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  • #76
    Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

    Originally posted by noobz View Post
    if today the king doughnut of saudi was removed in a coup and another dictator came with the backing of the US , all these madkhalis would say to obey him.
    answer my question please since we are talking about practicality. .
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    • #77
      Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

      Originally posted by noobz View Post
      im willing to send u on a ban holiday.
      Oh ho you got Nooz started :1popcorn:
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      • #78
        Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

        Originally posted by noobz View Post
        im willing to send u on a ban holiday.
        why im asking a legimate question
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        • #79
          Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

          No wait wait, hold on mate. Time out! I got a sincerely confused question :

          How if the suicide bombings are killing the random civilians, like average joes and janes who are not involved in the battle at all???? :O Subhanallah -- How can that be justified???
          Last edited by Ariadne; 23-08-13, 08:24 AM.
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          • #80
            Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

            Originally posted by Talwaar View Post
            GF Haddad is a mureed of shayjh nazim

            Be wary of him
            Yeah, he's a dodgy fellow.
            Humiliating people in the name of religion is the practice of someone deprived of the first fruit of religion, humility.-Nouman Ali Khan

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            • #81
              Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

              Originally posted by Ariadne View Post
              No wait wait, hold on mate. Time up! I got a sincerely confused question :

              How if the suicide bombings killing the random civilians, like average joes and janes who are not involved in the battle???? :O
              It usually does. It's such a crime, the English word sin doesn't do it justice.
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              • #82
                Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

                Originally posted by Ariadne View Post
                No wait wait, hold on mate. Time up! I got a sincerely confused question :

                How if the suicide bombings killing the random civilians, like average joes and janes who are not involved in the battle???? :O
                Some Scholars say those who are civilians, women , and children and are killed in battle are shaeehed even if they did not participate in the battle. Now there bodies is not treated like one Mujahideen meaning they do wash the civilian but they are considered a shaeehed.
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                • #83
                  Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

                  Originally posted by Mustafa Mahmud View Post
                  Yeah, he's a dodgy fellow.
                  I think yu should be more wary of that shayjh nazim. instead.

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7tFrF7xHzY
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                  • #84
                    Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

                    Originally posted by FutureImam View Post
                    Some Scholars say those who are civilians, women , and children and are killed in battle are shaeehed even if they did not participate in the battle. Now there bodies is not treated like one Mujahideen meaning they do wash the civilian but they are considered a shaeehed.
                    But guess what, you are not allowed to killed non combtants in Jihad
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                    • #85
                      Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

                      Originally posted by FutureImam View Post
                      There is more that I posted not just those. Also you disgrace the Mujaideen by saying suicide when the died fighting fr the cause of Allah. Have you ever fought for the cause of Allah? Yet you disgrace the Mujaideen who are trying protect the Muslims and their land?

                      Imam al-Ghazali said in his Ihya' `Ulum al-Din (Ithaf 7:26):
                      "There is no disagreement that it is permissible for the single Muslim to attack the ranks of the disbelievers and fight even if he knows that he will be killed. . . . However, if he knows that his assault on the disbelievers will not harm them, such as, for example, a blind man or a feeble old man throwing himself upon the disbelievers, then it is strictly forbidden and is generally meant by the verse of self-destruction. What is permissible is only to go forward when he knows that he will not be killed before he kills first, or when he knows that he will demoralize the disbelievers when they see his audacity and realize that the rest of the Muslims also do not care a whit, but love shahada in the path of Allah, whereupon the disbelievers' power will be checked."

                      Al-Qurtubi in his Tafsir (2:364) on verse 111 of Surat al-Tawba cited the following words from Imam Muhammad ibn al-Hasan:
                      "If a single man charged against a thousand mushriks alone, there is no harm in it if he hopes to escape with his life or to at least harm the enemy. Otherwise, it is abominable, because he exposed himself to destruction without benefit for the Muslims. However, if his intent was to embolden the Muslims against the enemy as an example for them to follow, then it would not be far-fetched to say it is permissible because, from certain perspectives, there is benefit in it for the Muslims. And if his intent is to terrorize the enemy (fa-in kana qasduhu irhaba al-`aduw) so that the latter understand that the Muslims are unyielding when it comes to Religion, then it is not far-fetched to say it is permissible. WHEN THERE IS BENEFIT IN IT FOR THE MUSLIMS AND HIS (THE MUSLIM'S) LIFE IS DESTROYED IN ORDER TO STRENGTHEN THE RELIGION OF ALLAH AND WEAKEN UNBELIEF, THIS IS THE TRULY NOBLE STATION WHICH ALLAH MOST HIGH PRAISED WHEN HE SAID, {Truly Allah has bought from the believers their lives and properties} (9:111) AMONG OTHER VERSES PRAISING WHOEVER SACRIFICES HIMSELF (man badhala nafsah). In such fashion alone is the ruling of commanding good and forbidding evil understood."
                      There is more that I posted not just those. Also you disgrace the Mujaideen by saying suicide when the died fighting fr the cause of Allah. Have you ever fought for the cause of Allah? Yet you disgrace the Mujaideen who are trying protect the Muslims and their land?
                      That's a quick way to shut someone up, but I don't care. It's irrelevent whether you think good or bad of me, I have nothing to prove to you. Any deeds I do are for Allah aza wa jal, not for you.

