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  • Murid
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    Assalamo alaykum
    Probably, as you already said that you are not pro use, it is best to leave as it is and to start improving yourself in the many different aspects first. Work hard on yourself. Do not waste time. You can do it. Best if you speed it up with the help or services of others previously mentioned.

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  • C Bear
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    Originally posted by Simply_Logical View Post
    C Bear i'd advice you to destroy the taweez as it imo is magic, this is what i did with mine years ago


    what it is, is that when water touches the taweez as in the magic, it neutralises it from what i understand especially if its ruqyah water too,
    hence why you'll find these magicians and these so called scholars who when they give taweez they say always cover it, so water doesnt touch it you see,
    some of the other taweez youll see will be written in like an orange saffron colour too, obviously the ones in the pics arent though and Allah swt knows best

    Jazakallah, I will look through your links

    Just to clarify, the taweez is not mine. My mum got it from a "mosab" and they have all these papers in a jug of water that my mum, sister, her kids and possibly her husband and my dad drink from every day. As far as I know, they aren't wearing anything around their neck. They are filling a spray bottle ad spraying the kids and all over the house. As far as I know, there's nothing in my room, but there is some Arabic text near my room, but it's high up. I'll try to take it down.

    I told my mum magic squares are black magic, but she didn't care. I want so much to destroy the taweez, but it's all of them against me, and they already act like I'm the shaytaan in the attic with my own little demon factory up here. So I know if I destroy their precious taweez I will be in big trouble (and they'll probably say it's proof that I'm possessed). I will have no one on my side. My mum has a lot of faith in quackery of every type.

    That's why I was hoping to find a fatwa from ask imam or one of the hanafi fatwa sites, because I know they will say "fatwa vs taqwa" or "that's maliki, hanafi is different". So I need to get it from someone they trust. Then they'll believe it. But I couldn't find anything about these grids. I'll look through the links you posted and see if there's anything there.

    okay this is most likely sihr done by someone who asked you for your mothers name or date of birth, or asked for garments etc to try and 'resolve the issues' or for 'protection' etc
    Yes! This is what happened. My mum told my sister to wear a top for 24 hours with no underwear and give it to this "mosab". Unfortunately, I don't know this "mosab" 's name, just that he lives in Nuneaton.

    Can someone give me advice on what to say to my mum?
    Last edited by C Bear; 09-07-21, 10:59 AM.

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  • Murid
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    Salam alaykum
    I think that he studied islamic sciences and underwent raqi training.
    He is not an alim if you consider it like a PHD islamic sciences mufti and a sufi shaykh.
    He has a moderate stance as he acknowledges sufism.

    I think that muslims are in dire need for experts, combining spirituality, modern medicine and dunya advances/advices.
    Maybe teams with like a PHD islamic scholar mufti, a sufi shaykh, a raqi, a hijama practitioner, a medical doctor, a psychologist, a psychiatrist, a nutritionist, a fitness coach, a life coach etc. could jointly volunteer in order to bring prosperity and happiness among muslims and indirectly non muslim communities to.

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  • Simply_Logical
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    Originally posted by Murid
    Salam alaykum
    The moderator has his own forum http://www.rawatansihir.com/forum/default.asp
    His clients were many successful muslims, multimillionaires etc.
    Maybe his services are worth for diagnosis, intensive auditing and therapy for some months.

    He is not a shaykh, but probably has a lot more knowledge and experience than an ordinary muslim.
    To improve even more, we shoukd probably hire additional exoerts, like nutricionist, personal coaches, mentors etc., in cases where we think that we are unsuccessful, but in serious cases as when we have health issues, like posession, then also psychiatrists, medical doctors in addition.
    Yea I seen that site years ago but haven't really read much on there tbh

    I didn't know he charged on that site tbh as I just seen the advice he gives on the ruqyah dhariah forum which is free for anyone to benefit from

    He does have knowledge, I don't agree with everything he says as you say he is a raqi not an aalim as such however I do think most advice given is good from what I've read but obviously only Allah swt knows

    I'm sure he's from Indonesia or Malaysia somewhere, where sihr is very rampant tbh, so maybe why he deals with a lot of cases? I dunno

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  • Murid
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    Salam alaykum
    The moderator has his own forum http://www.rawatansihir.com/forum/default.asp
    His clients were many successful muslims, multimillionaires etc.
    Maybe his services are worth for diagnosis, intensive auditing and therapy for some months.

