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    "Aisha reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Every one of the children of Adam has been created with three hundred and sixty joints; so he who declares the Glory of Allah, praises Allah, declares Allah to be One, Glorifies Allah, and seeks forgiveness from Allah, and removes stone, or thorn, or bone from people's path, and enjoins what is good and forbids from evil, to the number of those three hundred and sixty-four, will walk that day having removed himself from Hell.

    (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Zakat (Kitab Al-Zakat), Book 005, Number 2199)"

    Narrated Buraydah ibn al-Hasib: "I heard the Apostle of Allah peace_be_upon_him) say: A human being has three hundred and sixty joints for each of which he must give alms. The people asked him: Who is capable of doing this? He replied: It may be mucus in the mosque which you bury, and something which you remove from the road; but if you do not find such, two rak'ahs in the forenoon will be sufficient for you.

    (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, General Behavior (Kitab Al-Adab), Book 41, Number 5222)"

    Beside from the beautiful teachings about Worshiping the One True Living GOD Almighty and removing obstacles from the paths of people, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him made a very important scientific claim, and that is: Our human bodies have 360 joints in them.

    Prior to 1995 it was thought that there are 340 joints in the human body. In 1995 a scientific institute proved that the internal ear consists of 10 joints each. Thus 20 joints were added and the discovery was made that the human body consists of 360 joints. Please refer to any medical encyclopedia on this.

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    Re: Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

    subhanaAllah! jazakAllahu khayr!

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    • #3
      Re: Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

      Subhanallah that is interesting gonna point that fact out to the scientists i know hehe
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      • #4
        Re: Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

        Originally posted by Amaara View Post
        Subhanallah that is interesting gonna point that fact out to the scientists i know hehe
        :up:

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        • #5
          Re: Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

          Well, ignoring the fact that it all depends on how you define joints (i.e. are they movable joints, or any two points where bones touch?) and ignoring the fact that different people have different numbers of bones and therefore different numbers of joints, and lastly ignoring the fact that the number of bones a person has changes over their lifetimes, let's just look at the one testable claim in this post.

          Prior to 1995 it was thought that there are 340 joints in the human body. In 1995 a scientific institute proved that the internal ear consists of 10 joints each. Thus 20 joints were added and the discovery was made that the human body consists of 360 joints.
          There is nothing in this paragraph that is true.

          There are only three bones in each ear. They are called the auditory ossicles, and consist of the malleus (hammer), the incus (anvil) and the stapes (stirrup). And there are only two "joints" between them per ear.

          They are the joints between 1) the malleus and incus, and between 2) the incus and stapes. There are no other bones in the ear, and no other joints.

          http://education.yahoo.com/reference...subject?id=231

          Therefore:

          If scientists before 1995 thought that there were only 340 joints, then after this paper (which is never referenced, by the way) they would have only thought there were 344.

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          • #6
            Re: Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

            Originally posted by ammarcool View Post
            "Aisha reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Every one of the children of Adam has been created with three hundred and sixty joints; so he who declares the Glory of Allah, praises Allah, declares Allah to be One, Glorifies Allah, and seeks forgiveness from Allah, and removes stone, or thorn, or bone from people's path, and enjoins what is good and forbids from evil, to the number of those three hundred and sixty-four, will walk that day having removed himself from Hell.

            (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Zakat (Kitab Al-Zakat), Book 005, Number 2199)"

            Narrated Buraydah ibn al-Hasib: "I heard the Apostle of Allah peace_be_upon_him) say: A human being has three hundred and sixty joints for each of which he must give alms. The people asked him: Who is capable of doing this? He replied: It may be mucus in the mosque which you bury, and something which you remove from the road; but if you do not find such, two rak'ahs in the forenoon will be sufficient for you.

            (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, General Behavior (Kitab Al-Adab), Book 41, Number 5222)"

            Beside from the beautiful teachings about Worshiping the One True Living GOD Almighty and removing obstacles from the paths of people, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him made a very important scientific claim, and that is: Our human bodies have 360 joints in them.

