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    #16
    Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

    This thread is why young (secondary school age) Muslims need sex ed (the Islamic ethos way, not the western schools way). Alhamdullilah I like to think that for the most part, by the time Muslims are teenagers, they'd have some grasp of basic facts such as sexual assault being wrong, there's never any justification for forcing yourself sexually on another person and so on... but sadly I also think there are a number of Muslims who slip through the cracks with no awareness of things that should be obvious by the time they grow up. I think part of the problem is, there usually isn't a person or place that young Muslims can go to talk and to learn about the correct view on stuff like this.

    Btw not just on sexual assualt, but young people also need to learn things about growing up, such as changes to the body, girls need to learn about periods and pregnancy, boys and girls need to learn about boundaries between genders and so on.
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      #17
      Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

      The reasons behind rape can be complex, from power, to mental health and what OP suggests etc

      However to suggest Islamic prohibition to sex outside marriage is in anyway responsible is ridiculous. Islam says if a person cannot control their urge and have attained puberty get married

      There are practices happening in so called muslim countries and with muslims that are a result of no sex outside marriage but in the main they are happening because of lack of islam not because of it

      What i mean here, for example, is you cant teach no sex outside marriage to a 21 year old and then have pictures of semi naked people at every step (male or female)

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        #18
        Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

        Originally posted by Bismil View Post
        In most cases rape happens not because of lust , but with intention to extract revenge or show power.

        It is a sick thing to do , and culprit should be given an exemplary punishment.
        Correct. Rape is about power, revenge,hate,mental illness,to show dominance...etc

        Rape is not about sexual desire.

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          #19
          Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

          I think the OP is talking about in Muslim countries..assuming western Muslims can find willing partners for zina a lot more easily than in Muslim countries? So in a highly segregated society sexual outlets are limited to homosexuality, rape or marriage? You do hear Asian girls going on about how blatant the ogling is "back home" and greater risk of getting groped in public. Also would you rather, if she had to, that your daughter spent the night in police custody in London or Karachi or Dhaka?
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            #20
            Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

            Originally posted by Tide2006 View Post
            Correct. Rape is about power, revenge,hate,mental illness,to show dominance...etc

            Rape is not about sexual desire.
            From a research/study/psychology etc point of view most rape is mainly about sexual gratification than power

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              #21
              Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

              Originally posted by nonameakhi View Post
              From a research/study/psychology etc point of view most rape is mainly about sexual gratification than power
              Stanford University, one of the top universities in the world, says otherwise.

              http://www.stanford.edu/group/maan/cgi-bin/?page_id=283

              Myths: “He just really wanted to have sex”

              “He misread her signals”

              “He got carried away”

              Sexual assault is NOT a crime of passion, driven by a strong desire for sex; it is a violent crime driven by a desire for dominance. Most perpetrators of sexual assault have access to consensual sex with someone other than the victim.

              Furthermore, it is not a result of ‘mixed signals’. Each and every sexual act requires active and willing consent for it not to be sexual assault, and two people have been kissing or flirting all night does not constitute consent. Most people (including most men) do not have trouble interpreting their partner’s sexual signals.

              Sexual assault happens because a perpetrator believes that they are entitled to have sex or sexual contact with another person without that person’s consent.

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                #22
                Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

                Originally posted by aynina View Post
                Well i wouldnt blame not being allowed premarital sex being the cause for premarital sex, id say premarital sex happens because marriage is such a hard thing nowadays, if 2 ppl who love eachother just got married regardless of the situation and later moved in together and had the walima we would solve zina problems, but rape is just a crime comited by ppl with little emaan and no respect so im sorry i didnt realise it was about rape i read too quickly
                Okay I wanted to clarify. Because yeah the expenses can cause premarital sex, but horrible people rape others, regardless of the "rules," because they don't care
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                  #23
                  Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

                  Originally posted by Tide2006 View Post
                  Stanford University, one of the top universities in the world, says otherwise.
                  Yeah there is a few who have jumped on that bandwagon, however most studies that focus on that are to do with date rape, for example, and exclude other rapes.
                  Also its about what gets reported. rape figures from police dont give an accurate picture

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                    #24
                    Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

                    Why blame the book when you can blame the rapist?

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                      #25
                      Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

                      Originally posted by nudgetheputri View Post
                      Why blame the book when you can blame the rapist?
                      true

                      The sahabah ra used to say not a bird flapped its wings that the Prophet saw didnt say something about it ie islam explains everything

                      Islamically the power issue is addressed as a man has been given power over the woman and has said marry if desire takes over from puberty.

                      Basically rape shouldnt be in the equation

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                        #26
                        Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

                        Originally posted by nonameakhi View Post
                        true

                        The sahabah ra used to say not a bird flapped its wings that the Prophet saw didnt say something about it ie islam explains everything

                        Islamically the power issue is addressed as a man has been given power over the woman and has said marry if desire takes over from puberty.

                        Basically rape shouldnt be in the equation
                        And if you can't marry, fast and keep yourself busy.

                        Honestly, some men only pounce on religion as an excuse to perform their filthy acts - (watching porn, perving on girls, feeling entitled to exercise power over women, rape, assault).

                        And that's weak.

                        Every grown adult, including teens (because Islamically they are grown ups) should be able to know their own weaknesses and work on them. Islam just gives you principles to live by.
                        Last edited by nudgetheputri; 23-03-17, 04:22 AM.

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                          #27
                          Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

                          Originally posted by nudgetheputri View Post
                          And if you can't marry, fast and keep yourself busy.

                          Honestly, some men only pounce on religion as an excuse to perform their filthy acts - (watching porn, perving on girls, feeling entitled to exercise power over women, rape, assault).

                          And that's weak.

                          Every grown adult, including teens (because Islamically they are grown ups) should be able to know their own weaknesses and work on them. Islam just gives you principles to live by.
                          The advice to marry is to prevent what you say not an excuse to do it

                          Islam provides the solutions

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                            #28
                            Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

                            Originally posted by nonameakhi View Post
                            The advice to marry is to prevent what you say not an excuse to do it

                            Islam provides the solutions
                            Either way using that as an excuse still happens.

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                              #29
                              Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

                              Originally posted by nudgetheputri View Post
                              Either way using that as an excuse still happens.
                              its not an excuse though its haram to do those things

                              The fact that Islam says marry to avoid those things means there is no excuse

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                                #30
                                Re: Does the prohibition of sex outside marriage in Islam lead to rape cases?

                                Originally posted by nonameakhi View Post
                                its not an excuse though its haram to do those things

                                The fact that Islam says marry to avoid those things means there is no excuse
                                Thats what I meant.

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