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    Ibn Tumart was seen as a very pious person.

    He was known for his piety since he was a child.

    He even helped play a major role in spreading Ash'arism in the west.

    Yet, he claimed to be the mahdi.....


    So, a person can come across pious but can end up misguided.....

    The more reason to be fearful and never consider yourself safe from the makr of Allaah as the scholars point out.....
    Last edited by ZeeshanParvez; 14-09-18, 02:18 PM.
    Watch those eyes

  • #2
    Originally posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post

    The more reason to be fearful and never consider yourself safe from the makr of Allaah as the scholars point out.....
    What does 'makr' mean?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MyUsernameIs... View Post

      What does 'makr' mean?
      It is often translated as planning or scheming. You can see it in two different translations below



      Shakir
      What! do they then feel secure from Allah's plan? But none feels secure from Allah's plan except the people who shall perish.

      Dr. Ghali
      So, do they feel secure against the scheming of Allah? Then none feels secure against the scheming of Allah except the people (who) are the losers.



      Watch those eyes

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post

        It is often translated as planning or scheming. You can see it in two different translations below



        Shakir
        What! do they then feel secure from Allah's plan? But none feels secure from Allah's plan except the people who shall perish.

        Dr. Ghali
        So, do they feel secure against the scheming of Allah? Then none feels secure against the scheming of Allah except the people (who) are the losers.


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        • #5
          Originally posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post
          Ibn Tumart was seen as a very pious person.

          He was known for his piety since he was a child.

          He even helped play a major role in spreading Ash'arism in the west.

          Yet, he claimed to be the mahdi.....


          So, a person can come across pious but can end up misguided.....

          The more reason to be fearful and never consider yourself safe from the makr of Allaah as the scholars point out.....
          Yes a person can come accross as pious and can even be Munafiqun/Kuffar as the Quran states.

          A pious person however is not a Deviant/Munafiq/Kaafir/Mushrik.

          True, we don't consider ourselves saved from the punishment of Allah عز و جل

          Title however was misleading "Pious yet Misguided"

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          Last edited by Saif-Uddin; 26-09-18, 01:24 PM.
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          "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

          – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post

            Yes a person can come accross as pious and can even be Munafiqun/Kuffar as the Quran states.

            A pious person however is not a Deviant/Munafiq/Kaafir/Mushrik.

            True, we don't cinsider ourselves saved from the punishment of Allah عز و جل

            Title however was misleading "Puous yet Misguided"

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            It wasn't misleading. We all know you have reading issues. I suggest you learn to read. Otherwise you will keep crying all day.
            Watch those eyes

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post

              It wasn't misleading. We all know you have reading issues. I suggest you learn to read. Otherwise you will keep crying all day.
              The title should be From Piety to Misguidance

              A person cannot be Pious and Misguided at the same time.
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              "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

              – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post

                The title should be From Piety to Misguidance

                A person cannot be Pious and Misguided at the same time.
                Well, you technically could. You can be pious, but be misguided in your piety.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JoNaEl View Post

                  Well, you technically could. You can be pious, but be misguided in your piety.
                  I know many kuffar who come across as pious and nice people. I then sincerely wish Allah guides them before they die. But in reality they are actually the worst because they serve as example to the wayward, like you don't have to be a Muslim to be pious.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JoNaEl View Post

                    Well, you technically could. You can be pious, but be misguided in your piety.
                    Piety and Misguidance are opposites.

                    Somone who is a Muttaqeen is not Miguided and vice versa,

                    I wouldn't expect a deviant like you to understand.

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                    "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

                    – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post

                      Piety and Misguidance are opposites.

                      Somone who is a Muttaqeen is not Miguided and vice versa,

                      I wouldn't expect a deviant like you to understand.
                      Why do you get so angry all the time

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                      Watch those eyes

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post

                        Why do you get so angry all the time

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                        Im not angry Mufti saab, just pointing out the obvious, if you did your homework you woukd know the deviant, but you get a kick out of mocking your own brothers and sisters.

                        And you have the audacity to create threads on manners.

                        People like you with ego problems,

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                        "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

                        – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post

                          Im not angry Mufti saab, just pointing out the obvious, if you did your homework you woukd know the deviant, but you get a kick out of mocking your own brothers and sisters.

                          And you have the audacity to create threads on manners.

                          People like you with ego problems,

                          Facepalm
                          So much anger and hate....
                          Watch those eyes

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post

                            Im not angry Mufti saab, just pointing out the obvious, if you did your homework you woukd know the deviant, but you get a kick out of mocking your own brothers and sisters.

                            And you have the audacity to create threads on manners.

                            People like you with ego problems,

                            Facepalm
                            I read ppl who are really nice from the inside often hide behind aggression so they don't get hurt.

                            As per your advice I don't generalize.

                            So let me ask you, does this apply to u?
                            Watch those eyes

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post

                              Im not angry Mufti saab, just pointing out the obvious, if you did your homework you woukd know the deviant, but you get a kick out of mocking your own brothers and sisters.

                              And you have the audacity to create threads on manners.

                              People like you with ego problems,

                              Facepalm
                              Imagine the good you could achieve if you let go of the anger...

                              Just because I'm bad doesn't mean you have to be bad...

                              You are here to help guide ppl to the truth aren't you? I mean you know that if you help lead a person to truth, you get all the good that comes from his or her good deeds...

                              Don't you want that good? The nicer and calmer you are the higher chance you stand of convincing ppl of your narrative and getting their good deed rewards
                              Watch those eyes

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