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  • The Destruction of the Arabs in Akhiru Zaman

    [Disclaimer: Read this thread with caution. I've retracted from misapplying some of these Ahadith to our current situation before Imam al-Mahdi]

    Assalamu alaykum

    There seems to be a number of Prophetic indications that the majority of Arabs would be destroyed in Akhiru Zaman. I believe it's vital to be conscious of this information in order to make sense of modern politics and how we should prepare for the future. Please post any related Ahadith or lectures about this topic, inshaAllah.
    Last edited by AmantuBillahi; 12-01-20, 08:36 PM.

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    Narrated by Talhah son of Malik: Allah's Messenger(saws) said, "One of the signs of the approach of the Last Hour will be the destruction of the Arabs." [Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 5991]

    Narrated by Hudhayfah: The Prophet(saws) said, "The last hour will not come till you have killed your leader ( Imaam), fight together with your swords, and your worst ones inherit your worldly goods." [Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 5364]

    Narrated by Abdullah ibn Amr: Allah's Messenger(saws) said, "There will be civil strife which will wipe out the Arabs, and their slain will go to Hell. During it the tongue will be more severe than blows of the sword." [Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 5401]

    Umm Sharik reported that the messenger of Allah said: "The people will flee from the Dajjaal (the Anti- Christ) till they will take shelter in the mountains." Umm Sharik said that she asked: "Where will be the Arabs at this time?" He answered: "They will be few (in number)." [Sahih Muslim 7035]

    Narrated Zainab bint Jahsh: That the Prophet (ﷺ) once came to her in a state of fear and said, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. Woe unto the Arabs from a danger that has come near. An opening has been made in the wall of Gog and Magog like this," making a circle with his thumb and index finger. Zainab bint Jahsh said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Shall we be destroyed even though there are pious persons among us?" He said, "Yes, when the evil person will increase." [Bukhari 3346]

    You can find its various forms collected here:

    https://sunnah.com/search/woe-to-the-arabs

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    • #3
      The Prophet(saws) said: “Three will fight one another for your treasure, each one of them the son of a caliph, but none of them will gain it. Then the black banners will come from the east, and they will kill you in an unprecedented manner.” Then he mentioned something that I do not remember, then he said: “When you see him, then pledge your allegiance to him even if you have to crawl over the snow, for that is the caliph of Allah, the Mahdi.” [Ibn Maajah in as-Sunan (no. 4084)]

      https://islamqa.info/en/answers/1365...on-of-a-caliph

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      • #4
        Signs Of The End Times - Warfare | Yasir Qadhi



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        • #5
          Abisali Some of these Ahadith were from what you sent me a few months back. Are you familiar with any lectures or websites that deal with this topic?

          JazakAllahu Khayr

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          • #6
            The Armageddon & The End Times | Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan

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            • #7
              Here's an interesting article:

              https://sunnahonline.com/library/par...ay-of-judgment

              Chapter: What Has been Related Regarding a Fitna that Will Sweep the Arabs Away

              Upon 'Abdullah ibn Amr (may Allah be pleased with them both) who said: The Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said:
              "There will be a fitna that will cleanse (tastanzifu) the Arabs - its dead will be in the Hellfire. During this time the tongue will be more severe (ashad) than a blow of the sword." Reported by Ahmad, Abu Dawud, At-Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah. At-Tirmidhi said that this hadith is gharib


              At-Tuwaijari then comments on the narrators of this narration and after concluding that the hadith is hasan he proceeds to explain it as follows:
              "[Regarding the Prophet's] statement 'cleanse the Arabs,' Ibn Al-Athir and Ibn Al-Manzur [see author's note 1] have said: It means it will encompass them in destruction. It is said (in Arabic): istanzafat ash-shay', if you take it all ... While Ali al-Qari has said in Al-Mirqat [see author's note 2]: It has been said that it means it will purify them from filth (al-ardhal) [see author's note 3] and the people of al-fitan."

              "I (i.e. At-Tuwajari) say: This [second] opinion is strong in light of the evidence, even though the first opinion is stronger in light of the [Arabic] language.

