Former Shiah refutes Mot'ah marriage (Temporary Marriage)

[Divine Love]

Re: Former Shiah refutes Mot'ah marriage (Temporary Marriage)

The highest oxymoron (if ever there was one).

What's your point in posting that? War of words?
Please don't post garbage if you don't have asnwer.
This is the type of respond I get from a sunni when he has nothing to confront the strong logics of Shia.

[Peacenik]

Re: Former Shiah refutes Mot'ah marriage (Temporary Marriage)

...greatest shia' Leaders.

The highest oxymoron (if ever there was one).

[Divine Love]

Re: Former Shiah refutes Mot'ah marriage (Temporary Marriage)

Ok, I should correct myself.
It was Umar who forbiddened what god had allowed.

Youre wrong, the prophet allowed it when one was away from his wife or in war i think, then disbanded it later on, let me find quote...

The Qur’an does not support this view. According to the very initial Surahs (chapters) of the Qur’an, like Surah Al-Mominun and Surah Al-Ma`arij the Qur’an specifically disallows all sexual relationships, besides that which are based on Nikah or that which were between a master and his slave girl. The Qur’an says:

And those who guard their chastity, except with their wives and their slave girls – for they are not to be blamed. But those who trespass beyond this are the ones who are transgressors. (70: 29 - 31)

Full of fallacies!
Do you know what you're talking about, borther?
According to what you said Mut'ah was allowed by prophet (pbuh) but later you said that it is haram according to Quran.
So the prophet was doing something against Quran (Nastajiro Bellah), right?

None of what you said is right.
Mut'ah was neither haram by qoran nor by Rasoul sunnah.

Here is evidence:

Qur'anic Evidences for the Legitimacy of Mut'ah

The Verse of Mut'ah (4:24)
[Forbidden to you] are married woman, except what your right hand possesses. This Allah has written for you, and all other women besides these are permitted to you, so that you may seek them out with your wealth, seeking chastity and not fornication. So when you have contracted temporary marriage [istimt'atum] with them, then give them their words. There is no sin on you for whatever you agree to after this. Indeed, Allah is Knowing, Wise. [Al-Qur'an, Surah An-Nisa, Ayah 24]
Allah (swt) has used the word istimta'tum, which is the verbal form of the word Mut'ah. Many of the Sunni Tafsir writers agree that this verse explicitly deals with Mut’ah for example "Istimatum' here refers to Nikah Mut'ah and this is a form of Nikah where a couple for a specified time have ownership of one another, and when the time expires they separate without Talaq" [Tafseer Mazhari Volume 3 p. 18…]
We also read in Tafseer Dur al-Manthur Vol 2, P. 140 & 141 that Ibn Abbas(r) said: "Mut'ah was practised from the outset of Islam and the Companions would read the verse of Mut'ah with the words 'for a prescribed period'.

source: http://www.answering-ansar.org

So you sunni brothers should reconsider what you think about Mut'ah if you're practicing Quran and Sunna.

[Saif-Uddin]

Re: Former Shiah refutes Mot'ah marriage (Temporary Marriage)

I hope the Shia in question also denounces the slanderous accusations by his sect (towards the Sahaba (ra) and the Wives (ra) of the Beloved Messenger (saaw)....)

I hope so too,

:jkk:

[Medievalist]

Re: Former Shiah refutes Mot'ah marriage (Temporary Marriage)

so how much do you charge or pay for mutah just out of curiosity?

shudnt be asking those kinda questions in public

[-BILAL-]

Re: Former Shiah refutes Mot'ah marriage (Temporary Marriage)

I'm not an expert but as far as I know Temp. Marriage was allowed unitl Othoman prohibited it. He made Allah's halal haram.
And a single shia's idea about prohibition of temp. marriage never disproves the claim of a number of greatest shia' Leaders.

Youre wrong, the prophet allowed it when one was away from his wife or in war i think, then disbanded it later on, let me find quote...

The Qur’an does not support this view. According to the very initial Surahs (chapters) of the Qur’an, like Surah Al-Mominun and Surah Al-Ma`arij the Qur’an specifically disallows all sexual relationships, besides that which are based on Nikah or that which were between a master and his slave girl. The Qur’an says:

And those who guard their chastity, except with their wives and their slave girls – for they are not to be blamed. But those who trespass beyond this are the ones who are transgressors. (70: 29 - 31)

[Peacenik]

Re: Former Shiah refutes Mot'ah marriage (Temporary Marriage)

I hope the Shia in question also denounces the slanderous accusations by his sect (towards the Sahaba (ra) and the Wives (ra) of the Beloved Messenger (saaw)....)

