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    some will reply saying this is not sufism it has nothing to do with it bla bla bla, do you ever read/hear/see any of the so called "true" sufis of today coming out in public refuting such acts? because the dancers in the clip are doing it in the name of sufism, so where are the "real" sufis? the truth is, sufis of today do it and even if they do not do it they approve of it and find nothing wrong with it...
    and this practice in the video clip is widespread among sufis.........bottom line is, beware of sufism......be content with Qur'an, Sunnah & the way of the Sahabah and the Salaf.....

    show me where did any of the 4 Imams dance like that, that too with women!!! and they call it Islam!!!!
    "Be A Lamp, A Lifeboat, A Ladder, Help Someone's Soul Heal. Walk Out Of Your House Like A Shepherd" - Rumi

  • #2
    Re: in the name of Islam!!!!

    in my opinion
    this is definetly not islam....

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    • #3
      Re: in the name of Islam!!!!

      Originally posted by aproudmuslim View Post
      in my opinion
      this is definetly not islam....
      that is the thing brother, such acts are not from Islam and yet we do not see any so called "true" sufi refuting them, why?????
      "Be A Lamp, A Lifeboat, A Ladder, Help Someone's Soul Heal. Walk Out Of Your House Like A Shepherd" - Rumi

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      • #4
        Re: in the name of Islam!!!!

        nice tayyiboon. shed some more light for us engulfed in darkness what the true sufis also approve of.
        Rajab is a month of cultivation

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        • #5
          Re: in the name of Islam!!!!

          Originally posted by Medievalist View Post
          nice tayyiboon. shed some more light for us engulfed in darkness what the true sufis also approve of.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Places_...ngalore#Dargas

          Some excerpts:

          There are 24 darghas (darghas are Sufi shrines built over the grave of revered religious figures) in Bangalore and the popular ones are the Kambal Posh Darga (Old Broadway), Hazarat Tawakkal Mastan Shah Darga (Cottonpet) and Besarwali Shahi Darga (Cubbonpet). The Tawakkal Mastan, in particular, has a legend which has a Hindu linkage as it is associated with a local Hindu festival called karaga.......
          Worship only the CREATOR, HE is One and HE is the SUSTAINER of the Universe. Do not worship any of HIS creations nor through HIS creations

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          • #6
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            http://www.ahya.org/amm/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=191
            Worship only the CREATOR, HE is One and HE is the SUSTAINER of the Universe. Do not worship any of HIS creations nor through HIS creations

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            • #7
              Re: in the name of Islam!!!!

              Originally posted by Medievalist View Post
              nice tayyiboon. shed some more light for us engulfed in darkness what the true sufis also approve of.
              whether you are being sarcastic or not i dont know, but the fact is, I have never seen any so called "true" sufi coming out in public and rejecting these acts which are so widespread!! i wonder why!!!
              "Be A Lamp, A Lifeboat, A Ladder, Help Someone's Soul Heal. Walk Out Of Your House Like A Shepherd" - Rumi

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              • #8
                Re: in the name of Islam!!!!

                Amusing that he has not met the real sufi ever and here he comes blaming the sufis totally.

                Do something useful and instead of posting some useless so namely by them as sufi.Post what the "True" sufi say and if you don't find them then keep your mouth close, rather than posting or rather showing the sins of your fellow muslims.

                Learn to live peacefully and in an islamic way.
                صلى الله على حبيبه محمد و على آله و أصحابه و سلم
                Al-Muslimeen

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                • #9
                  Re: in the name of Islam!!!!

                  Originally posted by tayyiboon View Post


                  some will reply saying this is not sufism it has nothing to do with it bla bla bla, do you ever read/hear/see any of the so called "true" sufis of today coming out in public refuting such acts? because the dancers in the clip are doing it in the name of sufism, so where are the "real" sufis? the truth is, sufis of today do it and even if they do not do it they approve of it and find nothing wrong with it...
                  and this practice in the video clip is widespread among sufis.........bottom line is, beware of sufism......be content with Qur'an, Sunnah & the way of the Sahabah and the Salaf.....

                  show me where did any of the 4 Imams dance like that, that too with women!!! and they call it Islam!!!!
                  :salams
                  Here u go www.syedanzarshah.com

                  Search for tauheed and shirk bayan total 10 parts
                  And he is bayah to shaykh zulfiqar ahmad naqshbandi db

                  I dare u to show me a scholar like him who has spoken so harshly against such ppl.

