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    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

    Originally posted by *asiya* View Post
    Hudhayfah radhiAllaahu `anhu narrates that he once asked Nabi sallallaahu `alayhi wasallam "0 Rasulullaah sallallaahu `alayhi wasallam When will people forsake enjoining what is good and forbidding what is evil, whilst these two deeds are the chief actions of righteous people?"

    Rasulullaah sallallaahu `alayhi wasallam replied, "When that which afflicted the Bani Israa'eel afflicts you as well."
    "0 Rasulullaah sallallaahu `alayhi wasallam What was it that afflicted the Bani Israa'eel?" Hudhayfah asked.

    Rasulullaah sallallaahu `alayhi wasallam replied, ''When (for worldly gain) the good amongst you become lenient towards the sinners, when the knowledge of Deen goes to the worst amongst you and when leadership goes to the youngsters. When this happens, you will suffer adversities that will keep coming your way and towards which you will keep going."

    Reference: Tabraani. Haythami (Vol. 7 Pg.286)
    This one also has a narrator that the muhadditheen differ over, but seeing that this is also for fadhaa'il so there's no problem in narrating it.

    Wallaahu A`lam.



    "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


    Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.


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      Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

      Originally posted by *asiya* View Post
      (Addressing the people) Umar radhiallaahu anh once said, 'When you people see a fool dishonouring people, what prevents you from opposing him?" When the people admitted that they feared abuse from the person, Umar radhiallaahu anh said, "In that case, you will be unable to be witnesses (for the Ambiyaa on the Day
      of Qiyaamah)."

      Uthmaan radhiallaahu anh once said, "Enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil before the worst amongst you are given authority over you and then when even
      the best of you make du'aa against them, their du'aas will not be accepted."

      Reference: Ibn Abi Shaybah, Abu Ubayd in his Ghareeb and Ibn Abi Dunya in his Samt, as quoted in Kanzuf Ummaal (Vo\.2 Pg.139).

      Ibn Abi shaybah, as quoted in Kanzul Ummaal (Vo1.2 Pg.139).



      sorry theres a few but do u know if these hadith are sahih, and is their translation to english correct ? barakAllahu feek amin

      These two are statements of Sahaabah and are not hadeeth per se, but their meanings are correct and are similar to the ahaadeeth.

      Wallaahu A`lam.



      "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


      Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.


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        Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

        Assalamu alaykum wa rahamtullah,

        Could you help me find the correct wording and reference for a hadith like this: Love (or play) with your children for seven years, teach them for seven years, be their friend for seven years.

        Another thing, this is not really a hadith but something I heard and was wondering if it was correct. Is it true that the Prophet sallahu alayhi wa sallam married a woman and divorced her before consummating the marriage because she had a white spot on her neck/back that she had not disclosed before marriage?

        JazakAllah khair.
        Blessed is He in Whose Hand is the Dominion, and He is Able to do all things. (67.1)

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          Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

          Originally posted by inprogress View Post
          Assalamu alaykum wa rahamtullah,

          Could you help me find the correct wording and reference for a hadith like this: Love (or play) with your children for seven years, teach them for seven years, be their friend for seven years.

          Another thing, this is not really a hadith but something I heard and was wondering if it was correct. Is it true that the Prophet sallahu alayhi wa sallam married a woman and divorced her before consummating the marriage because she had a white spot on her neck/back that she had not disclosed before marriage?

          JazakAllah khair.
          :wswrwb:

          1: That is not a hadeeth, but rather it is reported as the words of some of the salaf, anyway it says: "Play with your son for seven years, then teach him manners for seven years, then accompany him for seven years, then let him go free."

          2: That is correct, the narration is a bit weak, but anyway this white spot this woman had was leprosy, so when Rasoolullaah Sallallaahu `Alayhi Wa Sallam saw it he (Sallallaahu `Alayhi Wa Sallam) divorced her.



          "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


          Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.


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            Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

            Originally posted by Abu Mus'ab View Post
            :wswrwb:

            1: That is not a hadeeth, but rather it is reported as the words of some of the salaf, anyway it says: "Play with your son for seven years, then teach him manners for seven years, then accompany him for seven years, then let him go free."

            2: That is correct, the narration is a bit weak, but anyway this white spot this woman had was leprosy, so when Rasoolullaah Sallallaahu `Alayhi Wa Sallam saw it he (Sallallaahu `Alayhi Wa Sallam) divorced her.

            Thanks for that, do you know who the first saying could be attributed to?