            Prior to 1995 it was thought that there are 340 joints in the human body. In 1995 a scientific institute proved that the internal ear consists of 10 joints each. Thus 20 joints were added and the discovery was made that the human body consists of 360 joints. Please refer to any medical encyclopedia on this.

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            This is all referenced from answering-islam, an Islamophobic site, so I don't get what you're all celebrating.

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            • #7
              Re: Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

              Originally posted by THHuxley View Post
              Well, ignoring the fact that it all depends on how you define joints (i.e. are they movable joints, or any two points where bones touch?) and ignoring the fact that different people have different numbers of bones and therefore different numbers of joints, and lastly ignoring the fact that the number of bones a person has changes over their lifetimes, let's just look at the one testable claim in this post.


              There is nothing in this paragraph that is true.

              There are only three bones in each ear. They are called the auditory ossicles, and consist of the malleus (hammer), the incus (anvil) and the stapes (stirrup). And there are only two "joints" between them per ear.

              They are the joints between 1) the malleus and incus, and between 2) the incus and stapes. There are no other bones in the ear, and no other joints.

              http://education.yahoo.com/reference...subject?id=231

              Therefore:

              If scientists before 1995 thought that there were only 340 joints, then after this paper (which is never referenced, by the way) they would have only thought there were 344.
              doesnt the cartilage have joints tho?

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              • #8
                Re: Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

                Originally posted by Umar` View Post
                doesnt the cartilage have joints tho?
                No.

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                • #9
                  Re: Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

                  Originally posted by Saadet View Post
                  This is all referenced from answering-islam, an Islamophobic site, so I don't get what you're all celebrating.
                  ditto
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                  • #10
                    Re: Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

                    uhhhhhhhhh so cool alhumdulilah, allah hu akbar but i read that the human body has 360 joints before from a hadith

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                    • #11
                      Re: Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

                      Originally posted by THHuxley View Post
                      Well, ignoring the fact that it all depends on how you define joints (i.e. are they movable joints, or any two points where bones touch?) and ignoring the fact that different people have different numbers of bones and therefore different numbers of joints, and lastly ignoring the fact that the number of bones a person has changes over their lifetimes, let's just look at the one testable claim in this post.


                      There is nothing in this paragraph that is true.

                      There are only three bones in each ear. They are called the auditory ossicles, and consist of the malleus (hammer), the incus (anvil) and the stapes (stirrup). And there are only two "joints" between them per ear.

                      They are the joints between 1) the malleus and incus, and between 2) the incus and stapes. There are no other bones in the ear, and no other joints.

                      http://education.yahoo.com/reference...subject?id=231

                      Therefore:

                      If scientists before 1995 thought that there were only 340 joints, then after this paper (which is never referenced, by the way) they would have only thought there were 344.

                      The joint is a point of articulation of two bones, a bone and gristle, or two gristles in any part of the human body.

                      The total number of joints, according to scientists, is:

                      1- Skull joints: 86

                      2- Throat joints: 6

                      3- Thorax joints: 66

                      4- Spine and Pelvis joints: 76

                      5- Upper limbs: 32 x 2 = 64

                      6- Lower limbs: 31 x 2= 62


                      Total number of joints: 360

                      Prior to 1995 it was thought that there are 340 joints in the human body!!!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

                        Originally posted by THHuxley View Post
                        No.
                        well regardless of wether the scientists confirm this or not it is still the truth.
                        i wonder how many people in the past went astray when they heard that the heavens and the earth were once joined then seperated, as Allah Has Said, because they couldnt or wouldnt just accept it and wanted to reason everything according to their limited intellects.
                        Last edited by Umar`; 24-03-07, 06:24 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

                          Originally posted by ammarcool View Post
                          "Aisha reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Every one of the children of Adam has been created with three hundred and sixty joints; so he who declares the Glory of Allah, praises Allah, declares Allah to be One, Glorifies Allah, and seeks forgiveness from Allah, and removes stone, or thorn, or bone from people's path, and enjoins what is good and forbids from evil, to the number of those three hundred and sixty-four, will walk that day having removed himself from Hell.

