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  • Did God become man?

    What if you woke up today with only the things you thanked Allah for yesterday?

    We worry about tomorrow as if its guaranteed

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    Re: Did God become man?

    TL;DW: No.
    Say what somebody can do instead of the haram if you want to help.

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      Re: Did God become man?

      This is one of the crazy beliefs of the Mushrikun.

      The belief itself is self refuting,

      If God became Man, then he is no longer God anymore,

      Absurd Mushrikun beliefs
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      "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

      – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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        Re: Did God become man?

        Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
        This is one of the crazy beliefs of the Mushrikun.

        The belief itself is self refuting,

        If God became Man, then he is no longer God anymore,

        Absurd Mushrikun beliefs
        It's not crazy and don't be so rude. Implying people are insane who struggle to pull away from this belief. I struggle with it and I don't have any mental health issues thanks.

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          Re: Did God become man?

          Originally posted by drberks View Post
          It's not crazy and don't be so rude. Implying people are insane who struggle to pull away from this belief. I struggle with it and I don't have any mental health issues thanks.
          Peace be upon those who receive Guidance,

          It is ..

          I didn't elaborate fully, but I will now,

          God is Perfect, Uncreated, Eternal, All Knowing, All Powerful,

          To claim that God became Man, became Imperfect, limited power, part of Creation, limited knowledge,

          He would no longer be God as he ceased to have the aforementioned qualities.

          Mushrikun like Christians and other pagans however make the absurd claim that he's Perfect and Imperfect at the same time

          All powerful and Weak at the same time

          All knowing and having Limited knowledge at the same time,

          Uncreated and Createdat the same time,

          God and Man at the same time,

          These are opposites,

          The existence or one quality negates the other,

          So the whole belief is self refuting.

          Regards
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          "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

          – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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          • #6
            Re: Did God become man?

            Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
            Peace be upon those who receive Guidance,

            It is ..

            I didn't elaborate fully, but I will now,

            God is Perfect, Uncreated, Eternal, All Knowing, All Powerful,

            To claim that God became Man, became Imperfect, limited power, part of Creation, limited knowledge,

            He would no longer be God as he ceased to have the aforementioned qualities.

            Mushrikun like Christians and other pagans however make the absurd claim that he's Perfect and Imperfect at the same time

            All powerful and Weak at the same time

            All knowing and having Limited knowledge at the same time,

            Uncreated and Createdat the same time,

            God and Man at the same time,

            These are opposites,

            The existence or one quality negates the other,

            So the whole belief is self refuting.

            Regards
            Yes and it SEEMS simple to YOU. Each of us could make the others beliefs SEEM ridiculous but each of us knows, there are explanations that make sense for these points you've mentioned so it's not so black and white as that, otherwise regular, educated people wouldn't struggle with it.

            Your position is...you think it's easy so everyone who believes it must have mental health issues. Can you not see that shows your lack of understanding of the complex issues. You're acting like a parrot simply repeating a list.

            How's that supposed to help someone like me....? You repeating a list and implying I must be stupid or something for not seeing how easy it is.

            Honestly, you can be impossible sometimes smh
            Last edited by Rifqah; 02-10-16, 12:51 PM.

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              Re: Did God become man?

              Dberks you understand what an Opposite is?

              If I tell you it's Day here AND Night,

              One of the statement is false,

              Days means it aint Night, and Night means it aint Day, they are Opposites,

              A Mushrik cannot say God is Perfect AND Imperfect at the same time,

              Perfect means he isn't Imperfect, and Imperfect means he isn't Perfect,

              Opposites

              Similarly you cannot say God is Created AND Uncreated at the same time,

              Because Created means he isn't Uncreated/Eternal, and vice versa,

              They are Opposite attributes,

              Same way you can't say God is All-knowing AND having Limited-knowledge,

              All-knowing means he has complete knowledge of All matters,

              Limited knowledge means he only has knowledge about certain matters,

              Once again these are opposites, one statement negates the other,
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              "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

              – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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                Re: Did God become man?

                Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
                Dberks you understand what an Opposite is?

