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  • Originally posted by RuthlessSoftie View Post

    I don't think anyone's bitter or petty point scoring in this conversation son.

    Also I dislike the way how people keep assuming excessively negative things just because a post or conversation isn't to their liking. It was same with that incel community post and others one's implying there's ganging up going on even though the accused people involved were not even cooperating. People just think differently on some issues, no need for a conspiracy explanation.
    Thank you for being sensible and understanding about this

    ​​​​​​I do spend time on the forum but trying to score points over what- I think that would be what low lives do and it's pathetic. I don't see the brothers on here as enemies. I have a problem with one person but eventually everyone will see what games are being played him, It's very petty. No amount of masking the act will cover it.

    I don't enjoy the constantly bickering between males and females, anyone that finds that's entertainment is evil because they enjoy discord amongst members. I like to have an amicable relationship with everyone on here without pretence.
    the reason I am talking about it because the subject was mentioned so I wanted to share my frustrations about it too because it is a real problem, it's obvious women are the easy targets for it and hence most of us want some sort of protection or security offered in Muslim majority countries but how and what, we don't know



    'Whatever it be wherein ye differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn.' The Holy Qu'ran Al Shura (Consultation)

    So, which of the favours of your lord will you deny? ~ Surah Ar Rahman

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    • Originally posted by notEVOLVED View Post

      It's so common that there's a special term for it in South Asia, "eve-teasing". Although, eve-teasing is worse because it goes beyond looking to actually teasing and harassing. Victims sometimes commit suicide due to constantly being harassed. I remember it was very bad back in 2010, and there were lots of media coverage about it. But it died down as usual.
      I vaguely remember hearing something about it, thanks for sharing

      I talk to non Muslim colleagues and they have the same complaints about their experience in middle Eastern countries, e.g Egypt
      Being a Muslim and talking about how great our religion is and how it honours women, it's like a slap in the face because a person who might want to witness this part of our religion doesn't see it because the Muslims they have met act the opposite

      I know people can think whatever but sometimes it becomes hard to explain to people when they are convinced that the respect for women in Islam is very little

      'Whatever it be wherein ye differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn.' The Holy Qu'ran Al Shura (Consultation)

      So, which of the favours of your lord will you deny? ~ Surah Ar Rahman

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      • Originally posted by Mufti Cheesecake View Post

        I remember as a kid ( 5yr old male boy) the few times I visited Bangladesh I had experiences too. I remember that when going out, men used to always stare at me, idk if they were sexually doing so, but it was weird still, eventually I would start staring back, and then they'd shyly look away. I remember also I got circumcised there, and after the procedure I was in my bed, in a big room with other beds, it was too painful for me to put a blanket to cover myself, but the male nurse there kept saying I needed to because there were guys staring at me from the door, idk if that was true or if he was just saying that to get me to put the blanket on. Another similar experience when I was at my aunts apartment, it was too hot, and the only room that had a breeze was the family room because the door to the lobby was open, so I used to nap on the couch there in the afternoons, but my aunt kept saying not to because there were guys walking by in the lobby that would stop and stare at me sleeping, again idk if she was just saying that to get me to sleep somewhere else because she was embarrassed. I wasn't like a feminine looking boy either.
        So sorry about your experience, it's appalling and creepy (don't they have circumcision centres in Canada? We have some in the UK).

        My experience in Bangladesh was nowhere near bad but still bad enough, my two sisters had it the worst as they were of marriageable age (in their teens).

        The gang leader would start singing Bollywood songs and there was a hill next to our house where they would try to get a glimpse of us
        'Whatever it be wherein ye differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn.' The Holy Qu'ran Al Shura (Consultation)

        So, which of the favours of your lord will you deny? ~ Surah Ar Rahman

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        • I really thought that I was starting work tomorrow but apparently it’s after tomorrow. I’ve lost all track of time. I get one more day!

          Time to start the countdown for winter break.

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          • Originally posted by RuthlessSoftie View Post

            I don't think anyone's bitter or petty point scoring in this conversation son.

            Also I dislike the way how people keep assuming excessively negative things just because a post or conversation isn't to their liking. It was same with that incel community post and others one's implying there's ganging up going on even though the accused people involved were not even cooperating. People just think differently on some issues, no need for a conspiracy explanation.
            It's not about thinking differently, it's about bringing up the symptom that we all agree is present, i.e sexual harrassment, but without even attempting to understand any of the underlying causes or to offer any solutions. Unless the belief is that there is no cause.

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            • Originally posted by Mufti Cheesecake View Post

              Nah more likely what you said before:



              I wasn't trying to attack men bro, chill. Its just a fact that you go to these countries and theres this street culture of perving, especially in the big cities.
              No one is denying that the issue exists, the point is not being willing to consider the underlying reasons for it, which I have already explained. Unless the belief is that there are no reasons, and Bangladeshi men are just born with a greater inclination towards being pervs than others.

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              • Originally posted by Eorlingas View Post

                It's not about thinking differently, it's about bringing up the symptom that we all agree is present, i.e sexual harrassment, but without even attempting to understand any of the underlying causes or to offer any solutions. Unless the belief is that there is no cause.
                I get that but I wasn't quoting you about the topic bro, I was just aiming at your last sentence about bitter people etc...