    He is not a shaykh, but probably has a lot more knowledge and experience than an ordinary muslim.
    To improve even more, we shoukd probably hire additional exoerts, like nutricionist, personal coaches, mentors etc., in cases where we think that we are unsuccessful, but in serious cases as when we have health issues, like posession, then also psychiatrists, medical doctors in addition.

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  • Simply_Logical
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    Originally posted by Murid View Post
    Salam alaykum
    The mentioned site is good in many different aspects inshaAllah.
    Maybe some problems lie in not the best diagnosis and auditing of the progress. The services are although free. There is a premium service on the moderators site.
    Often the whole life of a person or their families also depend on the advices and treatment. The charges are not that high for most of the countries.
    Secondly, many often consider almost every life failure as result of sihr etc.
    That is not correct.
    Often people lack education, role models, mentors, social and soft skills, right social circle etc.
    Maybe they just need to spend 3-4 hours in the library daily, 1-2 hours in the gym, to volunteer at weekends and many problems would be solved after some months inshaAllah.
    Thirdly, we need to maintain possitivity and to spread more love, kindness and service to humaity.

    There is maybe an interesting "dunya mentor" for you UK folks, on Youtube, Ali Abdaal. If his advices would be refined with islamic spirituality and volunteering, you would get a very good role model inshaAllah.

    Also, problems can not be solved mostly over night. You need to invest time and effort in correcting mistakes and sinns and starting to improve. Problems need to be indentified to start resolving them. Here start the roles of doctors, spiritual doctors and Shaykhs, mentors, life coaches etc.

    Besides others help or services, we must put best of our efforts, our time, maybe money etc., but also be cognizant of God, start with besmellah and hamd, make dua and afterwards rely on Allah and expect the best.
    which site the ruqyah shariah forum i posted?

    if so, please share the link where you said they charge for a premium service please, as ive never known about it and wasnt aware of this thanks jazakAllah khayran

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  • Murid
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    Salam alaykum
    The mentioned site is good in many different aspects inshaAllah.
    Maybe some problems lie in not the best diagnosis and auditing of the progress. The services are although free. There is a premium service on the moderators site.
    Often the whole life of a person or their families also depend on the advices and treatment. The charges are not that high for most of the countries.
    Secondly, many often consider almost every life failure as result of sihr etc.
    That is not correct.
    Often people lack education, role models, mentors, social and soft skills, right social circle etc.
    Maybe they just need to spend 3-4 hours in the library daily, 1-2 hours in the gym, to volunteer at weekends and many problems would be solved after some months inshaAllah.
    Thirdly, we need to maintain possitivity and to spread more love, kindness and service to humaity.

    There is maybe an interesting "dunya mentor" for you UK folks, on Youtube, Ali Abdaal. If his advices would be refined with islamic spirituality and volunteering, you would get a very good role model inshaAllah.

    Also, problems can not be solved mostly over night. You need to invest time and effort in correcting mistakes and sinns and starting to improve. Problems need to be indentified to start resolving them. Here start the roles of doctors, spiritual doctors and Shaykhs, mentors, life coaches etc.

    Besides others help or services, we must put best of our efforts, our time, maybe money etc., but also be cognizant of God, start with besmellah and hamd, make dua and afterwards rely on Allah and expect the best.

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  • Simply_Logical
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    C Bear if you want advice from a raqi register on the ruqyah shariah forum, the raqi is very helpful and has good knowledge on this topic imo

    http://ruqyashariyah.org/forum/

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  • Murid
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    Assalamu alaykum

    In short they will not help a lot.

    Better is to follow general well known advices, like, abstaining from sinn, doing fardh, increasing nawafil, duas, educating in deen, dhikr, estegfar, hamd/shukr, salawat, daily sadaqa, speaking only good and sharing possitive emotions-staying at least silent with sabr or turning to humor/possitivity-if there is negativity, forgiving others, hard dedicated dunya working and educating, socialising, going to the gym, watching hygiene and clothing, helping family members, neighbors, friends...in short trying best to become a better version of yourself.