                If I tell you it's Day here AND Night,

                One of the statement is false,

                Days means it aint Night, and Night means it aint Day, they are Opposites,

                A Mushrik cannot say God is Perfect AND Imperfect at the same time,

                Perfect means he isn't Imperfect, and Imperfect means he isn't Perfect,

                Opposites

                Similarly you cannot say God is Created AND Uncreated at the same time,

                Because Created means he isn't Uncreated/Eternal, and vice versa,

                They are Opposite attributes,

                Same way you can't say God is All-knowing AND having Limited-knowledge,

                All-knowing means he has complete knowledge of All matters,

                Limited knowledge means he only has knowledge about certain matters,

                Once again these are opposites, one statement negates the other,
                I'm not getting into this with you. You have zero ability to understand another persons position. And you're making me feel stupid bcs I can't agree with you immediately.

                Edit: and you're STILL just repeating a list talking AT me not TO me.
                Last edited by Rifqah; 02-10-16, 01:05 PM.

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                  Re: Did God become man?

                  Originally posted by drberks View Post
                  I'm not getting into this with you. You have zero ability to understand another persons position. And you're making me feel stupid bcs I can't agree with you immediately.
                  Did you understand what I just said?

                  Opposites cannot be combined, one negates the existence of the other,

                  It's like saying Disbeliever and a Believer at the same time,

                  One of the statement has to be false, as each one negates the other,

                  I hope you understand, this wasn't an attack on you, but to show you the fallacy of the Belief that God became Man.

                  Regards
                  Last edited by Saif-Uddin; 02-10-16, 01:13 PM.
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                  "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

                  – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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                    Re: Did God become man?

                    Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
                    Did you understand what I just said?

                    Opposites cannot be combined, one negates the existence of the other,

                    It's like saying Disbeliever and a Believer at the same time,

                    One of the statement has to be false, as each one negates the other,

                    I hope you understand, this wasn't an attack on you, but to show you the fallacy of the Belief that God became Man.

                    Regards
                    Like I said....zero ability.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Did God become man?

                      Originally posted by drberks View Post
                      Like I said....zero ability.
                      So you think God is Perfect AND Imperfect at the same time?

                      Didn't the Bible say come let us reason?
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                      "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

                      – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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                      • #12
                        Re: Did God become man?

                        Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
                        So you think God is Perfect AND Imperfect at the same time?

                        Didn't the Bible say come let us reason?
                        Yes it does and it's referring to a human and his Lord....

                        You are not being reasonable in this instance, so how could you and I reason!?

                        When a man is cross or upset I know to leave him alone. Sometimes the same applies to a woman.

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                          Re: Did God become man?

                          Originally posted by drberks View Post
                          Yes it does and it's referring to a human and his Lord....

                          You are not being reasonable in this instance, so how could you and I reason!?

                          When a man is cross or upset I know to leave him alone. Sometimes the same applies to a woman.
                          Pretty sure it was tellingt's believers to reason, not run away, or have tantrums,

                          How was I not being reasonable?

                          I just used basic common sense, reasoning to show that one cannot be perfect and Imperfect at the same time,

                          If you understand what an opposite is, then you know a man can Never be God,

                          Regards
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                          "It does not befit the lion to answer the dogs."

                          – Imam al-Shafi’i (Rahimahullah)

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                            Re: Did God become man?

                            Originally posted by Saif-Uddin View Post
                            Pretty sure it was tellingt's believers to reason, not run away, or have tantrums,

                            How was I not being reasonable?

                            I just used basic common sense, reasoning to show that one cannot be perfect and Imperfect at the same time,

                            If you understand what an opposite is, then you know a man can Never be God,

                            Regards
                            Are you sure you don't want to add the word hysterical next to the word tantrum. We'd have ourselves a hat-trick then. Crazy, tantrum and hysterical.

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                              Re: Did God become man?

                              Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."

                              That's the verse you mean. It's not between two human individuals. The whole of Isaiah 1 is addressed to nation Israel (apparently) and then also to the wider sinful populace. Reasoning happens in a court of law and there is other legal language employed all the way through this chapter suggesting its context. So say Hebrew scholars.

                              Just info seeing as you introduced this verse earlier.
                              Last edited by Rifqah; 02-10-16, 05:06 PM.

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