Re: The original Najdi/ Wahhabi movement was more extreme in bloodshed & Takfir than
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Ibn 'Aqeel said:
قال الإمام أبو الوفاء علي بن عقيل الحنبلي رحمه الله : إن من يعظم القبور ويخاطب الموتى بقضاء الحوائج ، ويقول : يا مولاي ويا سيدي عبد القادر : (إفعل لي كذا) ؛ هو كافر بهذه الأوضاع ، ومن دعا ميتا وطلب قضاء الحوائج فهو كافر
''Indeed the one who venerates the graves and adresses the dead asking them to fulfill his needs by saying ''O sayyid Abdul Qadir do this for me'' is a kafir....''
He was born a few 100 years before Ibn Taymiyyah and I will try to bring more scholars after I reply to Abu Sulaymaans posts later on. It should also be noted that the istighatha done today to the dead is an even bigger shirk then whats said above.
Once we get into deeper discussions of what shirk and ibaadah actually are, you will see how the asharis contradict themselves, this in no way means sheikh MIAW was free from error, however I believe he did a good job in fighting shirk and made some very good arguments, if it wasnt for him by the will of Allah, arabia today would have been completely different,
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Ibn 'Aqeel said:
قال الإمام أبو الوفاء علي بن عقيل الحنبلي رحمه الله : إن من يعظم القبور ويخاطب الموتى بقضاء الحوائج ، ويقول : يا مولاي ويا سيدي عبد القادر : (إفعل لي كذا) ؛ هو كافر بهذه الأوضاع ، ومن دعا ميتا وطلب قضاء الحوائج فهو كافر
''Indeed the one who venerates the graves and adresses the dead asking them to fulfill his needs by saying ''O sayyid Abdul Qadir do this for me'' is a kafir....''
He was born a few 100 years before Ibn Taymiyyah and I will try to bring more scholars after I reply to Abu Sulaymaans posts later on. It should also be noted that the istighatha done today to the dead is an even bigger shirk then whats said above.
Once we get into deeper discussions of what shirk and ibaadah actually are, you will see how the asharis contradict themselves, this in no way means sheikh MIAW was free from error, however I believe he did a good job in fighting shirk and made some very good arguments, if it wasnt for him by the will of Allah, arabia today would have been completely different,
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