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    Aadaab ut Takhallie
    Etiquette of going to the toilet


    Adab ul-istitaaba - etiquette of cleaning yourself

    Salman al-Farsi:
    "A Mushrik came and asked "did your friend teach you how to defecate?" he said "yes he did", the Mushrik asked, "What did he teach you?" "He forbade us to clean with your right hand, and forbade us to face the qiblah, and he forbade us to use the bones or dried excrement."
    Muslim 262, Musnad Imam Ahmad 23191(/9 not sure), Ibn Majah 316

    1 - PROHIBITION OF THE 3 CURSED THINGS

    "Be careful of the 3 cursed things, urinating, defecating, (and flatulating) and spitting (with phlegm) in any sources (rivers, seas, oceans, wells etc) and in the middle of the road (where people walk) and from under the shade."Abu Dawood 26, Ibn Majah 328

    Abu Huraira
    The Prophet (saw) Said:
    "Be careful of the two cursed things,"

    He replied, "What are the two cursed things oh messenger?"

    The Prophet (saw) said: "what people dropped in middle of the way, or in the shade. (And keep distance from doing it)""Muslim 269, Musnad Imam Ahmad 8636, Abu Dawood 25

    Mu'az said: "The sources are (rivers, seas, oceans, free running water or stagnant water)…

    Allah (swt) said: "And those who harm the believers, male and female, it is forbidden."

    Imam Nawawi said: "It is not allowed to defecate or urinate or throw dirt in the places where people benefit from."

    It is allowed in bushes far away from the people, where nobody sits in shade, and is not in the path of people or places where no people will go etc.

    2 - IT IS FORBIDDEN TO URINATE IN WATER.

    Jabir ibn Abdullah
    "The Prophet (saw) said:
    "It is forbidden to urinate in stagnant water""Muslim 281, Musnad Imam Ahmad 14258, Ibn Majah 343

    For greater reason it is not allowed to defecate in it

    Imam Nawawi said: "If the water is a lot and is flowing and attached to the seas or river, it is permissible or makrouh."

    If it is a child, it is ok if it is not stagnant, but otherwise take it generally whether stagnant or flowing.

    3 - DO NOT ENTER THE BATHROOM WITH SOMETHING THAT HAS ALLAH WRITTEN ON IT.

    In the case of things like money (e.g. in Saudi Arabia) it is permissible as long as it is put away as much as possible.
    (English is allowed)


    Prohibited to go in to the Toilet with the Qur'an

    Nor make any zhikr or talk in the toilet.

    4 -PROHIBITION TO FACE THE QIBLAH WHEN DEFECATING OR URINATING

    Abu Ayyub Al-Ansari
    The Prophet (saw) said:
    "If any one of you want to defecate, he should not face the qiblah, nor have his back to the qiblah, he should face the east or the west."Bukhari 144, Muslim 264 (a/narration " whether urinating or defecating"), Musnad Imam Ahmad 23003

    Some fuquha say it is haram in front of the Ka'aba, but makrouh if you are far away.

    Abdullah ibn Umar: "Some People say if you are going to the toilet, do not face the qiblah nor bait ul-Maqdis. One day I stood up on the roof of my house and saw the Prophet (saw) urinate facing Jerusalem." Bukhari 145, Muslim 266

    Salman al-Farsi: "Mushrik came … he forbade us to face the qiblah when urinating or defecating.Muslim 262, Musnad Imam Ahmad 23191(/9 not sure), Ibn Majah 316

    Jabir ibn Abdullah: "The Prophet (saw) forbade us to face the qiblah when urinating, however I saw him one year before he passed away, and he was facing it."

    Some fuquha say not allowed in open space, but in a close place, in front of wall etc. there is a permit if you cannot change the position.

    OBM opinion, in open space is HARAM, in close place, if you avoid it for the sake of Allah, there is reward.

