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  • Originally posted by Ya'sin View Post

    Yeh but realistically, how many actually care, honestly they couldn't care less and a woman doesn't have to be my blood relative for me to care about her safety and well being (saying this in general because that's how it seems to be)

    In Bangladesh, me and my sisters were told not to walk around the courtyard. How bad is that, I was a teenager and didn't know anything naive, dumb so I learnt on later that it was because some men used to stalk my sister and there are creeps that check women out.

    If I haven't made it obvious enough, I'm a plain Jane and it doesn't matter if you're drop dead gorgeous, these men have no respect for women but then again, they have no dignity for themselves.

    In other words, I hated it over there, very restricted purely because there's no safety because of the men and no system in place to help you

    This is coming from someone who stays home anyway, so it's not to do with being a feminist either.

    I just don't understand, are men that hungry, I know Allah made women a fitnah for them but how much out of control can one get, may Allah keep us safe and on the straight path. Ameen
    It's so common that there's a special term for it in South Asia, "eve-teasing". Although, eve-teasing is worse because it goes beyond looking to actually teasing and harassing. Victims sometimes commit suicide due to constantly being harassed. I remember it was very bad back in 2010, and there were lots of media coverage about it. But it died down as usual.

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    • Originally posted by Ya'sin View Post

      If I haven't made it obvious enough, I'm a plain Jane and it doesn't matter if you're drop dead gorgeous, these men have no respect for women but then again, they have no dignity for themselves.
      I remember as a kid ( 5yr old male boy) the few times I visited Bangladesh I had experiences too. I remember that when going out, men used to always stare at me, idk if they were sexually doing so, but it was weird still, eventually I would start staring back, and then they'd shyly look away. I remember also I got circumcised there, and after the procedure I was in my bed, in a big room with other beds, it was too painful for me to put a blanket to cover myself, but the male nurse there kept saying I needed to because there were guys staring at me from the door, idk if that was true or if he was just saying that to get me to put the blanket on. Another similar experience when I was at my aunts apartment, it was too hot, and the only room that had a breeze was the family room because the door to the lobby was open, so I used to nap on the couch there in the afternoons, but my aunt kept saying not to because there were guys walking by in the lobby that would stop and stare at me sleeping, again idk if she was just saying that to get me to sleep somewhere else because she was embarrassed. I wasn't like a feminine looking boy either.

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      • in south asia there is a rape culture going on amongst some men a trend of abusing women and also displaying it on social media

        it commonly happens in india and bangladesh

        and many rape and harrassment cases are not looked into by authorities

        this is the consequence of following corrupt democratic laws they have no justice
        aswell as what the brother previously said about making marriage hard and increase in pornography and globalisation

        some of these guys just need get wacked to make the rest learn a lesson

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        • Originally posted by Abu julaybeeb View Post

          the only way to fix it is through some of these dogs getting executed or stoned
          I don't think that is a viable long term solution. The corruption, lack of resources, training, time, among other issues doesn't make it feasible.

          I'm not sure what the point is of a few people posting anecdotal stories and repeating the same mantra of "Muslim men bad". What are they hoping to achieve?

          Is their belief that men from certain countries are inherently predisposed to harass women, and others aren't? Are they suggesting it is genetic? It's like concluding that from looking at crime figures, certain races are genetically predisposed to criminality.

          It's sad that a few bitter people on the forum are using a terrible situation for petty point scoring.

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          • Originally posted by Mufti Cheesecake View Post

            I remember as a kid ( 5yr old male boy) the few times I visited Bangladesh I had experiences too. I remember that when going out, men used to always stare at me, idk if they were sexually doing so, but it was weird still, eventually I would start staring back, and then they'd shyly look away. I remember also I got circumcised there, and after the procedure I was in my bed, in a big room with other beds, it was too painful for me to put a blanket to cover myself, but the male nurse there kept saying I needed to because there were guys staring at me from the door, idk if that was true or if he was just saying that to get me to put the blanket on. Another similar experience when I was at my aunts apartment, it was too hot, and the only room that had a breeze was the family room because the door to the lobby was open, so I used to nap on the couch there in the afternoons, but my aunt kept saying not to because there were guys walking by in the lobby that would stop and stare at me sleeping, again idk if she was just saying that to get me to sleep somewhere else because she was embarrassed. I wasn't like a feminine looking boy either.
            And what's the conclusion to be drawn from this? That Bangladeshi men are genetically predisposed to want to molest young boys?

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            • One thing I've noticed on this forum is that regarding male behavior, it's common to attack the symptom and simply blame men, ignoring the possible causes for it. On the other hand when it is an issue pertaining to females e.g. posting provocative tiktok videos, or a married woman meeting a male friend, the focus is on the possible causes for the behaviour.

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              • Originally posted by Eorlingas View Post

                I don't think that is a viable long term solution. The corruption, lack of resources, training, time, among other issues doesn't make it feasible.

                I'm not sure what the point is of a few people posting anecdotal stories and repeating the same mantra of "Muslim men bad". What are they hoping to achieve?

                Is their belief that men from certain countries are inherently predisposed to harass women, and others aren't? Are they suggesting it is genetic? It's like concluding that from looking at crime figures, certain races are genetically predisposed to criminality.