[in_exile]

Re: Former Shiah refutes Mot'ah marriage (Temporary Marriage)

I'm not an expert but as far as I know Temp. Marriage was allowed unitl Othoman prohibited it. He made Allah's halal haram.
And a single shia's idea about prohibition of temp. marriage never disproves the claim of a number of greatest shia' Leaders.

so how much do you charge or pay for mutah just out of curiosity?

[Sawtul Islam]

Re: Former Shiah refutes Mot'ah marriage (Temporary Marriage)

I'm not an expert but as far as I know Temp. Marriage was allowed unitl Othoman prohibited it. He made Allah's halal haram.
And a single shia's idea about prohibition of temp. marriage never disproves the claim of a number of greatest shia' Leaders.

What on earth are you talking about? You obviously have not watched the video.

First of all, the claim of the Shiahs is that OMAR (ra) forbade it of his own accord, not Uthman (ra).

You're probably the first person in the world to say that Uthman (ra) was the first to forbid Temporary Marriage.


The above video proves in parts 1 and 2 that Omar (ra) was NOT the first person to forbid it, but that it was the Prophet (saw) and then Omar (ra) simply DECLARED that it is Haram after he heard that some people were still doing it after the death of the Prophet (saw).

Part 3 and 4 of the video prove that even from a Shiah perspectice Temporary Marriage should be Haram, and that the Shiahs are actually using excuses, because there are 2 chains for a Hadith that says ALI IBN ABI TALIB (ra) said it is Haram, one of which is narrated in the Shiah books and the other is narrated in Sunni books from a follower of Ahlul Bayt who narrates from the Ahlul Bayt.

There is also another narration from Dare Qutni that also says Ali (ra) said it is Haram.

There is one narration that says Ali (ra) supposedly believed Temporary Marriage was Halal, but the video explains that this narration doesn't even make any sense.


The video then goes on to quote a lot of different Sahabah who said it is HARAM, and then on parts 7, 8 and 9 the video explains that Temporary Marriage is NOT in fact in the Qur'an.

And from then on the video goes on to prove that Temporary Marriage was ABROGATED, and refutes many Shiah scholars includng Khomeini and Allameh Askari and others.

Then it explains the issue of Mut'ah al-Hajj, and then explains why a few of the Sahabah believed that Temporary Marriage was Halal and how later they were convinced that it is HARAM/Abrogated.


Then there is a 5 part video which refutes the Answering-ansar.org article on Temporary marriage.

[al-ghazalli]

Re: Former Shiah refutes Mot'ah marriage (Temporary Marriage)

I'm not an expert but as far as I know Temp. Marriage was allowed unitl Othoman prohibited it. He made Allah's halal haram.

no mut`ah was aborgated in the time of Prophet (Peace and Blessings be Upon Him). Infact the hadith is mass-transmitted by none other than Syedina Ali (May Allah be Pleased with Him) meaning the narration is mutwatir.

[Divine Love]

Re: Former Shiah refutes Mot'ah marriage (Temporary Marriage)

I'm not an expert but as far as I know Temp. Marriage was allowed unitl Othoman prohibited it. He made Allah's halal haram.
And a single shia's idea about prohibition of temp. marriage never disproves the claim of a number of greatest shia' Leaders.

[Sawtul Islam]

Re: Former Shiah refutes Mot'ah marriage (Temporary Marriage)

Reftuting Shia "ANSWERING-ANSAR" on Mot'ah part 5

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BsjQ11CX2sc

[Sawtul Islam]

Re: Former Shiah refutes Mot'ah marriage (Temporary Marriage)

Reftuting Shia "ANSWERING-ANSAR" on Mot'ah part 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WNcdRSk7By4

Part 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OwsMdraeZQo

Part 3
http://youtube.com/watch?v=u3eWrEK6EIU

Part 4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-f_5THYgHc8

[Sawtul Islam]

Bismillahirrahmaanerraheem

Part 1

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FYQSLpYKJn4

Part 2

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yGomprTluB4

Part 3

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l9IDcT1q4Ns

Part 4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_nLFhU2Dq9c

Part 5

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Og6EBEoFtGw

Part 6

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rp30zN-zrjg

Part 7

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B5wZw_YNEiE

Part 8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6U2oukxxtlg

Part 9

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HjUO8Kuz6dk

Part 10

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WANpc7WgCmQ

Part 11

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CxJwTGZU0JY

Part 12

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TkKY34qAgkw

Part 13

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_cKKe16Q3pA

Part 14

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-i5di8kTjJo

Part 15

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vAJt9NhW7Yc

Part 16

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CZoIYoPw8zI



No Shiah has been able to refute anything on this video. I have also sent it to Shiah websites who claim to refute Sunnis but they have not responded...

Have no doubt, Temporary Marriage is Haram and in an Islamic state the punishment for it is stonning.