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  • #16
    Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

    Originally posted by Umar123 View Post
    Stating Allah’s command very explicitly and in emphatic abnegation of gender equality, the Qur’an says:

    “Men are the rulers over women by virtue of the superiority which Allah has bestowed to some over others, and on account of the wealth they (men) spend (to maintain women).
    Thus, the pious women are those who are obedient (to their husbands) and in the absence (of their husbands) they protect that which Allah has protected (i.e. they guard their honour, chastity and their husband’s wealth). And, those whose gross disobedience your fear, admonish them; separate yourselves from them in bed, and beat them. Then if they obey you, then do not be unjust to them in any way. Verily, Allah is Most High, The Greatest.” (Aayat 34, An-Nisaa’)

    Anyone attempting to deny this Qur’aanic aayat or to interpret it to appease the western kuffaar, do so at the peril of his/her Imaan. The following episode was the circumstances for the revelation of this aayat:

    Once the Sahaabi, Hadhrat Sa’d Bin Rabee’ (radhiyallahu anhu) slapped his wife, Hadhrat Habeebah (radhiyallahu anha). She complained to her father, Hadhrat Zaid Bin Zuhair (radhiyallahu anhu). The father took his daughter to Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) and explained what had transpired. Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) ruled that Habeebah was entitled to slap her husband with the same force with which he had slapped her.

    Both father and daughter left with the intention of extracting vengeance in the manner permitted by Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam). However, before they could fulfil their desire the above mentioned Aayat was revealed, permitting the husband to beat his wife, and for which there was no reciprocal retribution. Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) immediately recalled both father and daughter. He recited the aayat and rescinded his earlier ruling.

    Thus, as a last resort, the Shariah permits light-beating – not assaulting – of the wife. The Hadith makes it clear that this last resort permission is not a norm and may not be treated lightly. The command to beat stated in this aayat is not for Wujoob, i.e. it is not compulsory. Nevertheless, it is permissible beyond the slightest vestige of doubt. Indicating that the command is not for compulsion, Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: “The noble (men) among you do never beat (their wives).” Ibn Sa’d and Baihqi narrating from the Daughter of Hadhrat Abu Bakr Siddique (radhiyallahu anhu) said that initially men were totally prohibited from beating their wives. Due to this prohibition, the women became ‘lionesses’, hence the permission to beat then was decreed by Allah Ta’ala.
    What are you trying to say, brother? Explaining the ayah, Ibn Abbas said The Siwaak and like it.

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    • #17
      Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

      Originally posted by الغزالي View Post
      What are you trying to say, brother? Explaining the ayah, Ibn Abbas said The Siwaak and like it.
      Originally posted by Umar123 View Post
      Stating Allah’s command very explicitly and in emphatic abnegation of gender equality, the Qur’an says:

      “Men are the rulers over women by virtue of the superiority which Allah has bestowed to some over others, and on account of the wealth they (men) spend (to maintain women).
      Thus, the pious women are those who are obedient (to their husbands) and in the absence (of their husbands) they protect that which Allah has protected (i.e. they guard their honour, chastity and their husband’s wealth). And, those whose gross disobedience your fear, admonish them; separate yourselves from them in bed, and beat them. Then if they obey you, then do not be unjust to them in any way. Verily, Allah is Most High, The Greatest.” (Aayat 34, An-Nisaa’)

      Anyone attempting to deny this Qur’aanic aayat or to interpret it to appease the western kuffaar, do so at the peril of his/her Imaan. The following episode was the circumstances for the revelation of this aayat:

      Once the Sahaabi, Hadhrat Sa’d Bin Rabee’ (radhiyallahu anhu) slapped his wife, Hadhrat Habeebah (radhiyallahu anha). She complained to her father, Hadhrat Zaid Bin Zuhair (radhiyallahu anhu). The father took his daughter to Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) and explained what had transpired. Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) ruled that Habeebah was entitled to slap her husband with the same force with which he had slapped her.

      Both father and daughter left with the intention of extracting vengeance in the manner permitted by Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam). However, before they could fulfil their desire the above mentioned Aayat was revealed, permitting the husband to beat his wife, and for which there was no reciprocal retribution. Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) immediately recalled both father and daughter. He recited the aayat and rescinded his earlier ruling.