                It's sad that a few bitter people on the forum are using a terrible situation for petty point scoring.
                you can look on the dhaka tribune website and see everyday how there is a rape case story

                its not muslim men who are bad if you read my post i mentioned india the bulk of which are hindus this is not to do with Islam or muslim men

                im not point scoring anything

                there has been a sharp increase in rape and harrassment around the world but especially in the last 2 decades within south asia the reason is due to internet globalisation, pornography, the lack of ability to get married due to high financial costs and corruption in government

                check bengali news websites more often and you will see or if you want check the statistics

                i hate femenists but this is not an attack on men its a sad reality

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                • actually the last decade not 2 sorry

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                  • https://www.dhakatribune.com/banglad...ld-in-faridpur

                    this is today's news

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                    • Originally posted by Abu julaybeeb View Post

                      you can look on the dhaka tribune website and see everyday how there is a rape case story

                      its not muslim men who are bad if you read my post i mentioned india the bulk of which are hindus this is not to do with Islam or muslim men

                      im not point scoring anything

                      there has been a sharp increase in rape and harrassment around the world but especially in the last 2 decades within south asia the reason is due to internet globalisation, pornography, the lack of ability to get married due to high financial costs and corruption in government

                      check bengali news websites more often and you will see or if you want check the statistics

                      i hate femenists but this is not an attack on men its a sad reality
                      I agree the issue has been around a long time and not properly addressed. Identifying the various societal causes for it and offering long term lasting solutions would be more helpful instead of simplly putting it down to "pervy muslim men" ( not saying you are doing this) and leaving it at that. That doesn't help the situation, it only helps the enemies of Islam demonize the religion further.

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                      • Originally posted by Ya'sin View Post

                        Ameen

                        It's true, simple things like getting up easily and walking comfortably, that's freedom, or walking to the nearest shop to buy something.

                        Currently I can't move about properly, it's temporary but it is becoming more frequent not even a doctor can help you but for someone like myself that doesn't go out much anyway, having independence such as good health is precious.

                        I can't imagine those who are always out and about survive being home bound.

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                        Yasin you need to get some weights and do some exercise and eat lots of protein

                        build strength

                        Bengali manush health is bad

                        Diabetes, bitman d problems all the time

                        fix up

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                        • Lads make du’a that i get £400 back from these spanish guys

                          they already refunded me £200 but i need another £400 back

                          i will never use that shop again

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                          • Originally posted by Eorlingas View Post

                            And what's the conclusion to be drawn from this? That Bangladeshi men are genetically predisposed to want to molest young boys?
                            Nah more likely what you said before:

                            Muslim societies copying the western capitalist criteria for marriage, but still keeping the conservative sexual morality, has created the perfect storm for this. Sexually repressed societies juxtaposed with exposure to increasing lewdness, high levels of poverty, corruption and lawlessness, will unfortunately lead to higher levels of harassment.
                            I wasn't trying to attack men bro, chill. Its just a fact that you go to these countries and theres this street culture of perving, especially in the big cities.

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                            • Originally posted by Eorlingas View Post

                              I don't think that is a viable long term solution. The corruption, lack of resources, training, time, among other issues doesn't make it feasible.

                              I'm not sure what the point is of a few people posting anecdotal stories and repeating the same mantra of "Muslim men bad". What are they hoping to achieve?

                              Is their belief that men from certain countries are inherently predisposed to harass women, and others aren't? Are they suggesting it is genetic? It's like concluding that from looking at crime figures, certain races are genetically predisposed to criminality.

                              It's sad that a few bitter people on the forum are using a terrible situation for petty point scoring.
                              I don't think anyone's bitter or petty point scoring in this conversation son.

                              Also I dislike the way how people keep assuming excessively negative things just because a post or conversation isn't to their liking. It was same with that incel community post and others one's implying there's ganging up going on even though the accused people involved were not even cooperating. People just think differently on some issues, no need for a conspiracy explanation.

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                              • Originally posted by Faith reloaded 2 View Post

                                Yasin you need to get some weights and do some exercise and eat lots of protein

                                build strength

                                Bengali manush health is bad

                                Diabetes, bitman d problems all the time

                                fix up
                                I attempted it before, my health problem isn't due to mere deficiencies and my body isn't in the right state for weights. I'll cause more damage. I have severe reactions to iron supplements so I don't take those anymore.

                                Every time I go to the doctor, they say I'm fine and they don't like to look into it too much because I'm supposed to be 'young'. Called doctor today and no appointments.

                                I stopped exercise because that's when I over did it and injured my hip but my problems are mostly hormonal and the doctors aren't helpful, I'm planning on saving up for private health for thorough check ups and diagnosis.

                                I still have that cough and they did scans but it's labelled 'seasonal cough'. Every time I explain to people they actually don't even believe it especially with the pandemic but that's what I was told and there's no solution for it.

                                I need an injection to boost me with energy.

                                When I feel well, I go out for a walk, mostly at lunch times. I look like a healthy person minus the tired eyes but I need a check up.
                                'Whatever it be wherein ye differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn.' The Holy Qu'ran Al Shura (Consultation)

                                So, which of the favours of your lord will you deny? ~ Surah Ar Rahman

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