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    So i dont quite get it , how can this be allowed? ... Isnt marriage in Islam about man giving rights to his wife? .... then how can this be implemented and certain clauses made in the contract which will not entitle the wife to all her rights as his wife? ...




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    Misyaar marriage: definition and rulings

    Praise be to Allaah.

    Firstly:

    Misyaar marriage is where a man does a shar’i marriage contract with a woman, meeting the conditions of marriage, but the woman gives up some of her rights such as accommodation, maintenance or the husband’s staying overnight with her.

    The reasons that have led to the emergence of this kind of marriage are many, such as:

    1. Increase in the number of single women who are unable to get married, because young men are put off marriage due to the high cost of dowries and the costs of marriage, or because there is a high divorce rate. In such circumstances, some women will agree to be a second or third wife and to give up some of their rights.

    2. Some women need to stay in their family home, either because they are the only care-givers for family members, or because the woman has a handicap and her family do not want the husband to be burdened with something he cannot bear, and he stays in touch with her without having to put too great a burden on himself, or because she has children and cannot move with them to her husband’s house, and other reasons.

    3. Some married men want to keep some women chaste because they need that, or because they need variety and halaal pleasure, without that affecting the first wife and her children.

    4. In some cases a husband may want to conceal his second marriage from his first wife, for fear of the consequences that may result and affect their relationship.

    5. The man travels often to a certain place and stays there for lengthy periods. Undoubtedly staying there with a wife is safer for him than not doing so.

    These are the most prominent reasons for the emergence of this kind of marriage.


    Secondly:

    The scholars differed concerning the ruling on this type of marriage, and there are several opinions, ranging from the view that it is permissible, to the view that it is permitted but makrooh, or that it is not allowed. Here we should point out several things.

    1. None of the scholars have said that it is invalid or is not correct; rather they disallowed it because of the consequences that adversely affect the woman, as it is demeaning to her, and that affects the society as this marriage contract is taken advantage of by bad people, because a woman could claim that a boyfriend is a husband. It also affects the children whose upbringing will be affected by their father’s absence.

    2. Some of those who said that it was permissible have retracted that view. Among the most prominent scholars who said that it was permissible were Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz and Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez Aal al-Shaykh; and among the most prominent scholars who said that it was permissible and then retracted it was Shaykh al-‘Uthaymeen; among the most prominent scholars who said that it is not allowed at all was Shaykh al-Albaani.

    3. Those who said that it is permissible did not say that a time limit should be set as in the case of mut’ah. And they did not say that it is permissible without a wali (guardian), because marriage without a wali is invalid. And they did not say that the marriage contract may be done without witnesses or without being announced, rather it is essential to do one of the two.


    Thirdly:

    Opinion of the scholars concerning this type of marriage:

    1. Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about Misyaar marriage; this kind of marriage is where the man marries a second, third or fourth wife, and the wife is in a situation that compels her to stay with her parents or one of them in her own house, and the husband goes to her at various times depending on the circumstances of both. What is the Islamic ruling on this type of marriage?

    He replied:

    There is nothing wrong with that if the marriage contract fulfils all the conditions set out by sharee’ah, which is the presence of the wali and the consent of both partners, and the presence of two witnesses of good character to the drawing up of the contract, and both partners being free of any impediments, because of the general meaning of the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “The conditions that are most deserving of being fulfilled are those by means of which intimacy becomes permissible for you” and “The Muslims are bound by their conditions.” If the partners agree that the woman will stay with her family or that her share of the husband’s time will be during the day and not during the night, or on certain days or certain nights, there is nothing wrong with that, so long as the marriage is announced and not hidden. End quote.

    Fataawa ‘Ulama’ al-Balad al-Haraam (p. 450, 451) and Jareedah al-Jazeerah issue no. 8768, Monday 18 Jumaada al-Oola 1417 AH.

    However, some students of the Shaykh said that he later retracted the view that it is permissible, but we could not find anything in writing to prove that.


    2. Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez Aal al-Shaykh (may Allaah preserve him) was asked:

    There is a lot of talk about misyaar marriage being haraam or halaal. We would like a definitive statement about this matter from you, with a description of its conditions and obligations, if it is permissible.

