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    #16
    Re: Arabic Watsapp Group

    Originally posted by AbuMubarak View Post
    i know this may not be the norm, but i have major issues with using the "madina book" for starters

    it just doesnt work

    you dont learn a language by learning grammar first, you learn by using words, piece by piece until you can make an intelligible sentence, then you learn to properly construct a sentence and THEN you learn grammar and the rules

    this is the way we all learned our mother tongue, NOT by learning the rules of grammar first, you didnt do that until you were about 7-10 years old

    for some reason, someone thinks you can learn arabic by learning grammar first, and for native arabs, that may be needed because they have learned their colloquial arabic first, so they need to relearn the proper syntax of fus'ha

    non arabs find the madina book the hardest, YET, thats the way everyone wants to teach them


    Agreed, I've dropped out so many times due to this very same reason..

    I've just started Bayna Yadayk and am finding it easy to pick up.

    Each to their own I guess, some find it easy, some hard.
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      #17
      Re: Arabic Watsapp Group

      I "dropped out" from Medina Books before finishing book 1. Not because it's hard or anything, but I just found his method too slow, like teaching kids or old people. It's like my brain didn't get enough stimulation. But it's good for retention and building foundation I guess.

      Originally posted by -Jibril- View Post
      Agreed, I've dropped out so many times due to this very same reason..

      I've just started Bayna Yadayk and am finding it easy to pick up.

      Each to their own I guess, some find it easy, some hard.
      Is it true that bayna yadayk is intended more toward intermediate students?
      Last edited by budi.sudaryo; 22-03-15, 10:38 PM.
      I'm on a strict time management regiment and have to limit my time online. Therefore I have to reply selectively. Please don't be offended if I ignore your questions. :jkk:

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        #18
        Re: Arabic Watsapp Group

        Originally posted by budi.sudaryo View Post
        I "dropped out" from Medina Books before finishing book 1. Not because it's hard or anything, but I just found his method too slow, like teaching kids or old people. It's like my brain didn't get enough stimulation. But it's good for retention and building foundation I guess.



        Is it true that bayna yadayk is intended more toward intermediate students?
        Not really akhi, I don't understand why they wrote that on their blurb.
        Book 1 starts with salam, what's your name? Introducing yourself, introducing someone else etc.
        I'd say it's perfect for the beginner, especially someone who doesn't prefer the way Madina Book is structured.
        There is rest only in the aakhira.
        Man will rest in the aakhira according to how hard he strives in dunya.

        - Khaalid Ibn Al Waleed (ra) -

        If you find yourself in a time where speech is regarded as knowledge,
        and knowledge is regarded as deeds,
        then you are in the worst of times, with the worst of people.

        - Abu Hazim Al Ashja'i (ra) -

        I saw a dog without any clothes on .
        That's right, a nude dog.
        The Deepweb is disgusting.
        - Unknown -


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          #19
          Re: Arabic Watsapp Group

          Please can you add me to this group please akhi in sha Allah

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            #20
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              #21
              Re: Arabic Watsapp Group

              is this for brothers only, id really like to join...
              وَالْعَصْرِ

              إِنَّ الْإِنسَانَ لَفِي خُسْرٍ

              إِلَّا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالْحَقِّ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالصَّبْرِ

              "If Allah (swt) only sent this Surah to us, for the guidance of Mankind, this will be enough for us” - Imam Shaafi'ee r.a.

              "Yeh dunya daar e faani hain, Tum apna dil mat lagaon, Ganimat samaj zinadagee ki bahar, aana na hoga, yahaa baar baar......"

              Khanqah Habibiyah

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                #22
                Re: Arabic Watsapp Group

                Originally posted by AbuMubarak View Post
                i know this may not be the norm, but i have major issues with using the "madina book" for starters

                it just doesnt work

                you dont learn a language by learning grammar first, you learn by using words, piece by piece until you can make an intelligible sentence, then you learn to properly construct a sentence and THEN you learn grammar and the rules

                this is the way we all learned our mother tongue, NOT by learning the rules of grammar first, you didnt do that until you were about 7-10 years old

                for some reason, someone thinks you can learn arabic by learning grammar first, and for native arabs, that may be needed because they have learned their colloquial arabic first, so they need to relearn the proper syntax of fus'ha

                non arabs find the madina book the hardest, YET, thats the way everyone wants to teach them
                I think it is important to understand that the author was a non-arab may allah raise his rank . The mode of study of non-arabs has always been very grammar oriented. The reason being that such mode of study allows the student to understand texts faster but it isn't great for overall language development. Hence non-arabs aren't great at balagha whilst being experts at grammar and syntax.

                non arab arabic speaker has more mutoon/rules memorised the average arabic speaker yet his linguistic skill sounds very stiff and not fluid.

                I think if you are going to do something like this you should focus on conversation and build language skills in the same manner a child does as AbuM mentioned
                The idea behind studying a language

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                  #23
                  Re: Arabic Watsapp Group

                  Originally posted by Jenicca View Post
                  is this for brothers only, id really like to join...
                  sisters can join as well.

