in Africa

    Sins have a consequence- and if we can commit the sin and not ask for Tawbah then we deal with the consequence- this thread starter calls others 'imbecile' and 'insecure' when she should focus on herself

    do i regret writing my above post in that tone? no, absolutely not. The guy if he's a warrior would stand up and be responsible, instead she is justifying his lack of responsibility as well then laying on other posters, you know i am not a harsh person but sometimes we can't sugar coat things.

    in my opinion- Seeking repentance is instinctive in a Muslim, what we can ask from Allah we can't ask from posters on a forum. She knows she needs to repent and she knows she needs to marry this guy

    This sister's honour is my honour, is your honour- is every single Allah fearing man or woman's honour.

    This anon forum is read by many- :sub: there are confused sisters reading this forum, there are unmarried women pregnant reading this- when we offer advice it is universal in a way- :sub: i don't want a sister to read this thread and feel even more confused or any other sisters i do not know of.

    Keeping a baby when unmarried is one of the best decisions to make through all that confusion, mess and pain.

    :wswrwb:

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  • LastFriday
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    You've got a few more nights left of Ramadan. These few nights can turn out to be the most blessed for you. Make sujood to Allah (swt) and ask for forgiveness. Sincere forgiveness. Don't do it because were telling you. But try to understand that He (swt) isn't going to go away, He (swt) is ever watching! He knows what you've done and He knows whats in your heart and He (swt) is THE MOST forgiving. The story about the man from Musa (as) time. The man who sinned for 40 years!! and when AllaH (swt) asked Musa to tell this man to leave or there won't be any rain. When Musa (as) announced in a large crowd, the man began to cry and asked Allah (swt) to forgive him and to not reveal him, & it began to rain. Because AllaH (swt) forgave him! Because he repented sincerely right there, after being heedless for 40 years! Musa (as) later asked AllaH (swt) who this man was because no one left from the crowd, yet it began to rain! Allah (swt) told Musa that if He(swt) didn't reaveal the man & his sin for 40 years, why would He (swt) do it now? Sister, we don't know who you are and I'm sure MANY People don't know the sin that you have done. Ask Allah(swt) sincerely and everything will be ok. Ask for forgiveness and don't look back or GO back to that life style.

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  • dhak1yya
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    Islamic girl, please read all the thread starters posts, she's already said that we're right and she was being a fool and she's going to do sincere tawbah and not have an abortion. So having a go at her about that still isn't going to achieve anything. Instead give her advice about seeking tawbah and about how to go about marrying this brother inshaAllah. He has to make tawbah too, because he's just as guilty for what went on in the past, and he's got just as much right to realise the mistakes in the past and move on as the sister posting here has.

    Please remember this is an advice forum, praise Allah that the sister has taken the sincere advice offered her :) May Allah make it easy for this sister, and the brother, to get married and stay on the straight path and raise this child to be a pious and righteous Muslim AMEEN

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  • naila-k
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    Originally posted by sameena-k View Post
    Assalamu'alaikum,

    Instead of carrying on committing zina.... you both should come clean and then your families won't have a problem with getting you married off, because have given them no choice to oppose to. and about the fact that your family won't talk to you... would his family even take you in? forget that would you both get respect within the family after the whole generation knowing wot you two committed? i dnt think your 'guy' is soo much of a 'warrior' if he got you pregnant, knowing the consequences.all i can say sis..... i will make dua for you and inshallah you will get married to the brother and be able to raise your child.... dealing with what comes your way with ease.

    Allah swt only gives you what you can bear

    Walaikum'salaam
    come on sammy, u know people make mistakes, and it it is easy to get tempted, true some mess up harder than others but let him without sin throw the first stone and all that!

    Alhamdulillah there are so many sisters that start practicing at a young age so never have to deal with this problem, and many sisters that have families that raise them to have taqwa, but this is what happens when you dont.
    Also if your family have no islamic reason to prevent you from marriage to your choice of husband (race is not an Islamic reason) you can change your wali.
    As i understand it they've already told their families they want to get married and their families have said no.

    ALso what has respect in the family got to do with anything? |Should she not get married because she wont have respect within the family?
    SHould she not involve the family and go far away and get married amongst strangers in a mosque because of this?
    If you leave out the family now, the chances of them coming round are less.

    Many families say they wont talk to you then after a while inshallah come round.

    Everyone knows someone who has comitted Zina, probably some of you in your immediate family (bros, sis, dad). We all know this is wrong, but we also know because someone is deviant in one aspect of their behaviour, doesnt ake them deviant overall.

    We also know that whoever repents is forgiven by Allah, and this is the month of ramadhan with infinite mercy.

    Congrats on ur upcoming marriage anonymous1990, (i rekon u may have given away ur age with that!) Remember the child will come with its own rizk, and Allah will provide for you. Don't worry about money. Or others opinions. It is the opinion of Allah that matters and only he knows your struggle and what is in you rheart good and bad, so repent sincerely from your sins, and concentrate on bringing up your child.

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    My sister I pray that Allaah (swT) makes it easy for you both, Ameen.

    Ma'aSalaama

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  • *IslamicGirl*
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    :start:

    :salams

    Originally posted by tellmestr8 View Post
    nah he is a true warrior. hes kind, gentle and silently tougher than 99.9% of those so called 'men' out there. yes we committed zina, but we made a mistake, and at least his is man enough to admit it and try and sort it out, unlike the pathetic little boys out there. your comments make it sound like you dont want this to happen? your insecurity is shining sameena-k.
    lay off the sister, you get me?

    and tell your warrior to keep his pants zipped


    if he's a 'nice' man, he'll marry you, raise your child and stand up instead of hitting at it like a pair of jahil selfish kids

    have you no shame?

    i swear by Allah have you no shame?

    you kill your own child, then come on a public forum wanting justification for killing another

    Wallahi have you no shame?
    and you dare mock others when you decide to kill a baby or two

    :ahb: i'm finding it hard to breathe

    what is the difference between you and the soldier who goes to a house in iraq and kills a family in cold-blooded fashion?