                          (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Zakat (Kitab Al-Zakat), Book 005, Number 2199)"

                          Narrated Buraydah ibn al-Hasib: "I heard the Apostle of Allah peace_be_upon_him) say: A human being has three hundred and sixty joints for each of which he must give alms. The people asked him: Who is capable of doing this? He replied: It may be mucus in the mosque which you bury, and something which you remove from the road; but if you do not find such, two rak'ahs in the forenoon will be sufficient for you.

                          (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, General Behavior (Kitab Al-Adab), Book 41, Number 5222)"

                          Beside from the beautiful teachings about Worshiping the One True Living GOD Almighty and removing obstacles from the paths of people, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him made a very important scientific claim, and that is: Our human bodies have 360 joints in them.

                          Prior to 1995 it was thought that there are 340 joints in the human body. In 1995 a scientific institute proved that the internal ear consists of 10 joints each. Thus 20 joints were added and the discovery was made that the human body consists of 360 joints. Please refer to any medical encyclopedia on this.

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                          Sahih Muslim
                          Analysis(classification): Marfu
                          SADAQA INCLUDES ALL TYPES OF GOOD ACTS

                          حَدَّثَنَا حَسَنُ بْنُ عَلِيٍّ الْحُلْوَانِيُّ حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو تَوْبَةَ الرَّبِيعُ بْنُ نَافِعٍ حَدَّثَنَا مُعَاوِيَةُ يَعْنِي ابْنَ سَلَّامٍ عَنْ زَيْدٍ أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ أَبَا سَلَّامٍ يَقُولُ حَدَّثَنِي عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ فَرُّوخَ أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ عَائِشَةَ تَقُولُ إِنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ إِنَّهُ خُلِقَ كُلُّ إِنْسَانٍ مِنْ بَنِي آدَمَ عَلَى سِتِّينَ وَثَلَاثِ مِائَةِ مَفْصِلٍ فَمَنْ كَبَّرَ اللَّهَ وَحَمِدَ اللَّهَ وَهَلَّلَ اللَّهَ وَسَبَّحَ اللَّهَ وَاسْتَغْفَرَ اللَّهَ وَعَزَلَ حَجَرًا عَنْ طَرِيقِ النَّاسِ أَوْ شَوْكَةً أَوْ عَظْمًا عَنْ طَرِيقِ النَّاسِ وَأَمَرَ بِمَعْرُوفٍ أَوْ نَهَى عَنْ مُنْكَرٍ عَدَدَ تِلْكَ السِّتِّينَ وَالثَّلَاثِ مِائَةِ السُّلَامَى فَإِنَّهُ يَمْشِي يَوْمَئِذٍ وَقَدْ زَحْزَحَ نَفْسَهُ عَنْ النَّارِ قَالَ أَبُو تَوْبَةَ وَرُبَّمَا قَالَ يُمْسِي و حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ الدَّارِمِيُّ أَخْبَرَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ حَسَّانَ حَدَّثَنِي مُعَاوِيَةُ أَخْبَرَنِي أَخِي زَيْدٌ بِهَذَا الْإِسْنَادِ مِثْلَهُ غَيْرَ أَنَّهُ قَالَ أَوْ أَمَرَ بِمَعْرُوفٍ وَقَالَ فَإِنَّهُ يُمْسِي يَوْمَئِذٍ و حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ نَافِعٍ الْعَبْدِيُّ حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ كَثِيرٍ حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيٌّ يَعْنِي ابْنَ الْمُبَارَكِ حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى عَنْ زَيْدِ بْنِ سَلَّامٍ عَنْ جَدِّهِ أَبِي سَلَّامٍ قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ فَرُّوخَ أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ عَائِشَةَ تَقُولُ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ خُلِقَ كُلُّ إِنْسَانٍ بِنَحْوِ حَدِيثِ مُعَاوِيَةَ عَنْ زَيْدٍ وَقَالَ فَإِنَّهُ يَمْشِي يَوْمَئِذٍ