      Thus, as a last resort, the Shariah permits light-beating – not assaulting – of the wife. The Hadith makes it clear that this last resort permission is not a norm and may not be treated lightly. The command to beat stated in this aayat is not for Wujoob, i.e. it is not compulsory. Nevertheless, it is permissible beyond the slightest vestige of doubt. Indicating that the command is not for compulsion, Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: “The noble (men) among you do never beat (their wives).” Ibn Sa’d and Baihqi narrating from the Daughter of Hadhrat Abu Bakr Siddique (radhiyallahu anhu) said that initially men were totally prohibited from beating their wives. Due to this prohibition, the women became ‘lionesses’, hence the permission to beat then was decreed by Allah Ta’ala.



      guys stop it, its a bait thread, Op has been banned previously, its his another account, let this thread be as it is or report it, just dont post anything on it, nothing frustrates a troll more than lack of attention

      And AnnonymousAS is his accomplice, she also objects to Islamic teachings, thus please do not fall for their bait
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      • #18
        Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

        Originally posted by GoogleSlayer View Post

        guys stop it, its a bait thread, Op has been banned previously, its his another account, let this thread be as it is or report it, just dont post anything on it, nothing frustrates a troll more than lack of attention
        yea very good ! "bait thread" !! way to go ..
        and who is this "Op" i have no idea..

        you people turn away when something is mentioned with the Quran and u rejoice when baseless hadith is mentioned.. i just got reminded of these beautiful verses from the Quran :

        وَمِنَ النّاسِ مَن يَشتَرى لَهوَ الحَديثِ لِيُضِلَّ عَن سَبيلِ اللَّهِ بِغَيرِ عِلمٍ وَيَتَّخِذَها هُزُوًا أُولٰئِكَ لَهُم عَذابٌ مُهينٌ
        وَإِذا تُتلىٰ عَلَيهِ ءايٰتُنا وَلّىٰ مُستَكبِرًا كَأَن لَم يَسمَعها كَأَنَّ فى أُذُنَيهِ وَقرًا فَبَشِّرهُ بِعَذابٍ أَليمٍ


        Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless Hadith, and thus divert others from the path of God without knowledge, and take it in vain. These have incurred a shameful retribution
        And when our revelations are recited to the one of them, he turns away in arrogance as if he never heard them, as if his ears are deaf. Promise him a painful retribution.
        (31:6-7)

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        • #19
          Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

          Originally posted by Umar123 View Post
          Muslims should understand well, that despite the Shariah’s emphasis on extreme kindness to the wife, and despite the emphasis on abstention from inflicting physical punishment on the wife, the very bottom line which is integral to the validity of Imaan is to unconditionally accept and believe that the Qur’aan does permit the husband to beat his wife.

          Nothing can detract from this Qur’aanic truth. It is haraam for Muslims to apologize for this Qur’aanic truth. Allah Ta’ala has allowed the wife to be lightly beaten if circumstances demand this measure. Anyone who apologizes for being a Muslim – anyone who seeks to interpret away this explicit Qur’aanic command or to deny it becomes a MURTAD. He/she loses his/her Imaan by viewing the Deen with a vision clouded by a western-colonized brain.

          Despite the lofty pedestal which Islam assigns woman, Muslims may not deny the transcendental, Qur’aanic truth that men are the rulers of women. Allah Ta’ala has granted men superiority over women. Muslim women should understand and accept without the slightest objection and reluctance this Qur’aanic truth. Any prevarication in belief on this issue or any other Shar’i is kufr.
          How is it a pedestal if Allah really favours one half of his creation over the other? This would mean that Muslim women are given an inferior status compared to women in some other societies.

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          • #20
            Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

            Originally posted by AnonymousAS View Post
            How is it a pedestal if Allah really favours one half of his creation over the other? This would mean that Muslim women are given an inferior status compared to women in some other societies.
            There is no superiority given to anyone over the other.

            يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُم مِّن ذَكَرٍ وَأُنثَىٰ وَجَعَلْنَاكُمْ شُعُوبًا وَقَبَائِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوا ۚ إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِندَ اللَّـهِ أَتْقَاكُمْ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّـهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٌ ﴿١٣﴾

            O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted. (13)

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            • #21
              Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

              Originally posted by chasteguy View Post
              yea very good ! "bait thread" !! way to go ..
              and who is this "Op" i have no idea..

              you people turn away when something is mentioned with the Quran and u rejoice when baseless hadith is mentioned.. i just got reminded of these beautiful verses from the Quran :

              وَمِنَ النّاسِ مَن يَشتَرى لَهوَ الحَديثِ لِيُضِلَّ عَن سَبيلِ اللَّهِ بِغَيرِ عِلمٍ وَيَتَّخِذَها هُزُوًا أُولٰئِكَ لَهُم عَذابٌ مُهينٌ
              وَإِذا تُتلىٰ عَلَيهِ ءايٰتُنا وَلّىٰ مُستَكبِرًا كَأَن لَم يَسمَعها كَأَنَّ فى أُذُنَيهِ وَقرًا فَبَشِّرهُ بِعَذابٍ أَليمٍ


              Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless Hadith, and thus divert others from the path of God without knowledge, and take it in vain. These have incurred a shameful retribution
              And when our revelations are recited to the one of them, he turns away in arrogance as if he never heard them, as if his ears are deaf. Promise him a painful retribution.
              (31:6-7)
              Ignore GoogleSlayer, he gets obsessed with certain users and comes up with a load of nutty "you're all the same person!" posts. If he does not like what I and others post he can simply put us on "ignore" but the obsession won't allow it, I guess.