                  Next time u come here n post something do listen to all 10 parts if u dont then dont ask for daleel etc

                  Secondly i gave u the Q&A section of shaykh zulfiqar ahmad naqshbandi db did u see the ques about dancing arnd graves etc and the answer to it ? No u didnt ? So in shory some salafies like u ask fr daleel etc n when given to them they dnt read it and continue blabbng on forum, strets

                  In short your a time waste
                  How is it that those people are most beautiful who pray at night? Because they are alone with the All-Merciful who covers them with light from His light.
                  HASAN IBN AL - GRANDSON OF THE PROPHET
                  :saw:

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                  • #10
                    Re: in the name of Islam!!!!

                    Originally posted by SOA7007 View Post
                    :salams


                    In short your a time waste
                    وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

                    sorry brother but you did not reply to me about becoming slaves infront of the sheikhs and actually defended that, so you are a waste of time because you believe in blind following...
                    "Be A Lamp, A Lifeboat, A Ladder, Help Someone's Soul Heal. Walk Out Of Your House Like A Shepherd" - Rumi

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                    • #11
                      Re: in the name of Islam!!!!

                      Originally posted by tayyiboon View Post


                      some will reply saying this is not sufism it has nothing to do with it bla bla bla, do you ever read/hear/see any of the so called "true" sufis of today coming out in public refuting such acts? because the dancers in the clip are doing it in the name of sufism, so where are the "real" sufis? the truth is, sufis of today do it and even if they do not do it they approve of it and find nothing wrong with it...
                      and this practice in the video clip is widespread among sufis.........bottom line is, beware of sufism......be content with Qur'an, Sunnah & the way of the Sahabah and the Salaf.....

                      show me where did any of the 4 Imams dance like that, that too with women!!! and they call it Islam!!!!
                      Why dont you simply show us all and prove that they are sufi :) and show us from Sufi writings that this is valid please , go ahead we are all waiting :D .

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                      • #12
                        Re: in the name of Islam!!!!

                        Originally posted by tayyiboon View Post
                        وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

                        sorry brother but you did not reply to me about becoming slaves infront of the sheikhs and actually defended that, so you are a waste of time because you believe in blind following...
                        :salams

                        First of all we are Slaves of Allah , we never for a sec think we r slaves of sheikh .. and Allah SWT alone knows the intentio of our hearts and u dont tayiboon

                        Secondly since u are the one thinking as Slaves of Sheikh so the sin falls upon u not us .

                        Thridly u have been given the reply but since your intellceual level is very low so u cannot grasp the message that has been told to you .

                        I gave u the hadith : Beware of the insight of beleiver ................ what did u understand from it ? do u think anyone walking on street with a turban on his head has that ???/

                        Do u know what marifa is ?

                        and u still havnt stated ur opinions about whats the pious predecessors / scholars ( May Allah be pleased withthem all ) have said about sufism ?

                        Tayibooon u didnt reply in previous post and this post too u will never reply .. do u consider them deviated too ?
                        How is it that those people are most beautiful who pray at night? Because they are alone with the All-Merciful who covers them with light from His light.
                        HASAN IBN AL - GRANDSON OF THE PROPHET
                        :saw:

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                        • #13
                          Re: in the name of Islam!!!!

                          http://www.progressiveislam.org/sufi...r_very_closely
                          Worship only the CREATOR, HE is One and HE is the SUSTAINER of the Universe. Do not worship any of HIS creations nor through HIS creations

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                          • #14
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                            So these Pious Prdecessors / scholars ( may Allah be please with wtih them ) were praising hinduism ???

                            <center>http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/earschtas.htm
                            Scholars on Sufism (Tasawwuf)</center>
                            <hr> The following quotations of the scholars of Shariah regarding the precedence of the knowledge and science of Tasawwuf (Purification of the Self).