              "What bears witness to what Al-Qari has said is what has been mentioned regarding the fitna known as ad-duhayma' [see author's note 4]. [Where the Prophet said]: 'It will not leave any single individual of this Ummah but slap him on the cheek.' In [the hadith on the duhayma' fitna, the Prophet] said: 'Until the people become two camps: one of faith with no hypocrisy and one of hypocrisy with no faith.' "


              At-Tuwaijri continues:
              "This shows that the duhayma' fitna will clean the believers from the people of fitan, doubt and hypocrisy; not that it will annihilate them completely. And the duhayma' fitna is the greatest fitna that will occur prior to the appearance of the Antichrist."



              At-Tuwaijri then continues:
              "[Further] evidence that the fitna will not consume all the Arabs is what Muslim reports in his Sahih and At-Tirmidhi in his Jami' upon Jabir ibn 'Abdullah (may Allah be pleased with them both) who said: Umm Sharik informed that she heard the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) say:'The people will flee from Dajjal to the mountains.' Umm Sharik said: 'O Messenger of Allah where will be the Arabs that day?' He replied: 'They will be few.' At-Tirmidhi said this hadith is hasan sahih gharib.


              At-Tuwaijari then cites another hadith in Ibn Majah of the same meaning as the one above but with the Prophet's reply being: "They [i.e., the Arabs] will be few, most of them that day will be in Jerusalem, their imam will be a righteous man ... " The hadith then continues to describe the descent of Jesus.


              At-Tuwaijari then cites another evidence that not all the Arabs will be annihilated in the Prophet's hadith in Al-Bukhari and Muslim that the Banu Tamim will be most severe of his Ummah against the Antichrist.


              At-Tuwaijari then comments, "The Banu Tamim is a large tribe of Arabs."

              He then relates the hadith reported by Al-Hakim regarding the peace between the Muslims and Ar-Rum (Christian Europe) to fight a common enemy and the victory of the Muslims over that enemy, followed by the treachery of the Europeans against the Muslim expeditionary force. In the hadith after the Europeans treacherously massacre the Muslim contingent they say to their boy-king, "We have sufficied you the edge of the Arabs." In other words, we have ended their ability to attack/fight. The hadith then describes how after defeating the Arab army, they will then rally their forces to attack the Middle East coming under eighty banners, under each banner twelve thousand soldiers (80 x 12,000 = 960,000 men!).

              After discussing the isnad of this hadith, At-Tuwaijari points out that the proof is the reference to the Arabs which shows that the Great War (Al-Malhama al-Kubra) [see author's note 5] will be between the Arabs and Europe.

              He then relates a hadith from Ahmad and others that the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said: "The Great War, and the conquest of Constantinople, and the appearance of the Antichrist will [all occur] within seven months [of each other]."

              At-Tuwaijari then surmises that "these four ahadith all indicate that a large number of Arabs will remain after the great fitna mentioned at the beginning of the chapter. Upon this, [the Prophet's] statement, 'cleanse the Arabs,' means that it will consume most of them in destruction. The juxtaposition of the majority when saying all is prevalent in Arabic. And Allah knows best."

              As for the Prophet's statement, " ... its dead will be in the Hellfire."

              At-Tuwajari then explains that some scholars have interpreted this to mean that since they did not intend by fighting to raise Allah's Word, or push back an injustice, or assist the people of the truth; but rather they sought to show off and sought wealth and power (al-mulk), they are in Hell.


              At-Tuwaijari then mentions a number of hadith about fighting under a 'blind' banner (rayah 'immiya), i.e., a call of blind partisanship, be it tribal, national, etc.


              At-Tuwaijari then explains how the tongue during this fitna is more severe than the sword as follows:

              "The confirmation of this is seen in our times in the spread of radio broadcasts and newspapers in all corners of the earth. The tongues of those who speak through [these media], insulting, bellitting, mentioning the faults of those who disagree with them, spreading fitan, and whipping up hatred and animosities is much greater than the blow of the sword."



              At-Tuwaijari then continues by saying:
              "This fitna [which will clean the Arabs] has yet to occur, and perhaps it is the duhayma' fitna which will occur just prior to the appearance of the Antichrist."


