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  • Linkdeutscher
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    Originally posted by SwordofKhaine View Post

    Huh. Okay.

    You were quite the firebrand before. You seem calmer now.
    Yes son.

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  • SwordofKhaine
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    Originally posted by Linkdeutscher View Post

    Zahiri generally refers to the fiqhi madhhab known as Zahirriyah.

    Yeah I am.
    Huh. Okay.

    You were quite the firebrand before. You seem calmer now.

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  • Linkdeutscher
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    Originally posted by SwordofKhaine View Post

    Aren't they similar in how they interpret Quran?

    Okay so are you athari then?
    Zahiri generally refers to the fiqhi madhhab known as Zahirriyah.

    Yeah I am.

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  • SwordofKhaine
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    Originally posted by Linkdeutscher View Post
    When was I? Or do you mean Athari?
    Aren't they similar in how they interpret Quran?

    Okay so are you athari then?

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  • Linkdeutscher
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    Originally posted by SwordofKhaine View Post
    Linkdeutscher are you still Zahiri?
    When was I? Or do you mean Athari?

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  • SwordofKhaine
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    Linkdeutscher are you still Zahiri?

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  • SwordofKhaine
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    Interesting thread.

    But 16 euros even now.

    I don't think religious information should be monetized. One of the reasons Salafi dawah has been successful is because of tremendous funding of the Saudi government.

    If the Ashari scholars want to win, the information should be freely available.

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  • Linkdeutscher
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    Re: New Book Release: Ahl Al-Sunna : The Ash'aris

    Originally posted by Metome View Post
    So does Allah see with Eye?
    He is all Seeing - without-light/eye/nerves/ brain-limbs/organs.
    So does Allah hear with Ear?
    He is all Hearing without -sound waves/ear/drum/brain-limbs/organs.
    So does Allah speak with a Tongue?
    His speech is necessary and eternal attribute of perfection without -tongue/vocal cord/lung/brain-limbs/organs.

    The hadith master Imam al-Bayhaqi
    records that the scribe of Bukhari [Muhammad ibn Yusuf] al-Farabri related that Imam al-Bukhari said, "The meaning of laughter in it is mercy" (Kitab al-asma’ wa al-sifat, 298).

    Can you describe Allah with forgetfulness?

    "Today We forget you as you have forgotten this day of yours" (Qur'an 45:34)
    So what's your problem with Allah laughing if you can accept that he sees and hears?

    Because you are a hypocrite who bases his deen on the heretic Aristotle's ideas.

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  • aMuslimForLife
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    Re: New Book Release: Ahl Al-Sunna : The Ash'aris

    Originally posted by faqir View Post
    did you get a copy aMuslimForLife?
    Yes, I did. It is an excellent book.

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  • Metome
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    Re: New Book Release: Ahl Al-Sunna : The Ash'aris

    Originally posted by Linkdeutscher View Post
    And you said, we can't describe Allah with laughter because laughter is a human quality.

    So does Allah not see? Seeing is a human quality.
    So does Allah not hear? Hearing is a human quality.
    So does Allah not speak? Speaking is a human quality.

    So does Allah see with Eye?
    He is all Seeing - without-light/eye/nerves/ brain-limbs/organs.
    So does Allah hear with Ear?
    He is all Hearing without -sound waves/ear/drum/brain-limbs/organs.
    So does Allah speak with a Tongue?
    His speech is necessary and eternal attribute of perfection without -tongue/vocal cord/lung/brain-limbs/organs.

    The hadith master Imam al-Bayhaqi
    records that the scribe of Bukhari [Muhammad ibn Yusuf] al-Farabri related that Imam al-Bukhari said, "The meaning of laughter in it is mercy"Can you describe Allah with forgetfulness?

    "Today We forget you as you have forgotten this day of yours" (Qur'an 45:34)

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  • faqir
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    Re: New Book Release: Ahl Al-Sunna : The Ash'aris

    did you get a copy aMuslimForLife?

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  • aMuslimForLife
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    Re: New Book Release: Ahl Al-Sunna : The Ash'aris

    Excellent book. Get it.

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  • faqir
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    Re: New Book Release: Ahl Al-Sunna : The Ash'aris

    Originally posted by GoogleSlayer View Post
    It says 15.95 pounds?????
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ahl-al-Sunna...s=ahl+al-sunna

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  • halfmydeen89
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    Re: New Book Release: Ahl Al-Sunna : The Ash'aris

    Originally posted by abufulaans View Post
    We do not add/take away words, it says laugh so we say laugh
    The above hadith and many others are clear, even the companions asked the prophet صلى الله عليه و سلم for confirmation, of course at the same time we do not liken Allah to his creation
    Yes I agree.

    Exactly as the early salafs we take it as it is said but do not apply any meaning to it. If Allah says he laughs then Allah laughs BUT it is in His own befitting way subhanahu watala. It obviously isn't as we know it which is why it is better to refrain from mentioning as our minds are incapable of imagining what this means.

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  • Poster
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    Re: New Book Release: Ahl Al-Sunna : The Ash'aris

    Originally posted by vildan View Post
    Laughs as in metaphorically.

    And yes you can't associate a humans laugh to that of Allahs. Allah swt descends and does so and so in a way that is befitting to Him. We can't imagine these things because we are not capable of doing so. When random people like yourself go around and say Allah laughs, what exactly do you imagine? Laughing is what you call 'ahahaha' - and for someone to ascribe this to Allah swt is plain offensive.

    Allah swt is not human. He swt does not have human qualities. Laughter is a quality found in human beings, not the ONE who created it.

    And no i don't reject hadith (nauthobillah), i just don't take everything literally.

    Who associated a human laugh to Allah?

    The Hadith says Allah laughs so we affirm that. How he laughs we don't know.

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