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    #16
    Re: The shrine of the killer of Umar Ibn al-Khattab: the reality of Shias

    Considering he died in madinah doesn't it also make sense he was buried in madinah

    Wouldn't be suprised if it was some shia's dead donkey in that tomb
    It may not be easy, you may not understand it, but you need to have the Imaan to trust Allah when life doesn't make sense.
    "Whoever intends eternal happiness, then let him hold tight to the threshold of servitude.” ibn Taymiyyah.

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      #17
      Re: The shrine of the killer of Umar Ibn al-Khattab: the reality of Shias

      Shia hate Hz Umar RA beyond proper limit

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        #18
        Re: The shrine of the killer of Umar Ibn al-Khattab: the reality of Shias

        Originally posted by ALAS View Post
        That is someone else. No one knows exactly who he is. Most likely it is a shrine of a Sufi. As the last news I know his shrine has become a police camp nowadays to prevent sectarian fitnas who may be made by ignorant Muslims. Those minority of filthy stupid Shias or whoever they are who make such fitnas are either ignorant or they are agents of colonialists for making sectarian wars, false flags, propaganda. However this story is a bit old, puppets of colonialists wanted sectarian wars so they needed such false flags and fitnas at that time. The same that ISIS members themselves confessed that they would ruin mosques and would write on it's walls that "there is no God but Assad !" naudhubillah as a false flag. They are either ignorant or agents of colonialists.
        source plz

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          #19
          Re: The shrine of the killer of Umar Ibn al-Khattab: the reality of Shias

          Originally posted by bhshawon View Post
          Yeah, your friends over shiachat praise Abu Lu'lu'ah heavily and hold him on very high esteem.

          http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/...ut-why/?page=1
          http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/...omment-2930600



          A 'sensible' shia's response to the statement
          true

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            #20
            Re: The shrine of the killer of Umar Ibn al-Khattab: the reality of Shias

            Originally posted by arfatzafar View Post
            source plz
            Source for what for which part !? No one knows who is burid there.
            Note: I am a shia.

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              #21
              Re: The shrine of the killer of Umar Ibn al-Khattab: the reality of Shias

              Originally posted by ALAS View Post
              Source for what for which part !? No one knows who is burid there.
              they would ruinmosques and would write on it's walls that"there is no Godbut Assad !"

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                #22
                Re: The shrine of the killer of Umar Ibn al-Khattab: the reality of Shias

                Originally posted by arfatzafar View Post
                they would ruin mosques and would write on it's walls that"there is no God but Assad !"
                Yeah !
                Here it is:
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5NQDvlVIFo

                Please pay attention that this is an interview on a Tunisian TV and Tunis is not a friend of Shias. These are the games orchestrated by the colonialists. Whenever, wherever the enemies (the main and the worst of them are USA, Israel, ... nowadays) clap or smile because of our behaviour, this is the sign that we are on the wrong way. I wish ISIS members would think a second before exploding themselves ! that who is benefited the most from their behaviors.
                Last edited by ALAS; 09-03-17, 03:10 PM.
                Note: I am a shia.

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                  #23
                  Re: The shrine of the killer of Umar Ibn al-Khattab: the reality of Shias

                  Originally posted by bhshawon View Post
                  Just learned today that a shrine was erected over the alleged grave of the killer of Umar :RA:, Abu Lu'lu'ah in the eleventh century. On the walls of the Shrine it's written in Farsi, "Marg bar Abu Bakr, marg bar Umar, marg bar Uthman" meaning "Death to Abu Bakr, death to Umar, Death to Uthman"[1]. After a request was made by International Union of Muslim Scholars to destroy the shrine, the iranians protested.



                  They also titled him Baba Suja ad-Deen (The one who's brave for his religion)[3].According to some report the shrine was shut down in 2007. But the shiites still praises him, celebrates the death of Umar :RA: and considers it a historical place.

