Re: The original Najdi/ Wahhabi movement was more extreme in bloodshed & Takfir than
You are provoked so easily.
Let me jog your memory. You already gave me that link last time we talked. I have already read it like six times.
What makes you think I am interested?
I just wanted to point some things up about what the Imaams of the Ashaa'irah believe and this thread provided me the opportunity. And I will be adding in a few snippets from now and then as people should know all that is in the books.
And since you think I do not know anything I suggest you respond to others who can help you better.
Finally, I am surprised that a man like you who claims not to be a hard core Ash'ari - since that was my post which got your attention - has used words like kufri beliefs, atheism, disbelievers, and all sorts in his posts for his opposition.
It is rather embarrassing to see someone call others extreme and yet when a discussion comes up he acts in exactly the same way.....
It won't help your cause of saying the Salafi's are the ones who are extreme because you quite frankly are no less extreme against your opposition with the language you use. In all honestly, the more Ashaa'irah forums you direct me to the more I realize how violent you people are in their language to the Salafis and their websites are no where that extreme against you.
Rather than direct me to forums, if you really are interested in a discussion - which you should not be as according to you I have no clue what I talk about and just think I am right - you should bring the relevant pages from one of the following books regarding Ashaa'irah beliefs which you believe are misrepresented by the Salafis - as you did claim that - as they are an interesting read I must say.
الانصاف فيما يجب اعتقاده
أبكار الأفكار في أصول الدين
الشامل في أصول الدين
Originally posted by Abu Sulayman
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Let me jog your memory. You already gave me that link last time we talked. I have already read it like six times.
Now before you try to discuss with me, please go and see for yourself what Ibn Taymiyyah actually said regarding the Sifat al-Khabariyyah al-'Ayniyyah or al-'Ayniyyah al-Dhatiyyah (I'm using his expressions by the way).
I just wanted to point some things up about what the Imaams of the Ashaa'irah believe and this thread provided me the opportunity. And I will be adding in a few snippets from now and then as people should know all that is in the books.
And since you think I do not know anything I suggest you respond to others who can help you better.
Finally, I am surprised that a man like you who claims not to be a hard core Ash'ari - since that was my post which got your attention - has used words like kufri beliefs, atheism, disbelievers, and all sorts in his posts for his opposition.
It is rather embarrassing to see someone call others extreme and yet when a discussion comes up he acts in exactly the same way.....
It won't help your cause of saying the Salafi's are the ones who are extreme because you quite frankly are no less extreme against your opposition with the language you use. In all honestly, the more Ashaa'irah forums you direct me to the more I realize how violent you people are in their language to the Salafis and their websites are no where that extreme against you.
Rather than direct me to forums, if you really are interested in a discussion - which you should not be as according to you I have no clue what I talk about and just think I am right - you should bring the relevant pages from one of the following books regarding Ashaa'irah beliefs which you believe are misrepresented by the Salafis - as you did claim that - as they are an interesting read I must say.
الانصاف فيما يجب اعتقاده
أبكار الأفكار في أصول الدين
الشامل في أصول الدين
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