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    who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

    http://www.hikmah.co.uk/

    I was watching one of his lectures where someone asked him about difference between Deobandi & Barelvi, and he calls himself Deobandi and said there is no difference between both groups and only 3 major differences and then he said he cleared those 3 differences with a Barelvi Sheikh (by the name of Jamshed)...

    The confusing part is, if there is no difference at all and those 3 differences were cleared like whether Prophet Muhammad :saw: was a NOOR or not had knowledge of all the unseen or not etc. then why the fuss? I was not convinced by his approach, yes there are extremists on each side but to say there is practically no difference at all between both groups does not make much sense.....

    Does anyone know about this Sheikh? How is he? I am not asking for Gheebah (backbiting) just some general info about him......
    "Be A Lamp, A Lifeboat, A Ladder, Help Someone's Soul Heal. Walk Out Of Your House Like A Shepherd" - Rumi

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    Re: who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

    Guess he's just tryin to keep the peace, though if that is a commendable thing or not can be debated.
    There is rest only in the aakhira.
    Man will rest in the aakhira according to how hard he strives in dunya.

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    and knowledge is regarded as deeds,
    then you are in the worst of times, with the worst of people.

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    That's right, a nude dog.
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      #3
      Re: who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

      Originally posted by -Jibril- View Post
      Guess he's just tryin to keep the peace, though if that is a commendable thing or not can be debated.
      true if barelvis have seriously devaint beliefs then trying to keep the peace by saying they are alright is a big error
      "Be A Lamp, A Lifeboat, A Ladder, Help Someone's Soul Heal. Walk Out Of Your House Like A Shepherd" - Rumi

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        #4
        Re: who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

        If I am not wrong, deobandis believe that syeddina rasulullah salellahualaihiwasalam is the nur of Allah.
        صلى الله على حبيبه محمد و على آله و أصحابه و سلم
        Al-Muslimeen

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          #5
          Re: who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

          Originally posted by ahmed_abdullah View Post
          If I am not wrong, deobandis believe that syeddina rasulullah salellahualaihiwasalam is the nur of Allah.
          That is incorrect as far as I know. Deobandis believe that Nabi(SAW) is human and "alive" in his grave. Alive in this case would need definition from one with more knowledge than I.
          By Him in whose Hand is the Soul of Muhammad, there is not one from the nations of the Jews and the Christians who hears about me and then dies while he has not believed in what I have been sent with except that he will be one of the companions of the Fire”. (Reported by Muslim in kitaabul Imaan)
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            Re: who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

            Originally posted by Sandman View Post
            That is incorrect as far as I know. Deobandis believe that Nabi(SAW) is human and "alive" in his grave. Alive in this case would need definition from one with more knowledge than I.
            Maybe we should read Nashar ut-Tib by Ashraf Ali Thanvi and Musannaf Abdur Razaq.
            صلى الله على حبيبه محمد و على آله و أصحابه و سلم
            Al-Muslimeen

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              #7
              Re: who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

              Something similar was discussed here: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...muhammad-s.a.w

              Probably best to ask a scholar you trust.
              By Him in whose Hand is the Soul of Muhammad, there is not one from the nations of the Jews and the Christians who hears about me and then dies while he has not believed in what I have been sent with except that he will be one of the companions of the Fire”. (Reported by Muslim in kitaabul Imaan)
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                #8
                Re: who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

                Originally posted by ahmed_abdullah View Post
                If I am not wrong, deobandis believe that syeddina rasulullah salellahualaihiwasalam is the nur of Allah.
                Nope, thats brelvis that believe that.

                Originally posted by Sandman View Post
                That is incorrect as far as I know. Deobandis believe that Nabi(SAW) is human and "alive" in his grave. Alive in this case would need definition from one with more knowledge than I.
                The bodies of the shuhadaa and prophets do not rot.

                The shuhadaa are alive....

                Maybe someone else can clarify the Messenger saaw being alive.
                There is rest only in the aakhira.
                Man will rest in the aakhira according to how hard he strives in dunya.