                            Imam Abu Hanifa (85 H. - 150 H)
                            "If it were not for two years, I would have perished." He said, "for two years I accompanied Sayyidina Ja'far as-Sadiq and I acquired the spiritual knowledge that made me a gnostic in the Way."
                            [Ad-Durr al-Mukhtar, vol 1. p. 43]


                            Imam Malik (95 H. - 179 H.)
                            "whoever studies Jurisprudence [tafaqaha] and didn't study Sufism [tasawwaf] will be corrupted; and whoever studied Sufism and didn't study Jurisprudence will become a heretic; and whoever combined both will reach the Truth."
                            ['Ali al-Adawi , vol. 2, p 195.]


                            Imam Shafi'i (150 - 205 AH.)
                            "I accompanied the Sufi people and I received from them three knowledges: ...how to speak; how to treat people with leniency and a soft heart... and they... guided me in the ways of Sufism."
                            [Kashf al-Khafa, 'Ajluni, vol. 1, p 341.]


                            Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal (164 - 241 AH.)
                            "O my son, you have to sit with the People of Sufism, because they are like a fountain of knowledge and they keep the Remembrance of Allah in their hearts. they are the ascetics and they have the most spiritual power."
                            [Tanwir al-Qulub p. 405]


                            Imam Ghazzali (450 - 505 AH.)
                            "I knew verily that Sufis are the seekers in Allah's Way, and their conduct is the best conduct, and their way is the best way, and their manners are the most sanctified. They have cleaned their hearts from other than Allah and they have made them as pathways for rivers to run receiving knowledge of the Divine Presence."
                            [al-Munqidh, p. 131].


                            Fakhr ad-Din ar-Razi (544 - 606 AH)
                            "The way of Sufis for seeking Knowledge, is to disconnect themselves from this worldly life, and they keep themselves constantly busy with Dhikrullah, in all their actions and behaviors."
                            ['Itiqadaat Furaq al-Muslimeen, p. 72, 73]


                            Imam Nawawi (620 - 676 AH.)
                            "The specifications of the Way of the Sufis are ... to keep the Presence of Allah in your heart in public and in private; to follow the Sunnah of the Prophet (s) ... to be happy with what Allah gave you..."
                            [in his Letters, (Maqasid at-tawhid), p. 20]


                            Ibn Taymiyya (661 - 728 AH)
                            "Tasawwuf has realities and states of experience which they talk about in their science. Some of it is that the Sufi is that one who purifies himself from anything which distracts him from the remembrance of Allah and who will be so filled up with knowledge of the heart and knowledge of the mind to the point that the value of gold and stones will be the same to him. And Tasawwuf is safeguarding the precious meanings and leaving behind the call to fame and vanity in order to reach the state of Truthfulness, because the best of humans after the prophets are the Siddiqeen, as Allah mentioned them in the verse:
                            "(And all who obey Allah and the Apostle) are in the company of those on whom is the grace of Allah: of the prophets, the sincere lovers of truth, the martyrs and the righteous; Ah! what a beautiful fellowship." (an-Nisa', 69,70)

                            "...some people criticised Sufiyya and Tasawwuf and they said they were innovators, out of the Sunnah, but the truth is they are striving in Allah's obedience [mujtahidin fi ta'at-illahi], as others of Allah's People strove in Allah's obedience. So from them you will find the Foremost in Nearness by virtue of his striving [as-saabiq ul-muqarrab bi hasab ijtihadihi]. And some of them are from the People of the Right hand [Ahl al-Yameen mentioned in Qur'an in Sura Waqi'ah], but slower in their progress.... And this is the origin of Tasawwuf. And after that origin, it has been spread and [tasha'abat wa tanawa'at] has its main line and its branches.
                            [Majmu'a Fatawa Ibn Taymiyya al-Kubra, Vol. 11, Book of Tasawwuf, p. 497].

                            "The miracles of saints are absolutely true and correct, by the acceptance of all Muslim scholars. And the Qur'an has pointed to it in different places, and the Hadith of the Prophet (s) has mentioned it, and whoever denies the miraculous power of saints are only people who are innovators and their followers." [al-Mukhtasar al-Fatawa, page 603]. Ibn Taymiyya says, "what is considered as a miracle for a saint is that sometimes the saint might hear something that others do not hear and they might see something that others do not see, while not in a sleeping state, but in a wakened state of vision. And he can know something that others cannot know, through revelation or inspiration."
                            [Majmu'a Fatawi Ibn Taymiyya, Vol. 11, p. 314].