    5 - THE DU'A FOR GOING TO THE TOILET

    Zaid bin Arqam
    The Prophet (saw) said: "This place is where the shayateen gather." Musnad Imam Ahmad 18800,Ibn Majah 296


    This is why; the Sunnah is not to spend a lot of time in the toilet.

    You enter the toilet by the left, and leave by the right. (Foot)

    Imam 'Ali: "The Prophet (saw) said: "the cover of the awrah when he wants to enter the house of the shaytan (toilet), is to say bismillah, then to say A'udhubillah min al-kubthi wal- khaba'ith""Bukhari 142, Ibn Majah 297, Tirmizi 606

    Anas reported: "When the Prophet entered the Toilet he said allahuma inni a'udhubika min al kubuthi wal khaba'ith" Bukhari 142, Muslim 375, Musnad Imam Ahmad 11536

    6 - YOU MUST COVER UP AS MUCH AS YOU CAN WHEN YOU ARE IN THE TOILET.

    It is recommended to cover yourself as much as you can when you are fulfilling your need.

    Al Mughirah ibn Shu'ba: "I was travelling with the Prophet (saw), he asked me to take the lead, so I took it, after that he went to urinate, he went in such a way that no one could see him, and was wearing a shaami jubba, and showed only enough to fulfil his need."Bukhari 363, Muslim 274, Musnad Imam Ahmad 17668, Abu Dawood 151

    It is a Prophetic etiquette, to cover yourself as much as possible.

    "He left us to urinate in a place so dark and far away until we could not see him anymore." Muslim , Ahmad

    "The Prophet (saw) was so far away that we could not recognise him"

    When you leave the toilet say "Ghufranak"

    A'isha said: "Whenever the Prophet (saw) left the toilet he said " Ghufranak"."Musnad Imam Ahmad 24694, Abu Dawood 30

    7 - TO STAND OR SIT DURING URINATION.

    A'isha: "Whoever said they saw the Prophet (saw) urinate standing, do not listen to them I saw him do it sitting."

    Hudhaifah said: "I saw the Prophet (saw) urinate standing."

    The Fuquha say it is the strongest evidence to do it standing.
    - To avoid impurity
    - To be able to see if anybody is there.


    The Prophet (saw) did both, so we accept both. And anybody who says there is a recommendation either way, then it is an innovation.

    8 - IT IS FORBIDDEN TO USE THE RIGHT HAND TO CLEAN YOURSELF.

    Because everything with karama is done with the right, and anything with no karama, you do with the left.

    Abu Qatada: "The Prophet (saw) said: "If anyone is urinating, he should not touch his private parts with his right hand, nor make istinja with the right. Nor have tanaffus (blowing in the food.)""

    (From this hadith you can also extract that you are not allowed to eat in the toilet.)

    Bukhari 153, Muslim 267, Musnad Imam Ahmad 18927

    Another Narration
    "No one should use your right hand when urinating or defecating"


    9 - AL ISTINJA WAL ISTIJMAR (CLEANING BY WATER AND STONE)

    Cleaning after urinating
    - Shake it 3 times
    - Dry with 3 stones (Istijmar)
    (Or anything dry and absorbent)
    - Wash it (Istibrar)
    - Dry it


    After Defecating
    - Remove all faeces
    - Dry the area with 3 stones
    - Wash it
    - Dry it (not necessary just for comfort)


    Abu Huraira
    "I was with the Prophet (saw) and he went to urinate, he was not looking, and I went close to him, he said:


    "Get me a stone for istijmar, do not get me bones, nor the dung of animals."

    I got it for him and left it near him and left."

    Bukhari 155

    Use Water or stone or both
    Water is enough.
    JUST MAKE SURE THERE IS NOTHING LEFT.