            Thanks for the explanation about the second one, I did not realize the cause of the spot and assumed it was a cosmetic thing. JazakAllah khair.
            Blessed is He in Whose Hand is the Dominion, and He is Able to do all things. (67.1)

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              Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

              Muawiyah: Nabi (saw): The Jews split-up into seventy-one or seventy-two sects. The Christians split-up into seventy-one or seventy-two sects. And my ummah will split into seventy-three sects, seventy-two in the Fire and one in Paradise: they are the Main Body (al-jama‘ah). (Abu dawud)

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                Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

                Originally posted by inprogress View Post
                Thanks for that, do you know who the first saying could be attributed to?

                Thanks for the explanation about the second one, I did not realize the cause of the spot and assumed it was a cosmetic thing. JazakAllah khair.
                The one i mentioned is attributed to Hadhrat `Umar Radhiallaahu `anhu (with some weakness in the chain), and something similar is attributed to Hadhrat `Ali Radhiallaahu `anhu.

                Wa Iyyaaki.
                Last edited by Abu Mus'ab; 13-03-13, 12:00 PM.



                "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


                Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.


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                  Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

                  Originally posted by muqallid View Post
                  Muawiyah: Nabi (saw): The Jews split-up into seventy-one or seventy-two sects. The Christians split-up into seventy-one or seventy-two sects. And my ummah will split into seventy-three sects, seventy-two in the Fire and one in Paradise: they are the Main Body (al-jama‘ah). (Abu dawud)
                  It's authentic.



                  "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


                  Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.


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                    Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

                    Originally posted by Abu Mus'ab View Post
                    :wswrwb:

                    1: That is not a hadeeth, but rather it is reported as the words of some of the salaf, anyway it says: "Play with your son for seven years, then teach him manners for seven years, then accompany him for seven years, then let him go free."

                    2: That is correct, the narration is a bit weak, but anyway this white spot this woman had was leprosy, so when Rasoolullaah Sallallaahu `Alayhi Wa Sallam saw it he (Sallallaahu `Alayhi Wa Sallam) divorced her.
                    any reason why Nabi (SAW) would do that... just wondering, sounds out of the ordinary.


                    edit: oh leprosy, okay I get it. seriously, why wouldn't someone bring that up before marriage tho?
                    La illaha ilallah

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                      Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

                      Originally posted by blanchoir View Post
                      any reason why Nabi (SAW) would do that... just wondering, sounds out of the ordinary.


                      edit: oh leprosy, okay I get it. seriously, why wouldn't someone bring that up before marriage tho?
                      You find it all over the world today too, people getting married and not disclosing that they have aids etc.



                      "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


                      Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.


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                        Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

                        :salams

                        I'm looking for a hadith where some men (I think it was two) came to the Prophet :saw:. They were clean-shaven and had long moustaches. The Prophet :saw: turned his face away from them when he saw them.
                        "And thus have We willed you to be a community of the middle way."
                        (al-Baqarah: 143)

                        Allahumma innaa na'udhu bika min an nushrika bika shai-an na'lamuh; wa nastaghfiruka limaa laa na'lam.

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                          Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

                          Originally posted by the_middle_road View Post
                          :salams

                          I'm looking for a hadith where some men (I think it was two) came to the Prophet :saw:. They were clean-shaven and had long moustaches. The Prophet :saw: turned his face away from them when he saw them.
                          The narration is reported in many seerah books, but this one is from the musannaf of imaam `abdur razzaaq:

                          حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ فُضَيْلٍ ، عَنْ حُصَيْنٍ ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ شَدَّادٍ ، قَالَ : كَتَبَ كِسْرَى إلَى بَاذَامَ : إِنِّي نُبِّئْتُ أَنَّ رَجُلاً يَقُولُ شَيْئًا لاَ أَدْرِي مَا هُوَ ، فَأَرْسِلْ إلَيْهِ ، فَلْيَقْعُدْ فِي بَيْتِهِ ، وَلاَ يَكُنْ مِنَ النَّاسِ فِي شَيْءٍ ، وَإِلاَّ فَلْيُوَاعِدْنِي مَوْعِدًا أَلْقَاهُ بِهِ ، قَالَ : فَأَرْسَلَ بَاذَامُ إِلَى رَسُولِ اللهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم رَجُلَيْنِ حَالِقِي لِحَاهُمَا ، مُرْسِلِي شَوَارِبِهِمَا ، فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم : مَا يَحْمِلُكُمَا عَلَى هَذَا ؟ قَالَ : فَقَالاَ لَهُ : يَأْمُرُنَا بِهِ الَّذِي يَزْعُمُونَ أَنَّهُ رَبُّهُمْ ، قَالَ : فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم : لَكِنَّا نُخَالِفُ سُنَّتَكُمْ ، نَجُزُّ هَذَا ، وَنُرْسِلُ هَذَا.
                          قَالَ : فَمَرَّ بِهِ رَجُلٌ مِنْ قُرَيْشٍ طَوِيلُ الشَّارِبِ ، فَأَمَرَهُ رَسُولُ اللهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَنْ يَجُزَّهُمَا.
                          قَالَ : فَتَرَكَهُمَا بِضْعًا وَعِشْرِينَ يَوْمًا ، ثُمَّ قَالَ : اذْهَبَا إِلَى الَّذِي تَزْعُمُونَ أَنَّهُ رَبُّكُمَا ، فَأَخْبِرَاهُ أَنَّ رَبِّي قَتَلَ الَّذِي يَزْعُمُ أَنَّهُ رَبُّهُ ، قَالاَ : مَتَى ؟ قَالَ : الْيَوْمَ ، قَالَ : فَذَهَبَا إِلَى بَاذَامَ فَأَخْبَرَاهُ الْخَبَرَ ، قَالَ : فَكَتَبَ إِلَى كِسْرَى ، فَوَجَدُوا الْيَوْمَ هُوَ الَّذِي قُتِلَ فِيهِ كِسْرَى.