                  [1]Umar ibn Al-Khattab: His Life and Times, Dr. Ali Muhammad Sallabi, p. 403
                  [2]http://www.cais-soas.com/News/2007/June2007/28-06.htm
                  [3]Melville, Charles Peter, ed. (1996). Safavid Persia: the history and politics of an Islamic society (PDF) (illustrated ed.). I.B. Tauris. p. 161. ISBN 9781860640230.
                  Assalam u Alaikum
                  The assassin of Syedna Umar e Farooq RZ by Abu lolo Firoz is highly venerated by rawafidh as a saint. His shrine in Iran was constructed under the orders of Safavid King Shah Ismail I in 17th century(1600s). Firoz is not buried in that shrine because its only a symbolic shrine. Rawafidh go to this shrine and make vows.
                  Now a Muslim will think that shias do this because according to them Umar RZ killed Hazrat Fatima Zahra RZ but this is not the case.
                  They have hatred for Hazrat Umar RZ because it was under his orders that Persia was captured and Islam was introduced there. And there forefathers suffered a humiliating defeat by the Sahabah RZ. That's the main reason. When we compare Majoosiyat and Shiism, there is no difference!! Then comes the role of Abdullah ibn Saba and then Abu lolo firoz. Insha Allah I will tell about Ibn Saba some other day.
                  So as the Sahabah RZ conquered their lands they created a sense of hatred for them. This can be seen in Rawafidh today.
                  Thank you

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                    #24
                    Re: The shrine of the killer of Umar Ibn al-Khattab: the reality of Shias

                    Originally posted by arfatzafar View Post
                    Shia hate Hz Umar RA beyond proper limit
                    There is no reason why any Muslim should hate any of the companions(ra), and especially not the rashideen.

                    The shias are following a different deen than Islam.

                    Abu Sa’eed Al-Khudri reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Do not abuse my companions, for if one of you were to spend the weight of mount Uhud in gold it would not surpass a small amount of their charity or even half of that.”

                    Source: Sahih Bukhari 3470

                    Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Bukhari

                    عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ قَالَ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ لَا تَسُبُّوا أَصْحَابِي فَلَوْ أَنَّ أَحَدَكُمْ أَنْفَقَ مِثْلَ أُحُدٍ ذَهَبًا مَا بَلَغَ مُدَّ أَحَدِهِمْ وَلَا نَصِيفَهُ

                    3470 صحيح البخاري كِتَاب فَضَائِلِ الصحابة خرجنا مع رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم في بعض أسفاره حتى إذا كنا بالبيداء أو بذات الجيش انقطع عقد لي

                    So what is the status of the one who says لعنة on the companions(Wa naudhubillahi min dhalik), and says that this cursing is bringing him closer to Allah(swt), and he says that Allah(swt) hates Umar(ra) and others from the companions, including the Prophet's(saw) wives, more than anyone else on earth? He is not upon Islam.
                    وَمَا قَدَرُوا اللَّهَ حَقَّ قَدْرِهِ وَالْأَرْضُ جَمِيعًا قَبْضَتُهُ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ وَالسَّمَاوَاتُ مَطْوِيَّاتٌ بِيَمِينِهِ ۚ سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَىٰ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
                    They have not appraised Allah with true appraisal, while the earth entirely will be [within] His grip on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Exalted is He and high above what they associate with Him. (Az-Zumar: 67)

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                      #25
                      Re: The shrine of the killer of Umar Ibn al-Khattab: the reality of Shias

                      Originally posted by ALAS View Post
                      Yeah !
                      Here it is:
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5NQDvlVIFo

                      Please pay attention that this is an interview on a Tunisian TV and Tunis is not a friend of Shias. These are the games orchestrated by the colonialists. Whenever, wherever the enemies (the main and the worst of them are USA, Israel, ... nowadays) clap or smile because of our behaviour, this is the sign that we are on the wrong way. I wish ISIS members would think a second before exploding themselves ! that who is benefited the most from their behaviors.
                      you think mentioning isis as a scape goat makes your stance stronger?? lOOOL

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