    10 - PROHIBITION FOR USING DUNG OR BONES FOR ISTIJMAR

    Abdullah ibn Mas'oud: "I went to get 3 stones for the Prophet (saw) to make istijmar, but I could not find three, so I gave him 2 stones, and 1 piece of dung. He took the stones and threw the dung, and said: "that is not acceptable."Bukhari 156, Musnad Imam Ahmad 3677, Ibn Majah 313

    "Do not make istijmar with bones or dung … … it is the rizq of the jinn."Bukhari 3800

    "There is no Istijmar with less than three stones and if you make istijmar make it odd."

    Bukhari 161, Muslim 237, Musnad Imam Ahmad 7180

    You cannot make istijmar with the food of men either

    The women have to make istinja with water first.

    11 - IT IS FORBIDDEN TO SPEAK IN THE TOILET, EXCEPT WITH SHARI'AH PERMIT.

    "A man said salaam to the Prophet (saw) while he was in the toilet, he did not answer the salaam."An-Nasaa'i 37, Ibn Majah 353

    Imam Nawawi said.

    - It is allowed only for the necessity of the toilet, (eg. To ask for stones, or water.)
    - Or to warn people in an emergency etc


    [Sharh Muslim]



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  • #2
    Originally posted by Al-ghurabah
    OBM opinion, in open space is HARAM, in close place, if you avoid it for the sake of Allah, there is reward.
    al muhajiroun hey i thought some of the opinions looked dodgy, it is biddah to reccomend sitting down and going toilet hey, still as crazy as ever i see
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Al-ghurabah

      7 - TO STAND OR SIT DURING URINATION.
      The Prophet (saw) did both, so we accept both. And anybody who says there is a recommendation either way, then it is an innovation.
      Although its permissible to urinate sitting down and urinate standing up, it is actually reccomended to urinate sitting down.

      Question :

      What is the Shari ruling regarding standing while urinating?
      There is a hot debate here regarding this. Wile some claim that it is permissible others claim it is haram. Their argument is that there is a hadith in which Aisha says that whoever tells you that the prophet urinated while standing do not believe him. Please clarify the issue.

      Answer :
      Praise be to Allaah.

      It is not haraam for a man to urinate standing up, but it is Sunnah for him to urinate sitting down, because ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “Whoever tells you that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to urinate standing up, do not believe him. He only ever used to urinate sitting down.” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, al-Tahaarah, 12; he said, this is the most saheeh report on this topic. It was also classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan al-Tirmidhi, no. 11). And because this is more concealing, and it reduces the risk of any drops of urine splashing up onto him.

      It was narrated from ‘Umar, Ibn ‘Umar and Zayd ibn Thaabit (may Allaah be pleased with them) that it is allowed to urinate standing up on the condition that there is no risk of drops of urine splashing onto one’s body or clothes, and that one does not expose one's ‘awrah, because al-Bukhaari and Muslim narrated from Hudhayfah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came to a garden belonging to some people, and urinated standing up. There is no contradiction between this and the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), because it is possible that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did that because he was in a place where he was unable to sit down, or he did that to show the people that it is not haraam. This does not contradict the basic principle mentioned by ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), that he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) urinated sitting down, because it is Sunnah, it is not something waajib (obligatory) which it is forbidden to go against. And Allaah knows best.

      Fatawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 5/88 .

      Shaykh Ibn Baaz said,
      There is nothing wrong with urinating standing up, especially when there is a need to do so, if the place is covered and no one will see the ‘awrah of the one who is urinating and no drops of urine will get on him, because it was narrated from Hudhayfah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) went to the garden of some people and urinated standing up. (Saheeh, agreed upon). But it is better to urinate sitting down, because this is what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) usually did, and it is more effective in covering the ‘awrah and less likely to result in any drops of urine getting on him.
      (www.islam-qa.com)
      Last edited by Abdurahman; 23-10-05, 02:52 PM.

