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    Black flags of Khorasan

    Does anyone know if this hadith is da'eef, hassan or sahih? Which book can it be found?

    Any info on it would be help-ful.



    Thanks.
    "Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone elses opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation." -Orson Welles

    #2
    As requested.....

    The hadith concerning the black flags/ banners from Khurasaan are not Sahih but rather are either da'eef or even mowduh.

    Some related ma
    terial are as follows:

    Black Banners from Khurasan (Afghanistan) to Jerusalem

    Reported on a chain of transmission on the authority of Kaab "The sign of the Mahdi's appearance will be war banners coming from the west, lead by a man with a disability from "Kinda".

    (Nuaym son of Hammad, Al-Fitan page 205)

    Abu Abdullah Nuaim Ibn Hammad on a chain of transmission on the authority of Al Zuhari who said "The black flags will come from the East, led by mighty men, with long hair and beards, their surnames are taken from the names of their home towns (i.e. Khosti or from Khost etc.) and their first names are from a "Kunya".
    (Asmal Masalik Lieyyam Mahdiyy Maliki Li Kull-id Dunya Biemrillah-il Malik, Qalda bin Zayd)

    Narrated Abdullah ibn Hawalah al-Azdi: "The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) sent us on foot to get spoil, but we returned without getting any. When he saw the signs of distress on our faces, he stood up on our faces and said: O Allah, do not put them under my care, for I would be too weak to care for them; do not put them in care of themselves, for they would be incapable of that, and do not put them in the care of men, for they would choose the best things for themselves. He then placed his hand on my head and said: Ibn Hawalah, when you see the caliphate has settled in the holy land (i.e., Palestine), earthquakes, sorrows and serious matters will have drawn near and on that day the Last Hour will be nearer to mankind than this hand of mine is to your head.
    (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Jihad (Kitab Al-Jihad), Book 14, Number 2529)

    Ammar, the son of Yasir, may Allah be pleased with both of them, said: "When As-Sufyaani reaches Kufa and kills the supporters of the family of Muhammad, praise and peace be upon him, the Mahdi will come and the bearer of his Banner will be Shuayb, the son of Salih."

    Nuaim Ibn Hammad on a chain of transmission on the authority of Al Zuhari who said, "If the people of the black flag divide, then the people of the yellow banner will attack, they will gather in the canal of Egypt and the people of the East and the West will fight for seven (days or months or years)..."
    (Asmal Masalik Lieyyam Mahdiyy Maliki Li Kull-id Dunya Biemrillah-il Malik,
    Qalda bin Zayd)

    Muhammad, son of Al Hanaffia, said:"The Black Banners will come out for the children of Al Abbas. The other black banners will come from Khurasan. Their turbans will be black and their clothes white. At their front will be a man named Shuayb, the son of Salih, from Tamim. They will defeat the companions of The Sufyaani until he comes to the House of Jerusalem where he will establish his power for the Mahdi, and he will be supplied with three hundred (men) from Syria after his arrival and the matter will be settled for the Mahdi in seventy-two months (six years)."

    Said son of Al Musayyab reported: "The Black Banners will come from the East from the children of Al Abbas. Then there will remain whatsoever Allah wishes. Then, small Black Banners will come to fight a man from the children of Abu Sufyaan from the East. They will give their allegiance to the Mahdi."
    (Nuaym son of Hammad.)

    Al Hasan Al Basri said:
    "A man of medium stature will come from Ar-Ray (a far-eastern town). He will be dark and from the children of Tamim -- a Wasaj, named Shuayb son of Salih with four thousand men. Their clothes will be white and Banners black, and at his front is the Mahdi. He meets no one that he does not defeat and scatter."


    Abdullah, the son of Shuraykh, said:
    "With the Mahdi is the marked Banner of the Messenger of Allah, praise and peace be upon him."


    Ammar, the son of Yasir, may Allah be pleased with both of them, said:
    "The bearer of the Banner of the Mahdi is Shuayb, the son of Salih."

    Reported by Abu Said Al Khudri: "A man from my nation will come who speaks with my Sunnah and Allah, the Mighty, the Glorified will send showers of rain from the heavens so that the earth will produce its blessing. Through him the earth will be filled with fairness and justice just as it had been filled by oppression and injustice. He will govern this nation for seven years, and go to Jerusalem."

    (Abu Dawud, Al Hakim, At-Tirmidhi, Ahmad, son of Hibban, Muslim, Al Tabarani, Al Barudi and Abu Nuaym)

    On the authority of Thawban, the Messenger of Allah (upon whom be blessings and peace) said:The Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam said: "Before your treasure, three will kill each other -- all of them are sons of a different caliph but none will be the recipient. Then the Black Banners will appear from the East and they will kill you in a way that has never before been done by a nation."
    Thawban, a companion said: 'Then he said something that I do not remember by heart' then continued to say that the Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, said: "If you see him give him your allegiance, even if you have to crawl over ice, because surely he is the Caliph of Allah, the Mahdi. If you see the black (meaning war) flags coming from Khurasan (Afghanistan), join that army, even if you have to crawl over ice, for this is the army of the Caliph, the Mahdi and no one can stop that army until it reaches Jerusalem."

    (Son of Majah, Al Busiri, Al Hakim, Ahmad Nuaym, Ad-Daylami, Hasan, son of Sufyaan, and Abu Nuaym.)