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              • #22
                Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

                Originally posted by الغزالي View Post
                There is no superiority given to anyone over the other.

                يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُم مِّن ذَكَرٍ وَأُنثَىٰ وَجَعَلْنَاكُمْ شُعُوبًا وَقَبَائِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوا ۚ إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِندَ اللَّـهِ أَتْقَاكُمْ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّـهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٌ ﴿١٣﴾

                O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted. (13)
                You make a good point, I was just addressing how some men insist that they are better then say "accept your inferior status, O women!"
                Last edited by AnonymousAS; 06-12-15, 07:07 PM.

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                • #23
                  Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

                  Originally posted by الغزالي View Post
                  The 'beating' is by a miswak (small toothbrush) or like it. It is only symbolic and not really beating. And this is done after the first two measures (previously mentioned) fails.
                  ive heard the same

                  its not a beating at all, lightly tapping with a miswaak, so light that it would not leave a mark

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                  • #24
                    Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

                    Chasteguy

                    I thought you were here to help people with health problems?

                    not issue your own fatwa? :scratch:
                    'Whatever it be wherein ye differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn.' The Holy Qu'ran Al Shura (Consultation)

                    So, which of the favours of your lord will you deny? ~ Surah Ar Rahman

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                    • #25
                      Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

                      I don't see a problem with this. If the wife is flirty, and goes against Islamic principles, a light beating should be allowed.
                      Every religion allows such things, they just like to hide and obscure such verses as the Quran tells us.
                      "What is asked today is uniting the ranks of the Muwahideen, and to re-unite the Muslims. And directing the efforts to confront the challenges/threats of the Majoos, Tawagith and their donkeys the Murji'ah and the secularists."- Shayk Sulayman Al Alwan

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                      • #26
                        Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

                        Another copy/paste job without source. No surprise there.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

                          Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
                          Another copy/paste job without source. No surprise there.
                          http://www.quran-islam.org/articles/...n_(P1179).html
                          it appears to be from that same quranist site he linked


                          everyone keep that in mind

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                          • #28
                            Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

                            Originally posted by pick a name View Post
                            ive heard the same

                            its not a beating at all, lightly tapping with a miswaak, so light that it would not leave a mark
                            Any sources for the miswak thing?
                            Not knowing what one doesn't know will lead to difficulty

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                            • #29
                              Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

                              Originally posted by Vishnu View Post
                              Any sources for the miswak thing?
                              here
                              http://islamqa.info/en/41199

                              This is like the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

                              “As to those women on whose part you see ill‑conduct, admonish them (first), (next) refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allaah is Ever Most High, Most Great”

                              [al-Nisa’ 4:34]

                              If a woman rebels against her husband and disobeys his commands, then he should follow this method of admonishing her, forsaking her in bed and hitting her. Hitting is subject to the condition that it should not be harsh or cause injury. Al-Hasan al-Basri said: this means that it should not cause pain.

                              ‘Ata’ said: I said to Ibn ‘Abbaas, what is the kind of hitting that is not harsh? He said, Hitting with a siwaak and the like. [A siwaak is a small stick or twig used for cleaning the teeth - Translator]

                              The purpose behind this is not to hurt or humiliate the woman, rather it is intended to make her realize that she has transgressed against her husband’s rights, and that her husband has the right to set her straight and discipline her.

                              And Allaah knows best.
                              here it is explained what it is meant by "lightly beating"
                              siwaak= miswaak btw

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                              • #30
                                Re: Does the Quran permit men to beat their wives?

                                Originally posted by Umar123 View Post

                                Anyone attempting to deny this Qur’aanic aayat or to interpret it to appease the western kuffaar, do so at the peril of his/her Imaan. The following episode was the circumstances for the revelation of this aayat:

                                Once the Sahaabi, Hadhrat Sa’d Bin Rabee’ (radhiyallahu anhu) slapped his wife, Hadhrat Habeebah (radhiyallahu anha). She complained to her father, Hadhrat Zaid Bin Zuhair (radhiyallahu anhu). The father took his daughter to Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) and explained what had transpired. Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) ruled that Habeebah was entitled to slap her husband with the same force with which he had slapped her.

                                Both father and daughter left with the intention of extracting vengeance in the manner permitted by Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam). However, before they could fulfil their desire the above mentioned Aayat was revealed, permitting the husband to beat his wife, and for which there was no reciprocal retribution. Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) immediately recalled both father and daughter. He recited the aayat and rescinded his earlier ruling.
                                .
                                Who narrated this report?

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