                          And yes it is authentic.



                          "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


                          Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.


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                            Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

                            :jkk:

                            It doesn't really mention in there that the Prophet :saw: turned his face away though? That's the part I was looking for. Is something like that mentioned in any hadith?
                            "And thus have We willed you to be a community of the middle way."
                            (al-Baqarah: 143)

                            Allahumma innaa na'udhu bika min an nushrika bika shai-an na'lamuh; wa nastaghfiruka limaa laa na'lam.

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                              Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

                              Originally posted by the_middle_road View Post
                              :jkk:

                              It doesn't really mention in there that the Prophet :saw: turned his face away though? That's the part I was looking for. Is something like that mentioned in any hadith?
                              That is mentioned in the narration of imaam at tabari rahimahullaah in his taareekh, and by imaam ibn katheer rahimahullaah in al bidaayah wan nihaayah:

                              ودخلا على رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وقد حلقا لحاهما، وأعفيا شواربهما، فكره النظر إليهما وقال: ويلكما من أمركما بهذا؟ قالا: أمرنا ربنا، يعنيان كسرى، فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: ولكن ربي أمرني بإعفاء لحيتي، وقصّ شاربي



                              "The `Aalim knows who is a Jaahil, because he used to be a Jaahil before. But the Jaahil does not know who is an `Aalim, because he was never an `Aalim before."


                              Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah Rahimahullaah in Majmoo`ul Fataawaa.


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                                Re: Have a Hadeeth and want to know its authenticity?

                                Can you give more information on this hadith. This site mentions that Shaykh al-Albani classified it as sahih, Shaykh Muhammad Salah (of Huda TV) said it is weak. Imam Abu Dawood himself said that its missing a narrator. Can you mention what other scholars have said?
                                http://sunnah.com/abudawud/34/85


                                Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:

                                Asma, daughter of AbuBakr, entered upon the Messenger of Allah wearing thin clothes. The Messenger of Allah turned his attention from her. He said: O Asma', when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this, and he pointed to her face and hands.

                                Abu Dawud said: This is a mursal tradition (i.e. the narrator who transmitted it from 'Aishah is missing) Khalid b. Duraik did not see 'Aishah.

                                حَدَّثَنَا يَعْقُوبُ بْنُ كَعْبٍ الأَنْطَاكِيُّ، وَمُؤَمَّلُ بْنُ الْفَضْلِ الْحَرَّانِيُّ، قَالاَ حَدَّثَنَا الْوَلِيدُ، عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ بَشِيرٍ، عَنْ قَتَادَةَ، عَنْ خَالِدٍ، - قَالَ يَعْقُوبُ ابْنُ دُرَيْكٍ - عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، رضى الله عنها أَنَّ أَسْمَاءَ بِنْتَ أَبِي بَكْرٍ، دَخَلَتْ عَلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَعَلَيْهَا ثِيَابٌ رِقَاقٌ فَأَعْرَضَ عَنْهَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَقَالَ ‏ "‏ يَا أَسْمَاءُ إِنَّ الْمَرْأَةَ إِذَا بَلَغَتِ الْمَحِيضَ لَمْ تَصْلُحْ أَنْ يُرَى مِنْهَا إِلاَّ هَذَا وَهَذَا ‏"‏ ‏.‏ وَأَشَارَ إِلَى وَجْهِهِ وَكَفَّيْهِ ‏.‏ قَالَ أَبُو دَاوُدَ هَذَا مُرْسَلٌ خَالِدُ بْنُ دُرَيْكٍ لَمْ يُدْرِكْ عَائِشَةَ رضى الله عنها ‏.‏

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                                Sahih (Al-Albani)
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                                Reference
                                : Sunan Abi Dawud 4104
                                In-book reference
                                : Book 34, Hadith 85
                                English translation
                                : Book 33, Hadith 4092
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