    Related by Abu Hurayrah: The Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasan (Afghanistan). No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Jerusalem where they will erect their flags." (Tirmidhi)

    Ali said, The Prophet said, A man named al-Harith son of Hirath will come from Transoxania (Tajikistan). His army will be led by a man named Mansoor. He will be pave the way for and establish the government of the family of Muhammad, just as the Quraysh established the government of the Messenger of Allah. Every believer will be obliged to support them.
    (Abu-Dawud.)

    Buraidah says that Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam said: "There will be many armies after me. You must join that army which will come from Khurasaan." (Ibn Adi)

    Abu Hurairah says that Rasulullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasaan. No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Eela (Baitul Maqdas) where they will erect their flags."


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      #3
      : As requested.....



      regarding asking, pleading, begging bush to close guantanamo, it would be better that we make dua that Allah removes the muslims from such a humiliating place

      its not humiliating in terms of the brothers who are captive there, its humiliating for us as an ummah, that there are muslims held captive by the kuffar and with 1.2 billion muslims in the world, no one is rescuing, ransoming, or fighting for their release

      may Allah give those who imprisoned those muslims a more humiliating position in this world and the next, amin
      .لا نريد زعيما يخاف البيت الإبيض
      نريد زعيما يخاف الواحد الأحد
      دولة الإسلامية باقية





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        #4
        Re: : As requested.....

        hmmmm...
        Abu Hamzah Anas bin Malik, radiyallahu 'anhu, reported that the Prophet, sallallahu 'alayhi wasallam, said:
        "None of you truly believes (in Allah and in His religion) until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself"

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          #5
          Re: Black flags of Khorasan

          So does this mean those Black flags are shia ?

          So are those Shia gonne reach Jerusalem b4 us sunnis ? :)

          i dont think so

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            #6
            Re: Black flags of Khorasan

            Probably referring to Taliban. :D

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              #7
              Re: Black flags of Khorasan

              There are some of these related hadees to be found in Ahmed and Tirmidhi. Also in Muslim.

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                #8
                Re: Black flags of Khorasan

                Originally posted by khanbaba View Post
                Probably referring to Taliban. :D
                taliban ? I dont think so , and since when do they have black flags ?

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                  #9
                  Re: Black flags of Khorasan

                  al faqeer keep your politics out of this. thanks
                  "Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone elses opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation." -Orson Welles

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                    #10
                    Re: Black flags of Khorasan

                    Originally posted by Marwan View Post
                    al faqeer keep your politics out of this. thanks
                    Make me :) , I post what i like .

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                      #11
                      Re: Black flags of Khorasan

                      Originally posted by al faqeer View Post
                      taliban ? I dont think so , and since when do they have black flags ?
                      They do. >>>Google.

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                        #12
                        Re: Black flags of Khorasan

                        Nah - Al Faqeer is right. I guess it must mean the green pagri waley with their degs of steaming halwah and army of ragtag charsi malangs innit **roll eyes**
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                          #13
                          Well.....

                          Originally posted by AbuMubarak View Post


                          regarding asking, pleading, begging bush to close guantanamo, it would be better that we make dua that Allah removes the muslims from such a humiliating place

                          its not humiliating in terms of the brothers who are captive there, its humiliating for us as an ummah, that there are muslims held captive by the kuffar and with 1.2 billion muslims in the world, no one is rescuing, ransoming, or fighting for their release

                          may Allah give those who imprisoned those muslims a more humiliating position in this world and the next, amin
                          Nobody is pleading/ begging no kaffir let alone the Amir of the Shayateen for anything Akhy, we're espressing our thoughts and making our demands- whether we're actually in any position to do so or the kuffar listen or not.

                          Aside from that na'am alhamdulillah I agree with you in totallity.

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                            #14
                            Re: As requested.....

                            Originally posted by Abu Hurairah View Post
                            The hadith concerning the black flags/ banners from Khurasaan are not Sahih but rather are either da'eef or even mowduh.


                            only some of the 'salafi' ulema have classed them as being dhaeef and mauduh....
                            And Allh has set forth an example for those who believe, the wife of Fir'aun when she said: "My Lord! Build for me a home with You in Paradise, and save me from Fir'aun and his work, and save me from the people who are Zlimn


                            There is no nobility in anyone who lacks faith.

                            The wise man knows that the only fitting price for his soul is a place in Paradise.

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                              #15
                              Actually.....

                              Originally posted by al faqeer View Post
                              So does this mean those Black flags are shia ?

                              So are those Shia gonne reach Jerusalem b4 us sunnis ? :)

                              i dont think so
                              Al Faqueer the Shia have red and also yellow flags (Hizb'ul Shaytan) not black at all- the black flags/ banner are to be found held by Mujahideen in parts of Chychan and Khurasaan (present day Afghanistan) held by our Taliban brethren and their allies.
                              Originally posted by khanbaba View Post
                              There are some of these related hadees to be found in Ahmed and Tirmidhi. Also in Muslim.
                              Insha'allah if you quote them here it would be appreciated. :)
                              Originally posted by Al-Irhaab View Post
                              only some of the 'salafi' ulema have classed them as being dhaeef and mauduh....
                              So have the other non- Salafi 'ullema classed them as Sahih? If so which ones. :up:

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