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[ThisIsJannah]

Assalamualaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh

Allahumma salli alaa Muhammad

Please say durood/salawat upon our prophet(sallallahu alayhi wa sallam)
Its Friday, pray juma and make dua for ummah.

[Morose]

Blood is thicker than water.

[detached soul]

Where there is a will there is a way.

[notEVOLVED]

"mother of humanity"

[Mufti Cheesecake]

For sure, the West is just getting worse and worse. Especially when it comes to this LGBT agenda. As long as liberals aren't prevented from holding power things will just get worse. If things are like this now, I can only imagine how everything will be 10-30 years from now. The older, conservative population will die off and the youth with their radical leftists beliefs will have more power. In many areas in the US teachers are having to cater to the LGBT agenda even if they work in elementary schools! Anti-discrimination laws can and probably will end up effecting masaajid too.

It seems like things are changing now, theres much less people that will let things slide, most people aren't ok with whats going on. Like in the US a lot more people are voting republican and leaving democrats, in Canada the same, more are starting to support the conservatives. Contrary to popular belief, a lot of the youth are conservative or at least anti leftist.

But don't know if that will make things better, just means we're exchanging one shayateen for another.

[Mufti Cheesecake]

So my school is making us do this BS mandatory sexual violence prevention training, I didn't do it so they gave me a warning that if I don't they'll escalate the case to the higher ups. You guys know what I can tell them? that its against my beliefs or something, because it does just seem like clear propaganda. I'm thinking of messaging them and asking for evidence showing that this training works to actual stop these things, but idk if that will let me pass on it.

[Abu 'Abdullaah]

So my school is making us do this BS mandatory sexual violence prevention training, I didn't do it so they gave me a warning that if I don't they'll escalate the case to the higher ups. You guys know what I can tell them? that its against my beliefs or something, because it does just seem like clear propaganda. I'm thinking of messaging them and asking for evidence showing that this training works to actual stop these things, but idk if that will let me pass on it.

How is it against your beliefs?

[neelu]

About Canada, I've said for years that this love affair with Trudeau is only temporary just like America's love affair with Obama and in a few years time, just as the American pendulum swung the other way bringing in Trump, it's only a matter of time before the pendulum swings the other way in Canada as well bringing in their own right wing PM. You are right about exchanging one shaytan for another. Sadly this happens in the Muslim world as well, in which people get involved in a fight between two 'opposing' political parties that are both implementing secularism and subservient to the US but the people are fooled that one leader is more 'Islamic' than the other cos of a few lip service slogans and that is why the situation never improves. When the token 'Islamist' person is kicked out of office, then his secular supporters weep that "democracy wasn't given a proper chance" and his religious supporters weep that "Islam wasn't given a chance" cos they are fooled into thinking 'gradualism' is a thing that works even though it has nothing to do with Islam. It happened with Morsi and is now happening with Imran Khan and will keep on happening.

So my school is making us do this BS mandatory sexual violence prevention training, I didn't do it so they gave me a warning that if I don't they'll escalate the case to the higher ups. You guys know what I can tell them? that its against my beliefs or something, because it does just seem like clear propaganda. I'm thinking of messaging them and asking for evidence showing that this training works to actual stop these things, but idk if that will let me pass on it.

I think you should just go cos the cost of not going seems a bit too high. If they promote something objectionable in the training let us know and we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

[hasan2013]

So my school is making us do this BS mandatory sexual violence prevention training, I didn't do it so they gave me a warning that if I don't they'll escalate the case to the higher ups. You guys know what I can tell them? that its against my beliefs or something, because it does just seem like clear propaganda. I'm thinking of messaging them and asking for evidence showing that this training works to actual stop these things, but idk if that will let me pass on it.

Preventing sexual violence is a valid objective, so I don't think you can argue against it from an Islamic point of view.

But if there is something dodgy in the training, just tell us and we can give you further advice insh'Allah..

[Mufti Cheesecake]

How is it against your beliefs?

Because I believe its BS

[Mufti Cheesecake]

Preventing sexual violence is a valid objective, so I don't think you can argue against it from an Islamic point of view.

But if there is something dodgy in the training, just tell us and we can give you further advice insh'Allah..

Please, I don't need to be lectured by kuffar just because they've allowed and promoted degeneracy in their society.

[Mufti Cheesecake]

I mean like, they've basically taken the stance that we're all rapists and sex offenders, and that we have to be taught not to rape and sexually harass. This is demeaning to say the least. What does this have to do with what I'm studying, what does this have to do with medicine? And what evidence is there that this training actually works? How many rapes have they stopped with this nonsense? Do they think rapists will be like, "hmmmm thats a good point, rape is bad" and then not do it?

They made us do some other nonsense sometime ago, where they made us take an "implicit bias" test when it comes to gender and career, I just thought whatever, my result was that I associate male with career and female with family, and they made this out to be wrong for some reason. This is nothing but propaganda and indoctrination.

[Ya'sin]

I mean like, they've basically taken the stance that we're all rapists and sex offenders, and that we have to be taught not to rape and sexually harass. This is demeaning to say the least. What does this have to do with what I'm studying, what does this have to do with medicine? And what evidence is there that this training actually works? How many rapes have they stopped with this nonsense? Do they think rapists will be like, "hmmmm thats a good point, rape is bad" and then not do it?

They made us do some other nonsense sometime ago, where they made us take an "implicit bias" test when it comes to gender and career, I just thought whatever, my result was that I associate male with career and female with family, and they made this out to be wrong for some reason. This is nothing but propaganda and indoctrination.

If you ask me, I think you should put your passion aside for the time being and just do the course but then provide feedback on how you feel it is discriminatory towards men and their stance that's similar to original sin. You could add more to it and explain how it could potentially create more harm, e.g if you tell a kid he is bad to begin with, he could more likely end up being more rebellious.

You can create your own network for men/male students if you want, men that have had enough of being painted as sexual predators, gain some support for your opinions with like minded people, there are non Muslim men that have had enough too.

Some medical practitioners have abused their profession and patient trust so it can be argued that this topic they want you take can be beneficial, just because one focuses on specialising in a specific subject, it doesn't mean that other subjects don't intertwine with it. Medicine in today's world is practically connected to the economy, and there's so much ethical and social issues, e.g euthanasia, there is a debate going on whether or not it should be legalised.

We have to understand that we have chosen to come to a Kaffir country to benefit from their educational system. This isn't to say we should get abused and our faith to be trampled over, but we have to remember there is no point of ruining what you came here for a pesky module that is not against your immediate beliefs. Passion can make us regretful later on in life.

I think you should focus on your studies and not risk getting further warnings, it's not worth it because our one opinion will not change the world. The world will and is supposed to get worse so we have to prepare ourselves and protect our offsprings by making sure we do not benefit from those that are enemies of Islam.

This is our biggest failure, we stay with those we criticise, we take from them, we seek protection from them and then we expect them to learn from us or take our plea seriously?

We can only give dawah to those that will take heed.

[Abu 'Abdullaah]

Hello SISTER

[hasan2013]

Please, I don't need to be lectured by kuffar just because they've allowed and promoted degeneracy in their society.

Not every segment of the western population agrees with sexual liberation so generalising like this is not correct and it's not like Muslim majority countries are necessarily better. Egypt, a country full of Muslims but has lots of fahisha and sexual harassment and violence and not much is done to stamp out sexual crimes. Victim blaming is common place there and in other Muslim majority countries.
At least here they are trying to put an end to this and protect women (and men). I think it should be appreciated rather than opposed.