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    Re: What Jihad? You can't even wake up for fajr

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    • #3
      Re: What Jihad? You can't even wake up for fajr

      Looks like he is more TJ and Sufi than he would like to think.

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      • #4
        Re: What Jihad? You can't even wake up for fajr

        Originally posted by SeekingIhsan View Post
        Looks like he is more TJ and Sufi than he would like to think.
        what's TK?


        Avoid excessive laughter and useless arguments as they harden the heart and lead to heedlessness.

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        • #5
          Re: What Jihad? You can't even wake up for fajr

          so jihad is not incumbent upon people who struggle with praying fajr?
          .لا نريد زعيما يخاف البيت الإبيض
          نريد زعيما يخاف الواحد الأحد
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          • #6
            Re: What Jihad? You can't even wake up for fajr

            Originally posted by SeekingIhsan View Post
            Looks like he is more TJ and Sufi than he would like to think.
            he never said that they were totally bad. like the majority of ulema, he said that the TJ moment is mixing haqq with some bidah or baatil in some cases.

            also lets not call it sufi. salah is not a sufi thing, or a salafi thing, neither is jihad, neither is dhiker. its all sunnah. we have to stop associating things with a sect.
            painful torment? (10) (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwellings in Adn (Edn) Paradise; that is indeed the great success. (12)

            JazakAllah khair for the duas but i would prefer duas for shahadah instead.

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            • #7
              Re: What Jihad? You can't even wake up for fajr

              Originally posted by uncle umar View Post
              he never said that they were totally bad. like the majority of ulema, he said that the TJ moment is mixing haqq with some bidah or baatil in some cases.

              also lets not call it sufi. salah is not a sufi thing, or a salafi thing, neither is jihad, neither is dhiker. its all sunnah. we have to stop associating things with a sect.
              well said .
              Where there are no Ulemah(Scholars) there are many Muftis.

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              • #8
                Re: What Jihad? You can't even wake up for fajr

                agree with brother abu mubarak

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                • #9
                  Re: What Jihad? You can't even wake up for fajr

                  hmmm ... so if a guy can wake up lets say once a month then jihad is not necessary? ....

                  i never got this logic.



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                  • #10
                    Re: What Jihad? You can't even wake up for fajr

                    typo

                    CAN'T**



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                    • #11
                      Re: What Jihad? You can't even wake up for fajr

                      Originally posted by uncle umar View Post
                      he never said that they were totally bad. like the majority of ulema, he said that the TJ moment is mixing haqq with some bidah or baatil in some cases.

                      also lets not call it sufi. salah is not a sufi thing, or a salafi thing, neither is jihad, neither is dhiker. its all sunnah. we have to stop associating things with a sect.
                      I think you misunderstood my point but never mind.

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                      • #12
                        Re: What Jihad? You can't even wake up for fajr

                        Originally posted by AbuMubarak View Post
                        so jihad is not incumbent upon people who struggle with praying fajr?
                        Originally posted by Abdur.Rahman View Post
                        agree with brother abu mubarak
                        Originally posted by noobz View Post
                        hmmm ... so if a guy can wake up lets say once a month then jihad is not necessary? ....

                        i never got this logic.
                        Originally posted by SeekingIhsan View Post
                        Looks like he is more TJ and Sufi than he would like to think.

                        I think you’ve all misunderstood. He never belittled Jihad what so ever. He even made it a point to say "No one can deny Jihad, It is in the Quran, it's in the Sunnah and infact It's the peak of Islam"
                        What he is saying is people don’t even have enough discipline to forsake a couple of minutes of sleep every morning to prevent themselves from entering the hellfire………so defiantly they don’t have the discipline for the harsh conditions, realities and situations of Jihad and to carry Jihad out in the way it was meant to be carried out. This statement is perfectly logical and the truth. If you don’t have enough Iman to get up for 10 minutes every morning and pray, how are you going to have enough Iman to be struggling against the enemy on the battlefield putting your life on the line.

                        The Analogy he gave for this is perfect "Muslims first have to graduate from the children’s school so that they become men. Once they become Men no one can play games with us on the battle field, this Is known"
                        This statement/analogy is also very true. You can’t expect someone can’t be bothered to wake of for fajir all of the sudden willingly go out of his way and put his life on the line for the sake of Allah. Saying otherwise is denying the truth.

                        He later continues "And how do we get there? By going back to the way our righteous predecessors practiced Islam. How did they practice Islam? By following Islam according to the Sunnah"
                        Again, nothing wrong with what he said. Nothing but the truth.

                        He then finished off with the Ayah which states that if you aid Allah’s deen, Allah will aid you, give you victory and plant your fete firm.

                        We Muslims want victory but we don’t want to aid Allah’s deen based on the Quran and Sunnah according to the understanding of the salaf. It doesn’t work that way.


                        Absolutely nothing he said in the video was wrong. This is a case of people hearing what they want to hear or purposely minsterpreting what the man said because of some hidden agenda or they really didn’t understand, and we assume best of our brothers and sisters.
                        Last edited by Glow; 04-02-12, 07:03 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Re: What Jihad? You can't even wake up for fajr

                          to summarize it all, "we cant do jihad because we are nor spiritually, and religiously ready." so anyone ready for jihad or are in jihad, should not do it because there are fellow muslims dont wake up for fajr. hypocrisy

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                            Re: What Jihad? You can't even wake up for fajr

                            Originally posted by Abdur.Rahman View Post
                            to summarize it all, "we cant do jihad because we are nor spiritually, and religiously ready." so anyone ready for jihad or are in jihad, should not do it because there are fellow muslims dont wake up for fajr. hypocrisy
                            how can one who dosent have the eeman to wake up for fajr have the eeman to die for god, who he has never seen?

                            or have the eeman to actually believe that after he gets shot to death, he goes to jennah?
                            painful torment? (10) (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwellings in Adn (Edn) Paradise; that is indeed the great success. (12)

                            JazakAllah khair for the duas but i would prefer duas for shahadah instead.

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                            • #15
                              Re: What Jihad? You can't even wake up for fajr

                              Originally posted by Glow View Post
                              This is a case of people hearing what they want to hear or purposely minsterpreting what the man said because of some hidden agenda or they really didn’t understand, and we assume best of our brothers and sisters.
                              You just did the above by posting this, anyhow...

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