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The original Najdi/ Wahhabi movement was more extreme in bloodshed & Takfir than ISIS

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  • Abu 'Abdullaah
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    Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post

    If it's such a complicated topic then how are you going to determine the location of Najd when you don't even know the difference between your ankle and your elbow?
    Plot twist: OK, so you say Najd is in Iraq? Fine. Then the hadeeth surely refers to al-Baghdadi!

    The point is the hadeeth is definitely about a Wahhabi.

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  • Simply_Logical
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    Originally posted by Fais
    Originally posted by Simply_Logical View Post

    actually no, ive made a threaad about najd many years ago, its somewhat of interest to me tbh,

    i see salafis being pro imama abdul wahhab movement and i see opposites like sufis who are against the whole movement,
    i question myself all the time whos on the haq, why do they oppose each other and why there is a lot of enmity against each other from both sects
    Salafis having many decent and admirable traits as a group. Just like any other group. But I don't think you'll find "truth" (whatever that means) with any particular group ...
    Yea I think you're right and yea they do have some good qualities like all the sects out there tbh

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  • Abu 'Abdullaah
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    Originally posted by Simply_Logical View Post

    look its an in depth topic and rather complicated, its not a straight forward topic,
    also theres a lot of pro and against info, theres not a lot of balanced info which gives you info based on the middle path so to speak

    for example on the thread i made about najd, just the discussion about the location about najd alone was based on loads of pro and against info tbh
    If it's such a complicated topic then how are you going to determine the location of Najd when you don't even know the difference between your ankle and your elbow?

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  • Fais
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    Originally posted by Simply_Logical View Post

    actually no, ive made a threaad about najd many years ago, its somewhat of interest to me tbh,

    i see salafis being pro imama abdul wahhab movement and i see opposites like sufis who are against the whole movement,
    i question myself all the time whos on the haq, why do they oppose each other and why there is a lot of enmity against each other from both sects
    Salafis having many decent and admirable traits as a group. Just like any other group. But I don't think you'll find "truth" (whatever that means) with any particular group ...

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  • Simply_Logical
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    Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post

    After all these years you ask such questions which means you have no intention of learning but trying to cause drama.
    look its an in depth topic and rather complicated, its not a straight forward topic,
    also theres a lot of pro and against info, theres not a lot of balanced info which gives you info based on the middle path so to speak

    for example on the thread i made about najd, just the discussion about the location about najd alone was based on loads of pro and against info tbh






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  • Fais
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    Originally posted by Simply_Logical View Post

    why do you think that is?

    do you think their 'blind following'?
    Yes. I think YQ covers it well in his lecture. The books are there and the quotes are there in front of you. But what do those quotes matter if everyone you see mentioning them as enemies looking to disparage your Shaykh or Imam? Someone you fully and firmly believe was the best person alive at the time, was a reviver of the religion.

    So if he said something, it carries weight, and if he said there were people in the land that were mushrik and they were fought and killed, then he was right to do so.

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  • Abu 'Abdullaah
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    Originally posted by Simply_Logical View Post

    actually no, ive made a threaad about najd many years ago, its somewhat of interest to me tbh,

    i see salafis being pro imama abdul wahhab movement and i see opposites like sufis who are against the whole movement,
    i question myself all the time whos on the haq, why do they oppose each other and why there is a lot of enmity against each other from both sects
    After all these years you ask such basic questions which means you have no intention of learning but trying to cause drama.
    Last edited by Abu 'Abdullaah; 01-03-21, 08:54 PM.

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  • Simply_Logical
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    Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post

    Are you here to stir the pot again? Is that how you get your kicks?
    actually no, ive made a threaad about najd many years ago, its somewhat of interest to me tbh,

    i see salafis being pro imama abdul wahhab movement and i see opposites like sufis who are against the whole movement,
    i question myself all the time whos on the haq, why do they oppose each other and why there is a lot of enmity against each other from both sects

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  • Fais
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    Originally posted by Linkdeutscher View Post
    Salafis would do themselves a big favor by just disassociating themselves from MiAW.
    Holy moly .. Link said that? Was he hacked?

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  • Simply_Logical
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    Originally posted by Fais View Post

    Yes.
    why do you think that is?

    do you think their 'blind following'?

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  • Fais
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    Originally posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    so do people actually justify the bloodshed that was caused?
    Yes.

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  • Abu 'Abdullaah
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    Originally posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    so do people actually justify the bloodshed that was caused?
    Are you here to stir the pot again? Is that how you get your kicks?

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  • magok
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    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvNLgeHX...jpg&name=small

    feel the hatred in your souls as you look on this

    :)

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  • Simply_Logical
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    Originally posted by Linkdeutscher View Post
    Salafis would do themselves a big favor by just disassociating themselves from MiAW.
    bro tbh i cant ever see that happening, some salafis tend to lean towards his works as a form of guidance for example kitab at tawheed

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  • Simply_Logical
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    so do people actually justify the bloodshed that was caused?

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