                      And the Shariah is above the Mujahideen, not vice versa. Allah is more of a knower of who does jihad in his path. Suicide is haram-again, if the kuffar kill a Muslim that is one thing. But in suicide bombing, the Muslim is killing himself. And in many cases, other Muslims as well. They are khawarij dogs of fire.

                      Al-Qurtubi in his Tafsir (2:364) on verse 111 of Surat al-Tawba cited the following words from Imam Muhammad ibn al-Hasan:
                      "If a single man charged against a thousand mushriks alone, there is no harm in it if he hopes to escape with his life or to at least harm the enemy. Otherwise, it is abominable, because he exposed himself to destruction without benefit for the Muslims. However, if his intent was to embolden the Muslims against the enemy as an example for them to follow, then it would not be far-fetched to say it is permissible because, from certain perspectives, there is benefit in it for the Muslims. And if his intent is to terrorize the enemy (fa-in kana qasduhu irhaba al-`aduw) so that the latter understand that the Muslims are unyielding when it comes to Religion, then it is not far-fetched to say it is permissible. WHEN THERE IS BENEFIT IN IT FOR THE MUSLIMS AND HIS (THE MUSLIM'S) LIFE IS DESTROYED IN ORDER TO STRENGTHEN THE RELIGION OF ALLAH AND WEAKEN UNBELIEF, THIS IS THE TRULY NOBLE STATION WHICH ALLAH MOST HIGH PRAISED WHEN HE SAID, {Truly Allah has bought from the believers their lives and properties} (9:111) AMONG OTHER VERSES PRAISING WHOEVER SACRIFICES HIMSELF (man badhala nafsah). In such fashion alone is the ruling of commanding good and forbidding evil understood."
                      Again, kuffar killing a Muslim is different from a Muslim killing himself. In suicide bombing, the Muslim is literally killing himself. It's fully his choice.
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                      • #86
                        Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

                        Originally posted by FutureImam View Post
                        Some Scholars say those who are civilians, women , and children and are killed in battle are shaeehed even if they did not participate in the battle. Now there bodies is not treated like one Mujahideen meaning they do wash the civilian but they are considered a shaeehed.
                        SubhanAllah, so the women who is tending to her children and is blown to bits along with her children by some suicide bomber is now shaheed? Well that suicide bomber better prepare for a pretty hot fire. I'm pretty sure these innocent Muslims don't want to be dragged into being shahid by suicide bombers. Let suicide bombers leave them alone.
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                        • #87
                          Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

                          Anyways I'm going to sleep. ﻼﺴﻟا ﻢﻜﯿﻠﻋ و ﺔﻤﺣر ﻪﻠﻟا و ﻪﺗﺎﻛ
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                          • #88
                            Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

                            Originally posted by muslimboy764 View Post
                            But guess what, you are not allowed to killed non combtants in Jihad
                            It happened many many times when the Prophet (pbuh) and the Companions were doing Jihad. So they weren't doing Jihad now because innocents got killed?
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                            • #89
                              Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

                              Originally posted by FutureImam View Post
                              Some Scholars say those who are civilians, women , and children and are killed in battle are shaeehed even if they did not participate in the battle. Now there bodies is not treated like one Mujahideen meaning they do wash the civilian but they are considered a shaeehed.
                              No, what I mean is killing the non-muslim civilians like randomly bombing their market or public places, while these people being killed never involved in battle at all.... Sure it's haraam in Islam to kill the innocents civilians, though they're non-muslims?

                              I don't refer the muslim civilians being killed.
                              Last edited by Ariadne; 23-08-13, 08:40 AM.
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                              • #90
                                Re: Taliban Extremism Sickening Tatics

                                Originally posted by Mustafa Mahmud View Post
                                SubhanAllah, so the women who is tending to her children and is blown to bits along with her children by some suicide bomber is now shaheed? Well that suicide bomber better prepare for a pretty hot fire. I'm pretty sure these innocent Muslims don't want to be dragged into being shahid by suicide bombers. Let suicide bombers leave them alone.
                                You keep saying suicide bombers but it is Jihad. You act like being a Shaeehd is a bad thing That's Wahn in your heart speaking. Wallahi no one would complain if they were killed and be considered a Shaeehd unless they had wahn in their hearts.

                                Who are you to say they will in end up in hell? You are not Allah to decide where they go.
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