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  • from the west:
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    Re: E = mc^2 is Shirk

    Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
    Orbit of what?
    The solar system orbits the center of our galaxy. 1 full orbit is called the galactic year.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_year

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  • Nafs al Tawabah
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    Seriously people something can't be shirk if its not absolute! Science is not absolute its a process -------- observation, hypothesis, prediction, test ------- start again and again to perfect and get a working model.

    Even the best theories out there are not complete, hence its all an ongoing process which is trying to workout the mechanics of the Universe and creation. Anybody that claims that science is absolute doesn't understand it and pure science (pure of human motives and emotions) has no conflict with religion.

    Its a system to understand creation and fathom the intricacies of all things big and small - if looked at the right way with sound understanding science can lead to the conclusion that there is an All Intelligent Designer/Creator of the Universe.

    My two cents

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  • kashifj
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    einstein,s some theories have proven wrong recently.so his every theory must not be believed like something divine

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  • in_exile
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    Originally posted by Muslimman3 View Post
    True, this is why I wanted to know,if you add the condition that if Allah wishes he can make any scientific law void, can this remove the shirky element of the law.
    E = mc2 shows that matter can make energy and energy can make matter. 1st law of Thermodynamics says that nothing (matter or energy) can be created nor destroyed, it can only transform... To be honest, dunno if they have any innate link between each other lol. I just quoted what the Sheikh wrote in the book.
    No you don't need to add for men. Energy can neither be created or destroyed is a fact for creation as perceived in our current state. But it's a fact for matter in the universe. It has no relation to Allah (swt) power. Allah (swt) can create and destroy as he wishes. Don't go mental abt it
    Last edited by in_exile; 28-04-14, 11:47 PM.

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  • Nashmia
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    well we now know that the universe is finite (based on Higgs theory) so energy was created through the singularity

    bit very good point. never thought of it like that

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  • Saleem Gub
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    i think eisntien stole that theory from someone else anyway. it was edison i think

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  • SILURES
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    Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
    The context here implies shirk by associating a partner because it alludes to something other than Allah that is 'eternal and uncreated'.
    ah i see now. cheers.

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  • Abu 'Abdullaah
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    Re: E = mc^2 is Shirk

    Originally posted by SILURES View Post
    isnt it more like blasphemy CAN be shirk? because you can say something blasphemous without attributing partners to god.
    The context here implies shirk by associating a partner because it alludes to something other than Allah that is 'eternal and uncreated'.

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  • SILURES
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    Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
    Blasphemy is shirk.
    isnt it more like blasphemy CAN be shirk? because you can say something blasphemous without attributing partners to god.

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  • Abu 'Abdullaah
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    Re: E = mc^2 is Shirk

    Originally posted by SILURES View Post
    off topic and just a thought but isnt shirk attributing partners with god?

    how would accepting this theory be shirk?

    wouldnt it be more like blasphemy instead?
    Blasphemy is shirk.

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  • SILURES
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    Re: E = mc^2 is Shirk

    Originally posted by Mustafa Mahmud View Post
    Worshiping Satan perhaps?
    sorry youve lost me.

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  • Mustafa Mahmud
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    Re: E = mc^2 is Shirk

    Originally posted by SILURES View Post
    off topic and just a thought but isnt shirk attributing partners with god?

    how would accepting this theory be shirk?

    wouldnt it be more like blasphemy instead?
    Worshiping Satan perhaps?

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  • SILURES
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    off topic and just a thought but isnt shirk attributing partners with god?

    how would accepting this theory be shirk?

    wouldnt it be more like blasphemy instead?

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  • Abu 'Abdullaah
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    Re: E = mc^2 is Shirk

    Originally posted by iwasjimmyjimmy View Post
    Read the article that the other member kindly provided. You can deny it later if you think it conflicts with your religion.
    I'm a layman and need it explained.

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  • iwasjimmyjimmy
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    Re: E = mc^2 is Shirk

    Originally posted by Abu 'Abdullaah View Post
    Orbit of what?
    Read the article that the other member kindly provided. You can deny it later if you think it conflicts with your religion.

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