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  • Simply_Logical
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    C Bear i'd advice you to destroy the taweez as it imo is magic, this is what i did with mine years ago

    check out these how to destroy taweez vids on what and how to do it exactly in sha Allah

    How to Destroy a Taweez, an Amulet? | Tim Humble Ruqyah Q&A
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnO99VhrAtk

    HOW To DESTROY Your TAWEEZ (Amulets and Charms)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42QmNe-C_uU


    HOW TO DESTROY A TAWEEZ ? RUQYA RELATED QUESTIONS ANSWERED.THE RUQYA SERVICES
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIry5D7L50w

    what it is, is that when water touches the taweez as in the magic, it neutralises it from what i understand especially if its ruqyah water too,
    hence why you'll find these magicians and these so called scholars who when they give taweez they say always cover it, so water doesnt touch it you see,
    some of the other taweez youll see will be written in like an orange saffron colour too, obviously the ones in the pics arent though and Allah swt knows best

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  • Simply_Logical
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    Originally posted by Murid View Post
    Assalamo alaykum
    C bear, contact me over PM please.
    As much as I can say, treat those papers as written ayat-do not throw them to dirty places etc.
    if you have to say something beneficial post it here as everyone can benefit in sha Allah

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  • Simply_Logical
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    Originally posted by C Bear View Post
    In the maliki school, Quran is allowed on taweez, with conditions (I'm not interested in getting into a debate about maddhabs, so please let's stick to the topic at hand). I'm asking specifically about this grid stuff. This was from a "mosab" btw. My family are putting it in water and making everyone drink it and get sprayed with it. I'm not participating. I'm just worried if this will be harmful to my family.

    My mum also put a grid with arabic letters in my suitcase when we went hajj "for protection". I took it right out but she kept hers. She also made me wear a taweez for most of my teenage years. I opened it a few years ago and it was more of this grid stuff. I know this stuff isn't allowed in the maliki school, but they are deobandi-hanafi, and I don't know what their rule is for this.Should I just leave them to it?
    just bare in mins that the debate as to the ikthilaf over taeeez is about just verses written like how you find in any copy of the Qur'an, not these grids, numbers and odd verses written in circles squares etc

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  • Simply_Logical
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    Originally posted by C Bear View Post
    As salamu alaykum.

    I hope someone can tell me more about this taweez. I don't like the look of it at all. I thought the only thing allowed on taweez is Qur'anic verses? This looks like a magic square.

    I can't really find much info. When searching, all I could find was this thread and then sites selling this sort of thing. Am I being paranoid, or is this some black magic nonsense?

    okay this is most likely sihr done by someone who asked you for your mothers name or date of birth, or asked for garments etc to try and 'resolve the issues' or for 'protection' etc

    dont bother trying to make sense of it, its just going to be mumbo jumbo, a mixture of the odd word or verse from the Qur'an with pure mumbo jumbo mixed in like random letters and numbers too,
    only the magicians will know what it means exactly as its most likely a spell thats been casted hence the writing in grids numbers etc, the purpose of the odd verse or word from the Qur'an is not only to fool the average muslim but o also disgrace the Qur'an because sihr whether it be done as white magic, black magic or whatever colour you call it and whether it be done for a good purpose or a bad one it is haraam as the verse in Surah Al Baqarah number 102 tells you anyone who partakes in sihr (magic) will have no part of the hereafter

    believe me sister i speak from experience as years ago i used to wear taweez my self personally, i drunk it mixed in the water, sprayed the house with it , even had to burn the stuff and inhale the fumes, theres a reason why some make you drink it, burn it etc, thats another story tbh

    my advice would be stay away from it and learn about ruqyah and most importantly tawheed, teach your family this is house i realised the mistakes of my ways and please please stay away from these so called scholars with massive beards and massive turbans and massive prayer beads, some of these are guys are magicians themselve, dont be fooled by their looks

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  • Murid
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    Assalamo alaykum
    C bear, contact me over PM please.
    As much as I can say, treat those papers as written ayat-do not throw them to dirty places etc.

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  • Flawed
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    Originally posted by C Bear View Post
    I touched it only to take the photos. Yes, I will do my quls after this insha Allah.

    Basically, my family have this habit of thinking ANY problem is caused by "the yahud".

    I told my mum that looks like a magic square and if there's any black magic in the house, it's that. She wasn't interested. They are still drinking it.

    I looked on askimam, and it seems quran and duas both are allowed. I can't find a mention of grids at all. I was seeing if I could find a hanafi fatwa from a reputable site specifically mentioning these grids. Because anything else, they will just say "fatwa vs taqwa" or "that's maliki, hanafi is different."

    ETA: https://spiritualhealinginislam.webs...letstaweez.htm
    I've just skim read this so far, but I'm creeped out now. I don't know about this site, but it's creepy.
    Honestly sis if she went to a magician and got those grids made then simply by it being in the house and near you you can get possessed or attract unwanted jinns to you.

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