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      • #4
        Re: Etiquette of going to the toilet

        My co-worker friend is self-described Muslim. He and I share a small bathroom in our office. Unfortunately he has a daily habit of urinating on the toilet seat. I asked him why he does it and he denied doing it, though he did tell me "It couldn't be me since I urinate sitting down." He and I are the only two people using this bathroom. His denial obviously stems from embarrassment.
        How can I re approach this subject without further embarrassing him? It's really disgusting and very inconsiderate in my opinion.

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        • #5
          Re: Etiquette of going to the toilet

          lol Sorry i couldnt help but laugh at that! Indeed it must be embarrassing for whoever it is, but seeing as there is just the two of you... Are you sure it was urine you had seen? Just to be on the safe side, stick a sign or 'post it' stating 'Please urinate sitting down' in the toilet area. Maybe he or whoever it is, will think again next time Insha'ALLAH...
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          • #6
            Re: Etiquette of going to the toilet

            Originally posted by finger View Post
            My co-worker friend is self-described Muslim. He and I share a small bathroom in our office. Unfortunately he has a daily habit of urinating on the toilet seat. I asked him why he does it and he denied doing it, though he did tell me "It couldn't be me since I urinate sitting down." He and I are the only two people using this bathroom. His denial obviously stems from embarrassment.
            How can I re approach this subject without further embarrassing him? It's really disgusting and very inconsiderate in my opinion.
            muslims wash with water after going to the toilet its most likely water not urine. im sure now you have mentioned it, he will be sure to dry the seat next time.
            "O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you swerve, and if you distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do." [An-Nisa 4:135]

            The Prophet :saw: said:

            "Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa'ah and dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for 'asabiyyah (nationalism/tribalism/partisanship) or calling to 'asabiyyah, or assisting 'asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah."

            muslim

            Narrated 'Abdullah:

            The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief)." sahih bukhari


            "Creeping upon you is the diseases of those people before you: envy and hatred. And hatred is the thing that shaves. I do not say it shaves the hair but it shaves the religion!

            By the One in whose Hand is my soul, you will not enter paradise until you believe, and you will not believe until you love one another. Certainly, let me inform you of that which may establish such things: spread the greetings and peace among yourselves."

            [Recorded by Imam Ahmad and Al-Tirmidhi]

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            • #7
              Re: Etiquette of going to the toilet

              Also remember after urinating you must wash that area, therefore it could be water you have seen. Simple answer is to lift the seat afterwards and the water will run off, hopefully the seat will dry...
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              And peace be upon the apostles and praise be to God, the Lord of the worlds! [Holy Quran - As Saffat]
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              • #8
                Re: Etiquette of going to the toilet

                funny how a kaafir is accusing a muslim of urinating on the seat, probably ****ed on the seat himself.

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                • #9
                  Re: Etiquette of going to the toilet

                  Originally posted by Omar Mukhtar View Post
                  funny how a kaafir is accusing a muslim of urinating on the seat, probably ****ed on the seat himself.
                  It is ugly of a Muslim to talk about someone else the way you did. We are to live like the Prophet in this world, do you expect he would say something like that? Is that the way you want to attract non-Muslims to Islams by your lovely behavior?
                  It is possible that what he says is true. I've known Muslims who did worst in regards to the subject.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Etiquette of going to the toilet

                    cn someone explain the part wer it says u cnt urinate in water?

                    i know this is a bit embarrsaing but we need to know these things
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                    • #11
                      Re: Etiquette of going to the toilet

                      Originally posted by *hijab* View Post
                      cn someone explain the part wer it says u cnt urinate in water?

                      i know this is a bit embarrsaing but we need to know these things
                      here sis it explained by imam an nawawi

                      Jabir ibn Abdullah

                      "The Prophet (saw) said: "It is forbidden to urinate in stagnant water" Muslim 281, Musnad Imam Ahmad 14258, Ibn Majah 343

                      For greater reason it is not allowed to defecate in it

                      Imam Nawawi said: "If the water is a lot and is flowing and attached to the seas or river, it is permissible or makrouh."

