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  • Confused... 79:30... Dr. Zakir Naik translation

    The verse in question is 79:30. Dr. Zakir Naik translates this verse as saying the following:

    4. Earth is geo-spherical in shape

    The Qur’an mentions the actual shape of the earth in the following verse:

    “And we have made the earth egg shaped”. [Al-Qur’an 79:30]

    The Arabic word Dahaha means egg shaped. It also means an expanse. Dahaha is derived from Duhiya which specifically refers to the egg of an ostrich which is geospherical in shape, exactly like the shape of the earth.


    Source: http://www.islamicvoice.com/February...r-DrZakirNaik/
    I have two translations of the Qur'an sitting in front of me that don't match Dr. Naik's translation:

    Originally posted by Abdullah Yusuf Ali
    And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse)
    Originally posted by Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali and Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan
    And after that He spread the earth
    Can a speaker of arabic please clarify the correct translation of this verse? Jazakallah Khair.
    Last edited by haque; 28-07-09, 02:58 PM.
    Salam! :)

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    Re: Confused... 79:30... Dr. Zakir Naik translation

    Bumped.
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      Re: Confused... 79:30... Dr. Zakir Naik translation

      Actually, they match.
      د-ح-ى is the root, its derivatives may be used to mean "expand-extend" or "egg دحية"
      Most arabic speakers use the word baid بيض for eggs while dahya دحية is still used in many countries and slangs but to lesser extent.
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        Re: Confused... 79:30... Dr. Zakir Naik translation

        Zakir Naik is wrong though.

        An egg is stretched at the end of its poles whereas the Earth is compressed at the end of its poles.


        If it was to do with eggs, all of the translators would have said egg at the start but the vast majority consider the other interpretation, that it is a vast expanse and this is in line with science. :)
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          Re: Confused... 79:30... Dr. Zakir Naik translation

          Originally posted by Magic. View Post
          Zakir Naik is wrong though.

          An egg is stretched at the end of its poles whereas the Earth is compressed at the end of its poles.


          If it was to do with eggs, all of the translators would have said egg at the start but the vast majority consider the other interpretation, that it is a vast expanse and this is in line with science. :)
          "ba'al" means egg in arabic. Do not say he( Dr. Zaik) is wrong because the reason why the Qur'an is stil in arabic is for it to be preserved and its translation may vary. and to top it up, most of the verses in the Qur'an are allegorical and not literal, so if it talks about the earth being egg shaped, we all know the egg is not a perfect sphere but the earth itself is not a perfect sphere too. may Allah guide us all.

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            Re: Confused... 79:30... Dr. Zakir Naik translation

            Originally posted by habdulghaneou View Post
            "ba'da" means egg in arabic. Do not say he( Dr. Zaik) is wrong because the reason why the Qur'an is stil in arabic is for it to be preserved and its translation may vary. and to top it up, most of the verses in the Qur'an are allegorical and not literal, so if it talks about the earth being egg shaped, we all know the egg is not a perfect sphere but the earth itself is not a perfect sphere too. may Allah guide us all.
            sorry the word is "ba'da" not "ba'al", same in Qur'an 79:30

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              Re: Confused... 79:30... Dr. Zakir Naik translation

              Originally posted by Magic. View Post
              Zakir Naik is wrong though.

              An egg is stretched at the end of its poles whereas the Earth is compressed at the end of its poles.


              If it was to do with eggs, all of the translators would have said egg at the start but the vast majority consider the other interpretation, that it is a vast expanse and this is in line with science. :)
              :salams

              Where did you get your degree in the Arabic language? Which madrasa did you graduate from? Who was your teachers?

              Would like those answered please, :jkk:

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                Re: Confused... 79:30... Dr. Zakir Naik translation

                The Quran can continue to be interpreted in the light of new knowledge till the last day [as long as it's meanings are within the meanings of the Quranic Arabic], thus there was no need to say 'egg shaped' back in the past; it is only now being interpreted as thus so people can see how the Quran accords to a more precise shape of the earth:

                THE EARTH'S GEOID SHAPE

                After that He smoothed out the earth. (Qur'an, 79:30)

                In the above verse, the word "daha" is used in the original Arabic. It, translated as "smoothed out," comes from the word "dahv," meaning "to spread." Although the word "dahv" also means to cover or to set out, the meaning of the verb is more than just a prosaic setting out, since it describes setting out in a circle.

                The concept of roundness is also present in other words derived from "dahv." For example, the word "dahv" also refers to children dropping a ball into a hole in the ground, games involving throwing stones into holes and games played with walnuts. Words derived from that root are also used for an ostrich making a nest, cleaning stones from where it is about to lie down, the place where it lays its eggs and the egg itself.

                Indeed, the Earth is round, in a manner reminiscent of an egg. The slightly flattened spherical shape of the Earth is known as geoid. From that point of view, the use of the word "daha" contains important information about the shape that Allah has given to the Earth. For hundreds of years, people imagined the Earth to be completely flat and only learned the truth thanks to technology. Yet, this fact was revealed in the Qur'an fourteen centuries ago.

                http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_17.html

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