                            Ibn Khaldun (733 - 808 AH.)
                            "The way of the Sufis is the way of the Salaf, the preceding Scholars between the Sahaba and Tabi'een of those who followed good guidance..."
                            [Muqaddimat ibn al-Khaldun, p. 328]


                            Tajuddin as-Subki (727 - 771 AH.)
                            "May Allah praise them [the Sufis] and greet them and may Allah cause us to be with them in Paradise. Too many things havebeen said about them and too many ignorant people have said things which are not related to them. And the truth is that those people left the world and were busy with worship. ...They are the People of Allah, whose supplications and prayer Allah accepts and by means of whom Allah supports human beings"
                            [Mu'eed an-Na'am p. 190, the chapter entitled Tasawwuf]


                            Jalaluddin as-Suyuti (849 - 911 AH.)
                            "At-Tasawwuf in itself is the best and most honorable knowledge. It explains how to follow the Sunnah of the Prophet (s) and to put aside innovation."
                            [Ta'yid al-Haqiqat al-'Aliyya,p 57]


                            Ibn Qayyim (691 - 751 AH.)
                            "We can witness the greatness of the People of Sufism, in the eyes of the earliest generations of Muslims by what has been mentioned by Sufyan ath-Thawri (d. 161 AH), one of the greatest imams of the second century and one of the foremost legal scholars. He said, "If it had not been for Abu Hisham as-Sufi (d. 115) I would never have perceived the action of the subtlest forms of hypocrisy in the self... Among the best of people is the Sufi learned in jurisprudence."
                            [Manazil as-Sa'ireen.]


                            Abdullah ibn Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab (1115 - 1201 AH.)
                            "My father Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab and I do not deny or criticize the science of Sufism, but on the contrary we support it, because it purifies the external and the internal of the hidden sins, which are related to the heart and to the outward form. Even though the individual might externally be on the right way, internally he might be on the wrong way. Sufism is necessary to correct it."
                            [ad-Dia'at mukathaffa did ash-shaykh ibn Abdul Wahhab, p. 85]


                            Ibn 'Abidin (1198 - 1252 AH.)
                            "The Seekers in this Sufi Way don't hear except from the Divine Presence and they don't love any but Him. If they remember Him they cry, and if they thank Him they are happy; ... May Allah bless them."
                            [Risa'il Ibn 'Abidin p. 172 & 173]


                            Muhammad 'Abduh (1265 - 1323 AH.)
                            "Tasawwuf appeared in the first century of Islam and it received a tremendous honor. It purified the self and straightened the conduct and gave knowledge to people from the Wisdom and Secrets of the Divine Presence."
                            [Majallat al-Muslim, 6th ed. 1378 H, p. 24].


                            Maulana Abul Hasan 'Ali an-Nadawi (1331 AH b.)
                            "These Sufis were initiating people on Oneness and sincerity in following the Sunnah of the Prophet (s) and to repent from their sins and to be away from every disobedience of Allah 'Azza wa Jall. Their guides were encouraging them to move in the way of perfect Love to Allah 'Azza wa Jall.
                            "...In Calcutta India, everyday more than 1000 people were taking initiation into Sufism. "...by the influence of these Sufi people, thousands and thousands and hundreds of thousands in India found their Lord and reached a state of Perfection through the Islamic religion."
                            [Muslims in India, p. 140-146]

                            Maulana Abul 'Ala Maudoodi (1321 - 1399 AH.)
                            "Sufism is a reality whose signs are the love of Allah and the love of the Prophet (saw), where one absents oneself for their sake, and one is annihilated from anything other than them, and it is to know how to follow the footsteps of the Prophet (s). ..Tasawwuf searched for the sincerity in the heart and the purity in the intention and the trustworthiness in obedience in an individual's actions."
                            "The Divine Law and Sufism: "Sufism and Shariah: what is the similitude of the two? They are like the body and the soul. The body is the external knowledge, the Divine Law, and the spirit is the internal knowledge."
                            [Mabadi' al-Islam, p. 17]
                            How is it that those people are most beautiful who pray at night? Because they are alone with the All-Merciful who covers them with light from His light.
                            HASAN IBN AL - GRANDSON OF THE PROPHET
                            :saw:

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