                          [1007] 'A'isha رضى الله عنها narrated that the Allaah's Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم said: “Allaah has created in every man 360 joints, so whoever declares the magnificence of Allaah, praises Allaah, declares Allaah to be One, Glorifies Allaah, and seeks forgiveness from Allaah, and removes stone, or thorn, or bone from people's path, and enjoins what is good and forbids what is evil, to the number of those three hundred and sixty joints, will walk that day having removed himself from Hell.” Abu Taubah said: “will enter the evening” (i.e. ‘enter into evening’ instead of ‘walk’).

                          The number {of Joints} in Arabic is in green text and is the same. Also, we get further confirmation that the number is 360 by use of عَدَدَ تِلْكَ (to the number of those)removing every shadow of doubt and/or any discrepancy in number. If it were 364 (three hundred sixty-four) then in Arabic it would have stated like اَرُبَعَةُ السِّتِّينَ وَالثَّلَاثِ مِائَةِ, but we know that there isnoاَرُبَعَةُ for four {4} in original Hadeeth حديثI have cited above.

                          Sahih Muslim
                          Analysis (classification): Marfu
                          SADAQA INCLUDES ALL TYPES OF GOOD ACTS

                          حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ أَسْمَاءَ الضُّبَعِيُّ حَدَّثَنَا مَهْدِيُّ بْنُ مَيْمُونٍ حَدَّثَنَا وَاصِلٌ مَوْلَى أَبِي عُيَيْنَةَ عَنْ يَحْيَى بْنِ عُقَيْلٍ عَنْ يَحْيَى بْنِ يَعْمَرَ عَنْ أَبِي الْأَسْوَدِ الدِّيلِيِّ عَنْ أَبِي ذَرٍّ أَنَّ نَاسًا مِنْ أَصْحَابِ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالُوا لِلنَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ذَهَبَ أَهْلُ الدُّثُورِ بِالْأُجُورِ يُصَلُّونَ كَمَا نُصَلِّي وَيَصُومُونَ كَمَا نَصُومُ وَيَتَصَدَّقُونَ بِفُضُولِ أَمْوَالِهِمْ قَالَ أَوَ لَيْسَ قَدْ جَعَلَ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ مَا تَصَّدَّقُونَ إِنَّ بِكُلِّ تَسْبِيحَةٍ صَدَقَةً وَكُلِّ تَكْبِيرَةٍ صَدَقَةً وَكُلِّ تَحْمِيدَةٍ صَدَقَةً وَكُلِّ تَهْلِيلَةٍ صَدَقَةً وَأَمْرٌ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ صَدَقَةٌ وَنَهْيٌ عَنْ مُنْكَرٍ صَدَقَةٌ وَفِي بُضْعِ أَحَدِكُمْ صَدَقَةٌ قَالُوا يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ أَيَأتِي أَحَدُنَا شَهْوَتَهُ وَيَكُونُ لَهُ فِيهَا أَجْرٌ قَالَ أَرَأَيْتُمْ لَوْ وَضَعَهَا فِي حَرَامٍ أَكَانَ عَلَيْهِ فِيهَا وِزْرٌ فَكَذَلِكَ إِذَا وَضَعَهَا فِي الْحَلَالِ كَانَ لَهُ أَجْرًا