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                • Originally posted by Ya'sin View Post

                  I attempted it before, my health problem isn't due to mere deficiencies and my body isn't in the right state for weights. I'll cause more damage. I have severe reactions to iron supplements so I don't take those anymore.

                  Every time I go to the doctor, they say I'm fine and they don't like to look into it too much because I'm supposed to be 'young'. Called doctor today and no appointments.

                  I stopped exercise because that's when I over did it and injured my hip but my problems are mostly hormonal and the doctors aren't helpful, I'm planning on saving up for private health for thorough check ups and diagnosis.

                  I still have that cough and they did scans but it's labelled 'seasonal cough'. Every time I explain to people they actually don't even believe it especially with the pandemic but that's what I was told and there's no solution for it.

                  I need an injection to boost me with energy.

                  When I feel well, I go out for a walk, mostly at lunch times. I look like a healthy person minus the tired eyes but I need a check up.
                  those lousy GPs, there's a reason why they chose to specialise in general practice

                  when you are in the right state, you could try again, but do not overburden yourself. start small and progressively increase load and stress to avoid injury. also do warm ups and exercise using correct form, you shouldnt injure yourself

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                  • Originally posted by RuthlessSoftie View Post

                    I get that but I wasn't quoting you about the topic bro, I was just aiming at your last sentence about bitter people etc...
                    Well when someone repeatedly points out a negative behaviour of men in these countries with no consideration of the contributory causes, and when presented with them simply ignores it and carries on in the same vein, what other conclusions can one draw from it other then that they have an irrational dislike of men and rush to highlight the negative behaviour without any concern for the context.

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                    • dont feel guilty about handing in my notice anymore

                      this lass at work has decided to take a week of holiday right at the time when there is load of work to do

                      and all this work has fallen on to me. it is her work too but now i have to cover it

                      no more guilt from me, 2 more weeks and then it's peace out from me.

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                      • back home, people stare at you, whether you are male or female

                        they find brits fascinating, a new species

                        they're so mesmerised, they do not realise they're staring and dont realise it's rude

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                        • I fear Morose is no longer keepin' it real.

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                          • Thanks for letting me know. I saw another post on fb about a different sister who decided to visit Minar E Pakistan that day with her parents and family to see the celebrations. She didn't witness the viral incident, but she did say that when they got there, they were shocked by how outnumbered they were by loads of men on the streets, a number of them carrying weapons like sticks and knives. They didn't care that she was with her family, they kept deliberately bumping into her and shoving her just to make physical contact. This is a Lahori family but they had no idea that the area was so dangerous as they hadn't been to Minar E Pakistan for the celebrations before.

                            Her family decided to go to the metro to try and leave the area, only to find that the metro service had been closed. They tried to get up the stairs but the area was so crowded that many of the family members became separated. This girl said the place was crowded with intimidating men carrying weapons and there was a police station nearby but the police were sitting in their station relaxing and doing nothing. She managed to find a male cousin and grabbed on to him for dear life, pulling him in between herself and any man that tried to make physical contact with her. Eventually her brother turned up and called a nearby rickshaw to take his female family members home. Some of the men in the crowd tried to attack the rickshaw driver to prevent him from taking the women away but he was carrying a stick and managed to scare them away. She said the rickshaw driver was very respectful and managed to transport them to a safe place.

                            Originally posted by usernametaken View Post
                            From what I know a TikToker from Pakistan went to monarch e Pakistan for the celebrations (with a bunch of male friends, she wasn’t alone), and was ok with people taking selfies with her. Then people started harassing her, tearing her clothes and basically carrying her around and torturing her for a few hours. There were about 400 men in that crowd.
                            The Lyme Disease pandemic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5u73ME4sVU

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                            • Originally posted by neelu View Post
                              Thanks for letting me know...
                              Lots of posts online saying the incident was staged.

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                              • I remembered when I worked in retail I had a customer who did something to me that was inappropriate
                                He was one of those construction workers imported from the subcontient and dropped by
                                We import a lot of foreigners here for construction so it's common to see
                                He appeared to be Bangledeshi
                                This was back in 2016 and did part-time
                                I called the police, they came and tried to track him using CCTVs but they can't do a close up on his face, I just remembered them telling me that area was like a "hotspot" for some factory workers, construction workers who were foreigner etc so i'm guessing they implied that mall isn't safe for me (gets crowded with them during peak hours)

                                The thing here I live in city state too, very "modern" so to speak but when you have foreigners who aren't used to people here, they bring what they think is normal, including their perverted behaviors, but I believe harrassment is global issue now tbh
                                It is growing here imo, a lot of local men act like djinns and out of character around girls so to speak

                                the police here seem to take my words seriously back then and now, I remembered there was a policewoman on the phone after incident called me in and told me
                                Apparently if you get touched by someone inappropriately you should give your piece of clothing UNWASHED to police immediately, or else they can't track the culprit by taking DNA off the clothing, it will be gone by 48 hours
                                It was too late for me because I washed it, but at least I'm more aware now of what to do should it happen again

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