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  • Good employee but has a bad problem...

    Salam o alaykum,

    Let's say you own a company and you find out one of your employes has been hacking into the other employe's computers and reading their emails. You find out who it is, confront him, he admits to doing it, and then you fire him for this. As he walks out, he says " If only you knew what Ali does on his computer!". You don't trust him, but you are too disturbed to put off what he said.

    Ali has been a good worker and has worked for you for a number of years. He is also a family friend. You call him into the office, and after gentle questioning, he breaks down, and with deep shame, admits he has an addiction to pornography and has been using his computer in his office to view porn for about an hour a day for the last few months. You ask him if his wife knows about his problem, and he says no and that he was too ashamed to tell anyone.You tell him to leave for the day and come back in the morning.

    Now, what do you do? Do you fire him, or because of his good work history and that he has been a faithful employee and a friend,do you allow him to seek counseling and keep him on the job?
    Fabi-ayyiala -i rabbikuma tukaththibani
    Then which of the favors of your Lord will ye deny?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr8DR8frP_s

    You are not here just to fill space or to be a background character in someone else's movie. Consider this: nothing would be the same if you did not exist. Every place you have ever been and everyone you have ever spoken to would be different without you. We are all connected, and we are all affected by the decisions and even the existence of those around us.

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    Re: Good employee but has a bad problem...

    Is this a real situation?

    I would think about computer monitoring software for employees, tell him he will be monitored and the first time he watches something indecent at the office he is fired. Nothing at all unreasonable about that.
    Blessed is He in Whose Hand is the Dominion, and He is Able to do all things. (67.1)

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    • #3
      Re: Good employee but has a bad problem...

      :wswrwb:

      Is he going to do that again? Did he say anything about repenting?

      I'd also have all the computers monitored.
      Secure few moments, everyday, to reflect upon the innumerable blessings of Allah and thank Him for bestowing them upon you.

      "A person who is blessed with the ability to be grateful, shall never be deprived of barakah and increase in blessings."
      - Rasulullah (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم)‎

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      • #4
        Re: Good employee but has a bad problem...

        Why did the hacker guy get fired and not the porn guy? They both did bad things...

        If I was in that position, I would talk to the friend and tell him that obviously what he is doing in haraam, but I would not fire him because he is a good worker- you have to keep your personal life and work life separate. Oh and I second adding the computer monitoring software :up:
        Last edited by ~Rajiyah~; 09-10-11, 12:06 AM.

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        • #5
          Re: Good employee but has a bad problem...

          Yes, it's a real situation, but not my situation alhamdullah. It's a case study, and I'm taking my university's classes online and I the one thing I miss is class discussion..so i was just getting others perspectives.
          Fabi-ayyiala -i rabbikuma tukaththibani
          Then which of the favors of your Lord will ye deny?
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr8DR8frP_s

          You are not here just to fill space or to be a background character in someone else's movie. Consider this: nothing would be the same if you did not exist. Every place you have ever been and everyone you have ever spoken to would be different without you. We are all connected, and we are all affected by the decisions and even the existence of those around us.

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          • #6
            Re: Good employee but has a bad problem...

            Oh, I see.

            I might give him a chance, if I really feel that he's sincere in not doing it again. This guy was only hurting himself (in a way). The hacker was invading other's business.
            Secure few moments, everyday, to reflect upon the innumerable blessings of Allah and thank Him for bestowing them upon you.

            "A person who is blessed with the ability to be grateful, shall never be deprived of barakah and increase in blessings."
            - Rasulullah (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم)‎

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            • #7
              Re: Good employee but has a bad problem...

              As a boss this is pretty easy.

              Ali's infraction was found because he was accused by another obviously hostile employee. Not because of Ali's performance on the job.

              If Ali's job performance was not affected than he should only be given a verbal warning (or a 'written' verbal warning depending on company policy).

              (Assuming the company has a policy on what can and cannot be viewed on the internet during 'lunch break'. If they don't have that, than the company could be in trouble if they attempt to fire Ali.)

              ~Bub
              From the Many, One

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              • #8
                Re: Good employee but has a bad problem...

                Originally posted by BubbleGum View Post
                As a boss this is pretty easy.

                Ali's infraction was found because he was accused by another obviously hostile employee. Not because of Ali's performance on the job.

                If Ali's job performance was not affected than he should only be given a verbal warning (or a 'written' verbal warning depending on company policy).

                (Assuming the company has a policy on what can and cannot be viewed on the internet during 'lunch break'. If they don't have that, than the company could be in trouble if they attempt to fire Ali.)

                ~Bub
                How to stir up the employees working passion? If you don't use mobile spy to spy on them, you are afraid that they are playing all the time.
                Last edited by Alrale; 25-06-12, 02:42 AM.
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                • #9
                  Re: Good employee but has a bad problem...

                  dont think you should go easy on him. i would expect to be fired for doing something stupid like that. give him a warning and restrict his access to the net.
                  Know that the life of this world is but amusement and diversion and adornment and boasting to one another and competition in increase of wealth and children...

                  -Quran (57:20)

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                  • #10
                    [QUOTE REMOVED - AA]

                    Well.. If you feel that is acceptable, perhaps you should also consider adding hidden cameras in each bathroom stall of your business. :sarcasm:

                    Seriously now, if you hack into an employee's personal phone, you are guilty of significant legal 'privacy violation' ramifications in Western societies. Even if said employee is proved to be viewing 'illegal' porn (ie topless women vs pedophilia). He may get prosecuted for any crimes, but even if your hacking delivers verifiable proof you can still face legal trouble of your own and loose your business.

                    Think of it as if you get in an auto accident that was your fault. If the person you hit is drunk, they will get prosecuted for drink driving. But you will also acquire the same responsibility for reparations for all damage and injury you have caused as if the person you hit was not drunk.

                    And personally, if I was made aware that you have done such things, I would sever any relationship we had, business and personal. As would all my business associates. Muslim and non. And I have a lotta bit experience on issues like this.


                    Last edited by Abu 'Abdullaah; 14-08-20, 03:41 PM. Reason: QUOTE REMOVED
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BubbleGum View Post
                      Re: Good employee but has a bad problem...

                      As a boss this is pretty easy.

                      Ali's infraction was found because he was accused by another obviously hostile employee. Not because of Ali's performance on the job.

                      If Ali's job performance was not affected than he should only be given a verbal warning (or a 'written' verbal warning depending on company policy).

                      (Assuming the company has a policy on what can and cannot be viewed on the internet during 'lunch break'. If they don't have that, than the company could be in trouble if they attempt to fire Ali.)

                      ~Bub
                      [email protected]=Trump???? Absilli Sad, really. Not long now? Absilli biobreak = Muslim Biobrake Sorry Absilli :tumbleweeds:
                      From the Many, One

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                      • #12
                        Disregard, Absilli.
                        From the Many, One

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                        • #13
                          Biobrake, Bub=Trump? To late.
                          From the Many, One

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