Originally posted by AbuMubarak
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As for your age, ya shaykh, let me apologise for my rudeness.
May Allah bless you children, their children and their children, and give you a share of all good deeds they have learnt from you. I am sure as an elderly member of the forum you have much advise and wisdom to impart to us younger members. Whilst I share some grey hairs, I am of course much, much younger than you. Of course I am not sure how we follow the Sunnah with regards to you on the forum - do we allow you to post first in substitute for speaking first or how does that work?
As for defamation, I have mentioned that what you are doing is defending a (no offence) mass murderer and distorter of the Sunnah, who evidently may have been declared a disbeliever by RasulAllah Salallahu Alayhi Wa Salam. You did not answer my question regarding the Shi'ah Shaykh: Tell me, if someone called the Usuli Twelver Shi'a ulama who supported the Safavid purge of Sunni Muslims from Iran, Dajjalun or Shayatin, would you oppose that?
Forum Policy
If Shaykh you are saying that it is against forum policy to give the view that Ibn Abdul Wahhab is a disbeliever (not a view I personally hold), then this is problematic, as I am sure many-a-people have made takfir on here on the likes of Ibn 'Arabi etc. in the past. Also I and others have made takfir of multiple groups and even individual scholars/personalities on this forum before, and no one has batted an eyelid so far...
If however you are saying it is against forum policy to call (e.g.) Ibn Abdul Wahhab a "Shaytan" or "Dajjal", as it might hurt the sentiments of some Muslims, then I think Abu Sulayman should respect that and refrain from making such comments on the forum, although personally I was not aware of such a rule, nor I'm guessing was Abu Sulayman. But this rule should of course be consistantly observed.
I mean I am trying to be diplomatic here, but Shaykh you can understand how difficult it is to continue like this given the circumstances. As I have stated I do not call him a shaytan myself, though could not condemn someone who (for instance) believes he is a disbeliever and appropriately applies that label. Nor do I ever recall calling him a Dajjal myself, but I said it would be appropriate to call him that as he deceived many, and the one mentioned in that Hadith is certainly a deceiver, whoever he is.
On that subject, I see you are indeed taking your time in pondering your answer to the question I asked you connected to that Hadith. This is what I hoped - my Shaykh you should feel no hurry in answering. I hope you will agree that it is good for us to take our time time and contemplate such things.
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