    He replied:

    The conditions of marriage are that the two partners should be identified and give their consent, and there should be a wali (guardian) and two witnesses. If the conditions are met and the marriage is announced, and they do not agree to conceal it, either the husband, the wife or their guardians, and he offered a waleemah or wedding feast, then this marriage is valid, and you can call it whatever you want after that. End quote.

    Jareedah al-Jazeerah, Friday 15 Rabee’ al-Thaani 1422 AH, issue no. 10508.


    3. Shaykh al-Albaani was asked about Misyaar marriage and he disallowed it for two reasons:

    (i) That the purpose of marriage is repose as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And among His Signs is this, that He created for you wives from among yourselves, that you may find repose in them, and He has put between you affection and mercy. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who reflect” [al-Room 30:21]. But this is not achieved in this kind of marriage.

    (ii) It may be decreed that the husband has children with this woman, but because he is far away from her and rarely comes to her, that will be negatively reflected in his children’s upbringing and attitude.

    See: Ahkaam al-Ta’addud fi Daw’ al-Kitaab wa’l-Sunnah (p. 28, 29).


    4. Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) used to say that it was permissible, then he stopped saying that because of the negative effects, as it was poorly applied by some wrongdoers.


    Finally, what we think is:

    That if Misyaar marriage fulfils the conditions of a valid marriage, namely the proposal and acceptance, the consent of the wali and witnesses or announcement of the marriage, then it is a valid marriage contract, and it is good for some categories of men and women whose circumstances call for this type of marriage. But this may be taken advantage of by some whose religious commitment is weak, hence this permissibility should not be described as general in application in a fatwa, rather the situation of each couple should be examined, and if this kind of marriage is good for them then it should be permitted, otherwise they should not be allowed to do it. That is to prevent marriage for the sake of mere pleasure whilst losing the other benefits of marriage, and to prevent the marriage of two people whose marriage we may be certain is likely to fail and in which the wife will be neglected, such as one who will be away from his wife for many months, and will leave her on her own in an apartment, watching TV and visiting chat rooms and going on the internet. How can such a weak woman spend her time? This is different from one who lives with her family or children and has enough religious commitment, obedience, chastity and modesty to help her be patient during her husband’s absence.

    And Allaah knows best.
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      Re: Nikah Misyar ?

      some points made are totally unislamic if im not mistaken such as ...

      3. Some married men want to keep some women chaste because they need that, or because they need variety and halaal pleasure, without that affecting the first wife and her children.
      arent we supposed to treat all the wives in the same manner? ...

      4. In some cases a husband may want to conceal his second marriage from his first wife, for fear of the consequences that may result and affect their relationship.
      that is just creating an extra point while infact its quite similar to the 3rd point.

      5. The man travels often to a certain place and stays there for lengthy periods. Undoubtedly staying there with a wife is safer for him than not doing so.
      so if stays there for 3 months , then the wife has to live without him for 9 months? .... wow .... jz wow.


      But my main point is that marriage is actually sunnah and Muhammad(sws) never did this kind of thing so isnt this then classified as bidah or even haraam?



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        Re: Nikah Misyar ?

        Misyaar Nikah:

        http://daruliftaa.com/question.asp?t...nID=q-21475354

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          Re: Nikah Misyar ?

          Originally posted by IbnulQayyim View Post
          that is one of the most well balanced views on this topic i have read, may Allah swt reward the sheikh, ameen.
          Daw'ud... is retired from ummah forum

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            Originally posted by dawud_uk View Post
            that is one of the most well balanced views on this topic i have read, may Allah swt reward the sheikh, ameen.
            Ameen

            After all he is Muftee Muhammad Ibn Aadam

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              Re: Nikah Misyar ?

              Originally posted by IbnulQayyim View Post
              Ameen

              After all he is Muftee Muhammad Ibn Aadam
              I try to follow the salafi manhaj, not the hizbul salafiyyah, there are a lot of good sheikhs and scholars, especially the deobandi ones i respect and would certainly seek help and fataawah from, especially as i follow hanafi fiqh.
              Daw'ud... is retired from ummah forum

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                So is it not such an excellent Bidah :) ?

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                  Originally posted by al faqeer View Post
                  So is it not such an excellent Bidah :) ?
                  as i have found out , the woman agrees to the points herself , so what is our issue in their personal matters?