                - Khaalid Ibn Al Waleed (ra) -

                If you find yourself in a time where speech is regarded as knowledge,
                and knowledge is regarded as deeds,
                then you are in the worst of times, with the worst of people.

                - Abu Hazim Al Ashja'i (ra) -

                I saw a dog without any clothes on .
                That's right, a nude dog.
                The Deepweb is disgusting.
                - Unknown -


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                The Middle Road - At-Tanzil - Hifz Thread - Muslim Healthy Living
                Inheritors of Qur'aan

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                  #9
                  Re: who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

                  I apologise for the "girliness of this site": http://www.beautifulislam.net/prophe...e_in_grave.htm
                  By Him in whose Hand is the Soul of Muhammad, there is not one from the nations of the Jews and the Christians who hears about me and then dies while he has not believed in what I have been sent with except that he will be one of the companions of the Fire”. (Reported by Muslim in kitaabul Imaan)
                  www.treasureofthescholars.wordpress.com

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                    #10
                    Re: who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

                    Originally posted by ahmed_abdullah View Post
                    Maybe we should read Nashar ut-Tib by Ashraf Ali Thanvi and Musannaf Abdur Razaq.
                    These are the books that deobandis follow and Ashraf ali thanvi is well regarded as deobandi.
                    صلى الله على حبيبه محمد و على آله و أصحابه و سلم
                    Al-Muslimeen

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                      #11
                      Re: who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

                      Please guys the OP is more about the Shaikh & less about the deobandi barelvi thing
                      "Be A Lamp, A Lifeboat, A Ladder, Help Someone's Soul Heal. Walk Out Of Your House Like A Shepherd" - Rumi

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                        #12
                        Re: who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

                        A quick google gives us: http://www.islamcollege.co.uk/Shaykh_Hasan_Ali.html

                        Shaykh Hasan Ali
                        London

                        Sheikh Hasan was born and brought up in the West Midlands of England and his early years were spent in secular education in state schools. At the age of fourteen he embarked upon studying Islamic sciences at traditional boarding schools in the UK. First he memorised the Qur'an during GCSE studies and then began to learn the Arabic language together with many other sciences (known as theDars Nizami)

                        In 1997, after nine years of studying in boarding schools and graduating with an <em>Aalimiyyah </em>(MA Islamic Studies) he became the Imam of London Islamic Cultural Society in North London (www.lics.info). Here, he served the community for several years by holding several classes in addition to the duties of an Imam. These classes consisted of Tafseer, Hadith, Arabic, Tajweed etc and were taught to all age groups.

                        During his post as Imam at LICS, Sheikh Hasan Ali also set up Safar Academy (www.safar.org.uk), a weekend Islamic School. To this date he is still actively involved in teaching and running the school. The school currently has 17 members of staff and 250 students (between the age of 6-16) who are taught Tajweed, Fiqh, Islamic General Knowledge, Aqeedah and Quranic Arabic. The Sheikh is currently authoring a syllabus for such Islamic schools (makatib).

                        Between 2000 and 2003 he was the Imam, Head of Islamic Studies and Head of Arabic Studies and a member of the school's Senior Management Team at Yusuf Islam's Brondesbury College for Boys in Kilburn, North London. The Sheikh, here, devised an entire Islamic Syllabus for this secondary school and also contributed largely to the gapping of the physical and spiritual life of both staff and students.

                        In March 2003, together with other educationalists, he set up the Ebrahim Community College in East London where he is serving as the Director of Human Resources and also teaches A Level Religious Studies, Philosophy of Religion, Usul al-Fiqh, Translation of the Quran in English and Seerah.

                        In 2006 he completed a MA in Education (Psychology) at the Institute of Education, University of London. Furthermore, he is the Senior Religious Advisor for Media4insight and we would like to take the opportunity here to thank the Sheikh for his invaluable time and his intuitive vision.

                        His upbringing in the UK combined with his knowledge of Islamic and Western Sciences makes him a unique and inspiring lecturer. Consequently, in his talks to Muslims and interfaith work with non-Muslims he focuses on real issues concerning Muslims and non-Muslims alike and desires a positive change in the lives of people. He wants Muslims to advance in all aspects of their lives and be models as individuals in society, in their homes and at their workplace representing a true and pure image of Islam.