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                    #24
                    Re: Arabic Watsapp Group

                    Assalam o Alykum to all,

                    I am very much interested to learn Arabic and I have very good material and I can share free of cost. Actually I am not so expert on whatsapp. I used whatsapp but I do not know how to join any group. can any one help me to add me on whatsapp. my cell phone is 00923218283229.
                    Jaza Kallah
                    Ismail Shah

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                      #25
                      Re: Arabic Watsapp Group

                      :salams

                      I don't think it's appropriate to have brothers and sisters on the same Whatsapp group.

                      Brothers should teach brothers and sisters teach sisters :insha:

                      Someone showed me a screenshot of the group and there were too many ":D" and ":D" being used between brothers and sisters.

                      I realize it's a good effort and convenient to learn Arabic, but we still need to be mindful of free-mixing. :insha:

                      :jkk:
                      Secure few moments, everyday, to reflect upon the innumerable blessings of Allah and thank Him for bestowing them upon you.

                      "A person who is blessed with the ability to be grateful, shall never be deprived of barakah and increase in blessings."
                      - Rasulullah (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم)‎

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                        #26
                        Re: Arabic Watsapp Group

                        :1popcorn:
                        There is rest only in the aakhira.
                        Man will rest in the aakhira according to how hard he strives in dunya.

                        - Khaalid Ibn Al Waleed (ra) -

                        If you find yourself in a time where speech is regarded as knowledge,
                        and knowledge is regarded as deeds,
                        then you are in the worst of times, with the worst of people.

                        - Abu Hazim Al Ashja'i (ra) -

                        I saw a dog without any clothes on .
                        That's right, a nude dog.
                        The Deepweb is disgusting.
                        - Unknown -


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                        The Middle Road - At-Tanzil - Hifz Thread - Muslim Healthy Living
                        Inheritors of Qur'aan

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                          #27
                          Re: Arabic Watsapp Group

                          Originally posted by .mirror. View Post
                          :salams

                          I don't think it's appropriate to have brothers and sisters on the same Whatsapp group.

                          Brothers should teach brothers and sisters teach sisters :insha:

                          Someone showed me a screenshot of the group and there were too many ":D" and ":D" being used between brothers and sisters.

                          I realize it's a good effort and convenient to learn Arabic, but we still need to be mindful of free-mixing. :insha:

                          :jkk:
                          :wswrwb:

                          Yea, what he said. Brothers make one group, and sisters can make their own group. Having one group is very dangerous, don't make me investigate and start infracting and banning people. Please take the advice.
                          "Allah's choicest people are those whom His fear has driven to absolute silence although they are neither helpless nor dumb. Rather they are possessors of eloquence and have power to speak and sense to understand. But constant glorification of Allah's name has so overpossessed their wits that their hearts are overawed and their lips sealed. When they get established in this stage they hasten towards righteoussness."

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                            #28
                            Re: Arabic Watsapp Group

                            Originally posted by -Jibril- View Post
                            Agreed, I've dropped out so many times due to this very same reason..

                            I've just started Bayna Yadayk and am finding it easy to pick up.

                            Each to their own I guess, some find it easy, some hard.
                            Are you self studying or with a teacher? what lesson are you on?

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                            Allahumma anta Rabbi la ilaha illa anta Khalaqtani wa ana'abduka, wa ana 'ala 'ahdika wa Wa'dika mastata'tu A'uidhubika min sharri ma sana'tu.' abu'u Laka bi ni 'matika wa'ala abu'u bidhanbi; faghfirli fa'innahu la yaghfiru-dh-dhunuba illa anta.
                            O Allah, You are my Lord, none has the right to be worshipped except You, You created me and I am Your servant and I abide to Your covenant and promise as best I can, I take refuge in You from the evil of which I have committed. I acknowledge Your favour upon me and I acknowledgemy sin, so forgive me, for verilynone can forgive sin except You.



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                              #29
                              Re: Arabic Watsapp Group

                              Originally posted by Ansaariyah View Post
                              Are you self studying or with a teacher? what lesson are you on?
                              With a teacher, fourth lesson next week inn sha Allah.
                              Our previous teacher got busy and started missing lessons, so our Tajweed teacher's taken over.
                              I think if I complete this book, Madina Book will be easier to deal with inn sha Allah.
                              There is rest only in the aakhira.
                              Man will rest in the aakhira according to how hard he strives in dunya.

                              - Khaalid Ibn Al Waleed (ra) -

                              If you find yourself in a time where speech is regarded as knowledge,
                              and knowledge is regarded as deeds,
                              then you are in the worst of times, with the worst of people.

                              - Abu Hazim Al Ashja'i (ra) -

                              I saw a dog without any clothes on .
                              That's right, a nude dog.
                              The Deepweb is disgusting.
                              - Unknown -


                              Links
                              The Middle Road - At-Tanzil - Hifz Thread - Muslim Healthy Living
                              Inheritors of Qur'aan

                              Download Links




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                                #30
                                Re: Arabic Watsapp Group

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