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                    Originally posted by noobz View Post
                    as i have found out , the woman agrees to the points herself , so what is our issue in their personal matters?
                    This Nikah is sometimes very good for certain teenagers

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                      Re: Nikah Misyar ?

                      Originally posted by IbnulQayyim View Post
                      This Nikah is sometimes very good for certain teenagers
                      though they didnt use the term nikkah misyar, i have known brothers who married their wives whilst at uni, college and in one case 2ndary school (both were 14) and so had conditions identical to this to make the marriage work whilst they went through education.

                      it is something which can work for some people, but no one, not even the scholars saying it is permissable is saying it should become the norm.
                      Daw'ud... is retired from ummah forum

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                        Re: Nikah Misyar ?

                        Originally posted by dawud_uk View Post
                        though they didnt use the term nikkah misyar, i have known brothers who married their wives whilst at uni, college and in one case 2ndary school (both were 14) and so had conditions identical to this to make the marriage work whilst they went through education.

                        it is something which can work for some people, but no one, not even the scholars saying it is permissable is saying it should become the norm.
                        If only people learned to live with Ikhtilaaf as the Salaf did

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                          and if she gets prego ... then what ? ...



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                          • #14
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                            can students get married under nikah misyar and well they forgo alot of their responsibilities in the contract UNTIL the husband finishes his education and gets a job?



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                              In most of the cases, It is a temporary relationship between men and women for sexual pleasure. In this relationship the woman relinquishes all her rights that are available to her in an Islamic marriage. It is claimed that several Salafi scholars, including Saudi Grand Mufti Shaikh Abdulaziz al-Shaikh endorsed Misyar relationship between men and women in their fatwas.

                              The terms and conditions of Misyar and Shia practice of Mutah (sexual pleasure) are same except that in Misyar, it is claimed that the partners do not fix a time to end their sexual relationship and are free to leave each other anytime they wish. In Mutah, they fix a specific time, like one week, one month etc., and at the end of that period both man and woman are considered as legally separated. In Mutah and Misyaar, man and woman need not live together under the same roof. They can meet whenever the man demands and spend a few hours together in privacy for sex and go to their homes quietly.

                              Misyar is close to a " Koensdeler relationship ". Koensdeler is a Danish name given to a girl/woman who is neither your wife, nor girl friend. There is no social binding or loyalty in the relationship. She is just a sexual mate and not a prostitute who entertains with sex with anybody for money. Whenever you want, call each other, meet, have sex, and both of you are on your way. If you are fed up with the lady (Koensdeler), just call her and tell her that you don't want to continue having sex with her. That is the end of your relationship.

                              Generally, It is a tourism marriage practiced by rich people of Gulf countries who go on vacation to countries like Yemen, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and other countries. In these countries they take advantage of poor Muslim families by fake marriages with young, rather very young girls between the ages of 9 to 16 years in collusion with local middlemen and agents who are paid for these services.

                              There are two types of fake marriages:

                              (I) The woman is made aware that the fake marriage is being perpetrated for a short time to have sex with her. In this case, she bargains and gets paid an agreed amount in advance.
                              (II) The woman and her parents are not made aware of the intentions of rich-visitors. Poor parents and the young girl consider that it is a regular Islamic marriage and that after marriage she will go with her husband. These fake marriages are carried out with the knowledge and collusion of middlemen and agents. In these deceptive marriages, people from rich Gulf countries spend 15 days to one month with these poor hapless young girls in hotels. At the end of their vacation, they disappear in thin air leaving behind the devastated young girl and her parents. There are thousands of young Muslim girls who have become victim to this practice. These girls later get involved in prostitution in their countries.

                              Fatwa of Shaikh Ibn Adam HA:

                              With due respect to him and all other knowledgeable people, I want to put my words as hereunder.

                              1: Theoretically if all the conditions of nikah are taken care of, then nikah is valid but here, as aforesaid, these conditions arent applied.

                              2: Example of Hazrat Sawda rz.a's request doesn't apply in this case because the said proposal came after a certain period from her; and not at the time of nikah which is the condition of misyar to be valid along with other conditions.

                              3: I would like to know if any nikah-misyar was held during Khairlquroon.

                              Allah swt knows best.

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