                        He has lectured on a wide range of inspiring and relevant topics throughout mosques, universities, colleges and in the media both in the UK and abroad including Belgium, Holland, Trinidad & Tobago, United Arab Emirates among other countries.


                        The "human rights" connection and such like might make him choose less milatant words when talking about other groups, Allahu Alam.
                        By Him in whose Hand is the Soul of Muhammad, there is not one from the nations of the Jews and the Christians who hears about me and then dies while he has not believed in what I have been sent with except that he will be one of the companions of the Fire”. (Reported by Muslim in kitaabul Imaan)
                        www.treasureofthescholars.wordpress.com

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                          #13
                          Re: who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

                          A bit more info:


                          Shaykh Hasan Ali
                          Sheikh Hasan was born and brought up in the West Midlands. His Islamic education began with the memorisation of the Qur’an followed by learning the Arabic language together with many other sciences. In 1997, after nine years of studying the Islamic Sciences, he completed his Aalimiyyah (MA Islamic Studies eqv), graduating from the famous Madrasah Qasim Al-Uloom, in Sylhet Bangladesh (Dargah Madrasah) where he came first in the entire regional board among thousands of candidates. Sheikh Hasan also has an MA in Educational Psychology from the Institute of Education, University of London.

                          Following his graduation, he served as the Imam of the London Islamic Cultural Society in North London for several years, where he set up the excellent Safar Academy, a weekend Islamic School which he still runs to this day. Between 2000 and 2003 he was the Imam, Head of Islamic Studies and Head of Arabic Studies at Yusuf Islam’s Brondesbury College for Boys in Kilburn, North London. In 2003, he was among the founding team of scholars, who set up Ebrahim College in East London where he is now a member of the board of Directors, and also teaches Philosophy of Religion, Usul al-Fiqh, Tafsir of the Quran and Islamic History. He is also well known in the community for being an inspirational speaker on a wide range of topics at masjids, universities, colleges and in the media both in the UK and abroad.
                          By Him in whose Hand is the Soul of Muhammad, there is not one from the nations of the Jews and the Christians who hears about me and then dies while he has not believed in what I have been sent with except that he will be one of the companions of the Fire”. (Reported by Muslim in kitaabul Imaan)
                          www.treasureofthescholars.wordpress.com

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                            #14
                            Re: who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

                            Originally posted by Sandman View Post
                            A quick google gives us: http://www.islamcollege.co.uk/Shaykh_Hasan_Ali.html

                            [i]Shaykh Hasan Ali
                            London
                            Jazak Allah Khair

                            I see that you have his website among your favorites........
                            "Be A Lamp, A Lifeboat, A Ladder, Help Someone's Soul Heal. Walk Out Of Your House Like A Shepherd" - Rumi

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                              Re: who knows about Shaykh Hasan Ali of Hikmah website

                              Originally posted by tayyiboon View Post
                              Jazak Allah Khair

                              I see that you have his website among your favorites........
                              Hikmah has several Imams that give talks on there, including the Mufti from my local mosque. To be honest I disagree with some of the things certain Mufti's say. Don't get me wrong I'm not claiming to have more knowledge than them, but when a Scholar for example says something like "It doesn't say anything in the Quran or Hadith but I think the world is xxxxxx years old" I don't feel obligated to agree. Especially when Carbon dating proves their "best guess" wrong. I don't mean to derail the thread just making my position of "taking what is good, and leaving what isn't" clear.

                              The websites I have listed are all of benefit and I would recommend them. That doesn't mean I agree with everything every imam on all of those sites has said. If that makes sense. :P
                              By Him in whose Hand is the Soul of Muhammad, there is not one from the nations of the Jews and the Christians who hears about me and then dies while he has not believed in what I have been sent with except that he will be one of the companions of the Fire”. (Reported by Muslim in kitaabul Imaan)
                              www.treasureofthescholars.wordpress.com

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