                      If it is a child, it is ok if it is not stagnant, but otherwise take it generally whether stagnant or flowing.


                      so if its a river or sea ( moving water ) then its ok insha Allah, but if its a pool of standing water ( the kind that collects in rocks, or puddles after rainfall ) then u cant wa Allahu alam.
                      "O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you swerve, and if you distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do." [An-Nisa 4:135]

                      The Prophet :saw: said:

                      "Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa'ah and dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for 'asabiyyah (nationalism/tribalism/partisanship) or calling to 'asabiyyah, or assisting 'asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah."

                      muslim

                      Narrated 'Abdullah:

                      The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief)." sahih bukhari


                      "Creeping upon you is the diseases of those people before you: envy and hatred. And hatred is the thing that shaves. I do not say it shaves the hair but it shaves the religion!

                      By the One in whose Hand is my soul, you will not enter paradise until you believe, and you will not believe until you love one another. Certainly, let me inform you of that which may establish such things: spread the greetings and peace among yourselves."

                      [Recorded by Imam Ahmad and Al-Tirmidhi]

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                      • #12
                        Re: Etiquette of going to the toilet

                        Originally posted by `asiya View Post
                        here sis it explained by imam an nawawi

                        Jabir ibn Abdullah

                        "The Prophet (saw) said: "It is forbidden to urinate in stagnant water" Muslim 281, Musnad Imam Ahmad 14258, Ibn Majah 343

                        For greater reason it is not allowed to defecate in it

                        Imam Nawawi said: "If the water is a lot and is flowing and attached to the seas or river, it is permissible or makrouh."

                        If it is a child, it is ok if it is not stagnant, but otherwise take it generally whether stagnant or flowing.


                        so if its a river or sea ( moving water ) then its ok insha Allah, but if its a pool of standing water ( the kind that collects in rocks, or puddles after rainfall ) then u cant wa Allahu alam.
                        jazakallahkhair...how about the water in the toilets we have nowadays?
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                        • #13
                          Re: Etiquette of going to the toilet

                          Originally posted by *hijab* View Post
                          jazakallahkhair...how about the water in the toilets we have nowadays?
                          its moving water eh, as in it flushes away so its not the same as water that is standing :)
                          "O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you swerve, and if you distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do." [An-Nisa 4:135]

                          The Prophet :saw: said:

                          "Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa'ah and dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for 'asabiyyah (nationalism/tribalism/partisanship) or calling to 'asabiyyah, or assisting 'asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah."

                          muslim

                          Narrated 'Abdullah:

                          The Prophet, said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief)." sahih bukhari


                          "Creeping upon you is the diseases of those people before you: envy and hatred. And hatred is the thing that shaves. I do not say it shaves the hair but it shaves the religion!

                          By the One in whose Hand is my soul, you will not enter paradise until you believe, and you will not believe until you love one another. Certainly, let me inform you of that which may establish such things: spread the greetings and peace among yourselves."

                          [Recorded by Imam Ahmad and Al-Tirmidhi]

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                          • #14
                            Re: Etiquette of going to the toilet

                            Originally posted by `asiya View Post
                            its moving water eh, as in it flushes away so its not the same water that is standing :)
                            ok lol
                            check out this blog>>>http://myworldmuslimah.wordpress.com/

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                            • #15
                              Re: Etiquette of going to the toilet

                              Originally posted by finger View Post
                              My co-worker friend is self-described Muslim. He and I share a small bathroom in our office. Unfortunately he has a daily habit of urinating on the toilet seat. I asked him why he does it and he denied doing it, though he did tell me "It couldn't be me since I urinate sitting down." He and I are the only two people using this bathroom. His denial obviously stems from embarrassment.
                              How can I re approach this subject without further embarrassing him? It's really disgusting and very inconsiderate in my opinion.
                              you walk up to him and say, look, its only me and you here

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