              He then mentions a number of hadith which tie a deaf, blind fitna and the destruction of the Arabs. One hadith has the wording, "Woe to the Arabs of an evil drawing nigh, its shadow has fallen on [them] by the Lord of the Ka'bah, its shadow has fallen on them." I.e., drawn close so that it is as if its shadow is casted upon them.

              Some of these hadith mention that the fitna will occur due to competing claims of jahiliyyah, i.e., call of nationalism, tribalism, etc.

              At-Tuwajari then remarks:
              "Much death and killing has occurred in our times due to the call of jahiliya especially due to the removal of the imama and the khilafah and it being replaced by jumhuriya." [see author's note 6] ... This is the pure resemblance of the infidel nations and following their ways as one sandal resembles the other. It is not far-fetched that the duhayma' fitna will be due to such call of jahiliyyah. Refuge is sought with Allah from the fitan."


              He then concludes with a couple of hadith regarding the fitna in general and the eventually total war with Europe.

              I also remember that elsewhere in his book he ties the duhayma' fitna with the drying up/retraction of the Euphrates and its uncovering a mountain of gold.
              Last edited by AmantuBillahi; 08-01-20, 10:44 PM.

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              • #8
                This portion of the article seems to indicate the current relationship between the Sunnis and the West:

                "He then relates the hadith reported by Al-Hakim regarding the peace between the Muslims and Ar-Rum (Christian Europe) to fight a common enemy and the victory of the Muslims over that enemy, followed by the treachery of the Europeans against the Muslim expeditionary force. In the hadith after the Europeans treacherously massacre the Muslim contingent they say to their boy-king, "We have sufficied you the edge of the Arabs." In other words, we have ended their ability to attack/fight. The hadith then describes how after defeating the Arab army, they will then rally their forces to attack the Middle East coming under eighty banners, under each banner twelve thousand soldiers (80 x 12,000 = 960,000 men!).

                After discussing the isnad of this hadith, At-Tuwaijari points out that the proof is the reference to the Arabs which shows that the Great War (Al-Malhama al-Kubra) [see author's note 5] will be between the Arabs and Europe.

                He then relates a hadith from Ahmad and others that the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said: "The Great War, and the conquest of Constantinople, and the appearance of the Antichrist will [all occur] within seven months [of each other]."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by AmantuBillahi View Post
                  Abisali Some of these Ahadith were from what you sent me a few months back. Are you familiar with any lectures or websites that deal with this topic?

                  JazakAllahu Khayr


                  I am sorry, I vaguely remember the discussion, you'll have to excuse me because I never had a great memory. In regards to your question, much of the stuff that I have learned was when I lived in Palestine over 20 years ago in high school. I don't trust websites too much because I never know who runs them and if what they post is true. That is why I love this site and sadden to see it the way it is these days. One of the main sites like like to use is Islamqa.info because they provide lots of references, even though they seem too harsh in some things, I think it is better than many other sites.

                  Thank you for this thread, I'll be sure to watch the videos tomorrow, inshallah.

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                  • #10
                    The speech of the prophet is recorded in the Quran

                    In the instance of the mention of the hadiths pertaining to the conquest of Constantinople being marker for the signno Dajjal as well as him coming from Syria conspicuously mirror infighting between Shia and Sunni after the fall of Constantinople

                    The Hadith are at best derivative from the Holy Quran at worst is what has happened and division as well as the staging this implies along with the proclivity to shift in weak and strong lines of narrations that is only compounded with conflicting reports on some of The Companions actions after The Prophet Transcended this plain of existence I human presences

                    There are these Hadith in Arabic that have the benefit of being able to correlate the terminology down to the rationality of the letter

                    However a discussion on the demise of a race at this point in time and most likely all others is intrinsically twisted

                    What answers and what course does such information do but what it did under the Ottomans with an unruly account o Selim I and his war on Persia after Constantinople

                    It's no doubt articles laid bare for inspection

                    Maybe we think about the term divide an conquer and wonder about the division of the ummah

                    And not about prospects for a genocide on a rehearsed on going generation polytheistic judeo Christian agenda
                    This is way more sick than your take for granted smash em idol worshipper

                    What is recalled is ayat about the Jew in Babylon and the connection with demons under Prophet Suliman