    Originally posted by tellmestr8 View Post

    yes we will move out do dua for us inshaAllah, we will just have to take life as it comes, but inshaAllah I hope he finishes of his education because i know he can be an even greater man than he is now
    you do not deduce a man by the level of his education, a man becomes a man by following as much of the Sunnah of RasoolAllah Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him and his family.

    continue killing your children and you will suffer mental problems because these actions are so negative they mess one's entire brain, people get psychological problems and if you ever think these sort of actions resolve anything, they don't, they make it worse.

    i'm telling you as it is, don't pick a fight with me understand cuz i swear by Allah just don't. i don't want to fight with you but i'm telling you as it is, this isn't a rosy fairytale, :ahb: my heart trembles when i think you've killed one child and you're ready to do it again and for what?

    you think this guy will marry you and want you to be the mother of his children by doing stuff like this? do you want a two bit guy who doesn't care how many babies you kill as the father of your future children?


    this is the 'kind, gentle & silent' man you're talking about

    :sub: :(
    i feel like crying how could you do this? and what sort of man enabled you to kill his child?

    you will never find justification for killing a child in Islam and even normal people on ummah forum will & have told you this

    Fear Allah Fear Allah Fear Allah


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    when u knew that you wouldnt be able to get married and that both families are unhappy then why the heck did u carry on with him? lemme ges---U LUV HIM!!bul****!! let alone look after a bby, both of you seem u cant look after ur ownself then y the hell did you open ur legs!! shame on2 !! u desrv everyfn u get in lyf, dont punish ur bby for it! keep it girl..remeber wr gna di one day..nt stay forever..weve got our creator to answer to?? hus given the right to u to take away life??sis im beggin ere..jus plz dnt kill..ma eyes are flowin with tears and am sorry for being so angry at u but sis plz jus dnt kill that sweetheart insyd u! think about them peeps hu cant have kids?? ur that bbys mom..just think hunii..plz??

    may allah have mercy on u and the rst of the ummah and safeguard us from any fitnah!![/QUOTE]

    no, i wanted to marry him because i know there is nothing wrong with marrying him, it is the families who are wrong, to refuse on culture and race is BS. and yes i do love him and YES THERE CAN BE LOVE BEFORE MARRIAGE, especially with the intention of marriage. tell me ONE PLACE IN ISLAM THAT SAYS THERE IS NOT LOVE BEFORE MARRIAGE.

    a hadith says that our Prophet saw said "if 2 people are in love, there is no better thing for them than marriage".

    your speaking profound nonsense and how dare you talk to me like that you imbecile.

    and before you get overly emotional, read through the thread (all of it) properly before you start shedding tears.

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    [QUOTE=tellmestr8;2801994]did you not even read my last post? How can we support the child? we arent even married, and i dont have a wali that will let me get married so any so called nikkah will be invalid and we will be living in zina as we are now (i dont live with him). also our families will kick us out and will never accept the pregnancy. the guy isnt even educated or anything hes still in uni we cant even support ourselves let alone a baby. all 3 lives will be ruined, but especially the baby cos we will offer it a shi* life.

    when u knew that you wouldnt be able to get married and that both families are unhappy then why the heck did u carry on with him? lemme ges---U LUV HIM!!bul****!! let alone look after a bby, both of you seem u cant look after ur ownself then y the hell did you open ur legs!! shame on2 !! u desrv everyfn u get in lyf, dont punish ur bby for it! keep it girl..remeber wr gna di one day..nt stay forever..weve got our creator to answer to?? hus given the right to u to take away life??sis im beggin ere..jus plz dnt kill..ma eyes are flowin with tears and am sorry for being so angry at u but sis plz jus dnt kill that sweetheart insyd u! think about them peeps hu cant have kids?? ur that bbys mom..just think hunii..plz??

    may allah have mercy on u and the rst of the ummah and safeguard us from any fitnah!!

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    Originally posted by sameena-k View Post
    Assalamu'alaikum,

    Instead of carrying on committing zina.... you both should come clean and then your families won't have a problem with getting you married off, because have given them no choice to oppose to. and about the fact that your family won't talk to you... would his family even take you in? forget that would you both get respect within the family after the whole generation knowing wot you two committed? i dnt think your 'guy' is soo much of a 'warrior' if he got you pregnant, knowing the consequences.

    all i can say sis..... i will make dua for you and inshallah you will get married to the brother and be able to raise your child.... dealing with what comes your way with ease.

    Allah swt only gives you what you can bear

    Walaikum'salaam
    nah he is a true warrior. hes kind, gentle and silently tougher than 99.9% of those so called 'men' out there. yes we committed zina, but we made a mistake, and at least his is man enough to admit it and try and sort it out, unlike the pathetic little boys out there. your comments make it sound like you dont want this to happen? your insecurity is shining sameena-k.

    from what i recall that i said in my previous post, was that we realised we made a mistake, we know that an abortion is not a way out and he is going to sort it out.

    yes we will move out do dua for us inshaAllah, we will just have to take life as it comes, but inshaAllah I hope he finishes of his education because i know he can be an even greater man than he is now

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