                          [1006] Abu Dharr reported: Some of the people of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (SAW) said to him: Messenger of Allah, the rich have taken (all the) rewards. They observe prayer as we do; they keep the fasts as we keep, and they give charity out of their surplus riches. Upon this he (the Holy Prophet) said: Has not prescribed for you (a course) by which you can (also) do charity? In every declaration of the glorification of Allah (i.e. saying Subhan Allah) there is a charity. In every Takbir (i.e. saying Allah-o-Akbar) is a charity. In every praise of His (saying al-Hamdu Lillah) is a Charity. In every declaration that He is One (La ilaha ill-Allah) is a charity. Enjoining of good is a charity. In every forbidding of what is evil is a charity, and in man's sexual intercourse (with his wife) there is a charity. They (the Companions) said: Messenger of Allah is there reward for that who satisfies his sexual passion among us? He said: Do you see, if he were to devote it to something forbidden, would it not be a sin on his part-? Similarly, if he were to devote it to something lawful, he should have a reward for it.

                          Sunan Abu Dawud: Chapter 1881
                          REMOVING A HARMFUL THING FROM THE ROAD

                          [5222] Abu Buraidah said: I heard the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: A human being has three hundred and sixty joints for each of which he must give alms. The people asked him: Who is capable of doing this? He replied: It may be mucus in the mosque which you bury, and something which you remove from the road; but if you do not find such, two rak'ahs in the forenoon will be sufficient for you.

                          [5223] Abu Dharr reported the Prophet (may peace be upon him) as saying: In the morning alms are due from every bone in man's fingers and toes. Salutation to everyone he meets is alms; enjoining good is alms; forbidding what is disreputable is alms; removing what is harmful from the road is alms; having sexual intercourse with his wife is alms. The people asked: He fulfils his desire, Apostle of Allah; is it alms? He replied: Tell me if he fulfilled his desire where he had no right, would he commit a sin? He then said: Two rak’ahs, which one prays in the forenoon, serve instead of all that.

                          Please notice that both Ahadeeth احاديث are classified as Marfu, which means that this isnad اسناد of the Hadeeth حديثgoes back to theProphet Muhammad صلی الله عليه وسلم though it might be broken somewhere.
                          Surah Fussilat 30
                          Verily, those who say: "Our Lord is All‚h (Alone)," and then they stand firm, on them the angels will descend (at the time of their death) (saying): "Fear not, nor grieve! But receive the glad tidings of Paradise which you have been promised!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

                            Originally posted by ammarcool View Post
                            The joint is a point of articulation of two bones, a bone and gristle, or two gristles in any part of the human body.
                            No, it is not.

                            A joint is an articulation between bones. Cartilage might be involved at the interface, but the articulation between two pieces of cartilage is not a joint.

                            Originally posted by ammarcool
                            The total number of joints, according to scientists, is:

                            1- Skull joints: 86

                            2- Throat joints: 6

                            3- Thorax joints: 66

                            4- Spine and Pelvis joints: 76

                            5- Upper limbs: 32 x 2 = 64

                            6- Lower limbs: 31 x 2= 62

                            Total number of joints: 360
                            What scientists? I note that you are providing no reference for these otherwise silly numbers. That is (of course) because there are no scientists who support them.

                            For example, what is a "throat joint?" There is only a single bone in the throat, the hyoid. Are you double counting those spine joints that are in the neck? It appears that you are.


                            It appears that you are just making stuff up. You are trying to force the count to fit the Qur'an, and that is called falsifying your evidence.

                            Originally posted by ammarcool
                            Prior to 1995 it was thought that there are 340 joints in the human body!!!
                            No, it was not. The number of joints thought to exist in the human body has not changed for more than 300 years.

                            And 20 "new" joints were not discovered in 1995.

                            Again, you are just making stuff up.

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                              Re: Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

                              Originally posted by Umar` View Post
                              well regardless of wether the scientists confirm this or not it is still the truth.
                              Now that's just dumb.

                              If the scientists refute this (as they have) then it is rather obviously not the truth.
                              Originally posted by Umar
                              i wonder how many people in the past went astray when they heard that the heavens and the earth were once joined then seperated, as Allah Has Said, because they couldnt or wouldnt just accept it and wanted to reason everything according to their limited intellects.
                              Probably none.

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