                    In sort the corruption of the word and thus how we use it

                    ان شی الله
                    we increase on knowledge on these histories toward mediation between Muslims and clean all this up

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by AmantuBillahi View Post
                      Assalamu alaykum

                      There seems to be a number of Prophetic indications that the majority of Arabs would be destroyed in Akhiru Zaman. I believe it's vital to be conscious of this information in order to make sense of modern politics and how we should prepare for the future. Please post any related Ahadith or lectures about this topic, inshaAllah.
                      Wa 'alaykum al-salam,

                      I have a general note: In order to prepare oneself for the future and to react properly to modern politics one should adhere to the clear cut rulings laid out by the divine law and NOT depend on speculative interpretations of Ahadith regarding the end times. A lot of these Ahadith can only be properly understood when they occur and not prior to that.

                      In our time there exist some people who have thrown these clear cut rulings out of the window and replaced it with their wrong interpretations to justify their wrong actions.
                      The primary example is what happened in the beginning of the Syrian civil war when some Salafis, Shi'as and even people affiliated with classical Sunni Islam started taking Ahadith regarding Syria out of their actual context and trying to force it on our reality today.
                      The result was: They called to war and destruction between the Muslims themselves, which is clearly prohibited according to the divine law. There are huge number of Ahadith which warns us to take part in wars that are between Muslims, but these aforementioned people still managed to disregard all that and to put their speculative interpretations above the clear cut rulings of the divine law.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by AmantuBillahi View Post
                        This portion of the article seems to indicate the current relationship between the Sunnis and the West:

                        "He then relates the hadith reported by Al-Hakim regarding the peace between the Muslims and Ar-Rum (Christian Europe) to fight a common enemy and the victory of the Muslims over that enemy, followed by the treachery of the Europeans against the Muslim expeditionary force. In the hadith after the Europeans treacherously massacre the Muslim contingent they say to their boy-king, "We have sufficied you the edge of the Arabs." In other words, we have ended their ability to attack/fight. The hadith then describes how after defeating the Arab army, they will then rally their forces to attack the Middle East coming under eighty banners, under each banner twelve thousand soldiers (80 x 12,000 = 960,000 men!).

                        After discussing the isnad of this hadith, At-Tuwaijari points out that the proof is the reference to the Arabs which shows that the Great War (Al-Malhama al-Kubra) [see author's note 5] will be between the Arabs and Europe.

                        He then relates a hadith from Ahmad and others that the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said: "The Great War, and the conquest of Constantinople, and the appearance of the Antichrist will [all occur] within seven months [of each other]."
                        Is the common enemy Iran or China? What would you think. Allahu 'Alam.

                        How are you viewing the current issue with Iran, aren't you Persian? I know you're sunni but what do you think?
                        وَاقْصِدْ فِي مَشْيِكَ وَاغْضُضْ مِن صَوْتِكَ ۚ إِنَّ أَنكَرَ الْأَصْوَاتِ لَصَوْتُ الْحَمِيرِ - 31:19

                        And be moderate in your pace and lower your voice; indeed, the most disagreeable of sounds is the voice of donkeys."


                        أَلَمْ تَرَوْا أَنَّ اللَّهَ سَخَّرَ لَكُم مَّا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَأَسْبَغَ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعَمَهُ ظَاهِرَةً وَبَاطِنَةً ۗ وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَلَا هُدًى وَلَا كِتَابٍ مُّنِيرٍ - 31:20

                        Do you not see that Allah has made subject to you whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth and amply bestowed upon you His favors, [both] apparent and unapparent? But of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening Book [from Him].


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                        • #13
                          Yeah I feel qiyama is drawing soon, one of my dreams from 2013 showed a clock nearing a new day (the day of judgement is a day) and something in my dream told me it was ticking towards qiyama.

                          I was then told to repent to Allah while the clock ticked,

                          I just feel things in the world are wrapping up, but it is all Allah's decision. It could be far away from now. I wonder if Allah gave me so many heavy trials and sicknesses, to purify me with it cos of qiyama coming closer.

                          I like sharing my dreams with all of you, one showed me chasing dajjal near my new house, while I was in my old house. I didn't even know I would move here at all, which I did last monthl!! What does that even say, dajjal is soon?
                          Last edited by LailaTheMuslim; 09-01-20, 10:25 PM.
                          وَاقْصِدْ فِي مَشْيِكَ وَاغْضُضْ مِن صَوْتِكَ ۚ إِنَّ أَنكَرَ الْأَصْوَاتِ لَصَوْتُ الْحَمِيرِ - 31:19

                          And be moderate in your pace and lower your voice; indeed, the most disagreeable of sounds is the voice of donkeys."


                          أَلَمْ تَرَوْا أَنَّ اللَّهَ سَخَّرَ لَكُم مَّا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَأَسْبَغَ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعَمَهُ ظَاهِرَةً وَبَاطِنَةً ۗ وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يُجَادِلُ فِي اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَلَا هُدًى وَلَا كِتَابٍ مُّنِيرٍ - 31:20

                          Do you not see that Allah has made subject to you whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth and amply bestowed upon you His favors, [both] apparent and unapparent? But of the people is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening Book [from Him].


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                          Please take a look at my blog : http://thinkingmuslima.blogspot.co.uk/

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by AmantuBillahi View Post
                            This portion of the article seems to indicate the current relationship between the Sunnis and the West:

                            "He then relates the hadith reported by Al-Hakim regarding the peace between the Muslims and Ar-Rum (Christian Europe) to fight a common enemy and the victory of the Muslims over that enemy, followed by the treachery of the Europeans against the Muslim expeditionary force. In the hadith after the Europeans treacherously massacre the Muslim contingent they say to their boy-king, "We have sufficied you the edge of the Arabs." In other words, we have ended their ability to attack/fight. The hadith then describes how after defeating the Arab army, they will then rally their forces to attack the Middle East coming under eighty banners, under each banner twelve thousand soldiers (80 x 12,000 = 960,000 men!).

                            After discussing the isnad of this hadith, At-Tuwaijari points out that the proof is the reference to the Arabs which shows that the Great War (Al-Malhama al-Kubra) [see author's note 5] will be between the Arabs and Europe.

                            He then relates a hadith from Ahmad and others that the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said: "The Great War, and the conquest of Constantinople, and the appearance of the Antichrist will [all occur] within seven months [of each other]."
                            Brother, this does not refer to our current state. Sunni Muslims have no real leadership since 100 years (I mean the fall of the Ottoman Khilafa) and right now there is no common enemy of the Muslims and the Rum. Rather the Rum are our enemies and are continuing to fight us.
                            This Hadith is regarding the future and most likely regarding the time of Imam al-Mahdi, radhiallahu 'anhu.
                            As for the common enemy in the future: It could be China.

                            By the way: There are some people who use the above Hadith in order to justify the alliance of some of the leaders in our countries with the Americans and the accursed Zionists against other Muslims! This alliance is nothing less than treason and using this Hadith to justify this treason is indeed an evil thing to do. That's why I said that we should adhere to the clear rulings and not start making speculative interpretations.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Abu Sulayman View Post

                              Brother, this does not refer to our current state. Sunni Muslims have no real leadership since 100 years (I mean the fall of the Ottoman Khilafa) and right now there is no common enemy of the Muslims and the Rum. Rather the Rum are our enemies and are continuing to fight us.
                              This Hadith is regarding the future and most likely regarding the time of Imam al-Mahdi, radhiallahu 'anhu.
                              As for the common enemy in the future: It could be China.
                              It's highly possible that it's referring to our current political climate. We're living in Akhiru Zaman and the Saudis (who control the Hijaz and have the most authority in the Ummah) are literally in bed with the Romans (Banu Asfar/Caucasians). The common enemy is Iran/Hizballah/Houthis and their allies. The Arabs are being controlled by the West because they're weak, disunited and have no Khilafah. The next Khilafah which will be established is that of Imam Mahdi's and it will lead the armies in al-Malhamatul Kubra. Wa Allahu A'lam.

                              Please do not turn this into a Salafi vs Ashari debate. Stick to the topic and contribute with Hadiths and Tafsirs, inshaAllah.
                              Last edited by AmantuBillahi; 10-01-20, 02:51 AM.

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