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    the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

    I am currently reading the biography of Sheikh Muhammad Yusuf Al Kandahlawi (in Arabic) about his life & efforts in Dawah etc. subhanAllah, do we have such examples in the Tableeghi Jamaat today? He was such a fine example, mashaAllah, how he cared less for food and more about Dawah and how he cared more about Qur'an & Sunnat than Fazaaile' Amaal book or any other such book.......
    "Be A Lamp, A Lifeboat, A Ladder, Help Someone's Soul Heal. Walk Out Of Your House Like A Shepherd" - Rumi

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    Re: the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

    Advice to the Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh from one of the greatest Islamic scholar of the modern era.

    Shaykh al-Albaanee's advice to the Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh
    (English translation of a lecture given by the Shaykh)

    "All praise is for Allaah, and prayers and salutations upon the Prophet Muhammad (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam)"

    Question: Where do the Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh go wrong? What is the remedy for their situation?

    Response: The remedy is Knowledge, as we have always advised them. Instead of going out for this "khurooj", which has no basis in the Sunnah, whereas they make it a Sunnah to be followed. Rather they should sit in the masaajid and learn the hadeeth and fiqh and the manner of reading the Qur.aan correctly as it was sent down - [since many of them who speak, and this is a wicked practice which they have established for the people (in that) they encourage them to speak -] and then (they) are not able to correctly read the aayah, not to mention the ahaadeeth of the Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) - [since he explains the aayah in a way that causes him to fall under the saying that occurs in the knowledge of the Sciences of hadeeth ('Ilm Usoolil-hadeeth): "That the student must learn the "Arabic language so that when he reads a hadeeth he does not introduce mistakes into it, but reads it as the Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), said it"] - and if not then he falls under the saying of the Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), "He who reports me that which I did not say, then let him take his place in the Fire"

    Even when the Book is in front of him and he reads from it - [then he even cannot read it properly even though the Book is fully vowel pointed] - but even so those whom we hear in many of the masaajid cannot read the hadeeth of the Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), properly, - not to mention the being able to explain them correctly, and not to mention explaining the rulings contained therein - whilst those sitting and listening are in dire need of this fiqh taken from the Sunnah.

    Therefore the cure for those people is for them to return to the circles of knowledge in the masaajid and find a scholar who has knowledge of the different readings (Qiraa'aat), knowledge of Tajweed, knowledge of fiqh, knowledge of hadeeth and knowledge of Tafseer. - so that they can learn. Then, after that if any of them becomes able to call the people - then he has to call the people. However, they call themselves, "Jamaa'ah ad-Da'wah" and the "da'wah" is the call to Islaam, 'the group of spreading the religion', but this religion of Islaam has to be understood by the caller so that he may able to spread it correctly and properly - and if not then - ((the one who does not have something cannot give it)) and this is a well known truth.

    Therefore we advise them, since in many of them we find sincerity of purpose, and that they are active in da'wah, however, what was said of old of them was true, as follows: "Sa'd brought them in - leading them: That is not how you bring in camels, O Sa'd!)): ((That is not how you give da'wah to Islaam O Jamaa'ah)) da'wah to Islaam requires scholars who are able - especially if they go out from their lands to the lands of Kufr and misguidance, such as Europe and America - as over there problems and doubts come to them which you would not even think about in the Muslim lands - so where will they find the answer to them - he who does not have something cannot give it.

    I believe that they - Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh, if they really do wish to spread the religion of Islaam - then it is not enough that they are students, rather they must be scholars and mujtahids - taking Islaamic rulings from the Book and the Sunnah. Why? Because they go to a land where the habits, customs, usages, and problems are different to ours - so where will they get the answers from? They have no answer - rather one of them may mistakenly think that he has some knowledge - and therefore give Fatwa's - just as the Companions gave Fatwas to the injured man and killed him - they gave Fatwa without knowledge and so erred and led into error, just as the Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), said in the hadeeth recorded by al-Bukhaaree and Muslim, "verily Allaah does not take away the knowledge by removing it from the hearts of the scholars, but He takes the knowledge away by taking away the scholars - until there does not remain any scholars, so the people take ignorant ones as their leaders - and they are asked and give judgment without knowledge." This is exactly what is happening these days - that many people give fatwas without knowledge and therefore go astray and lead others astray - therefore for those who wish to give da'wah - it is not enough that they are students, rather they must be scholars - deriving rulings from the Book and Sunnah - and if not, then they are not able to convey the message of Islaam, particularly in those foreign lands.

    I end this talk with a point noted by a famous scholar of Andalus - Ibn Rushd al-Maalikee - he gave an example for the mujtahid scholar and the muqallid scholar - a very good example - saying, "The example of the mujtahid and the muqallid is the example of the person who sells leather socks and the one who makes them. So a man comes to the seller of leather socks and asks him for a particular size [and maybe he wants an unusual size, small but wide] and he doesn't find this size amongst his stock - so he has to go to the maker of the leather socks and say I want a leather sock of such and such a size - and he makes it. This is the example of the mujtahid and the other one, the muqallid (blind follower)."

    So where will they find answers required in that land? Therefore we advise them strongly - since they have sincerity and feeling for Islaam, and desire to spread it amongst the people - to seek knowledge. There is no other way than that; after that, perhaps, Allaah will grant them that knowledge and open the door of true da'wah to them, and if not, then, the one who does not possess something cannot simply give it to others.

    Our way, is that "the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam)", and this is the text agreed upon by all Jamaa'ahs amongst Muslims throughout the world. No one says, "The best of guidance is the guidance of Abu Haneefah, or Maalik, or ash-Shaafi'ee, or Ahmad", and yet, all of them hold that they are people of knowledge and excellence and that their purpose is to follow the Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), and his way.

    Hence, all Muslims, irrespective of group or sect, agree upon this basic principle that "the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam)". Despite this agreement there is still some difference with regard to how that is put into practice and in making this Prophetic truth a fact upon the face of this earth. It is here that they differ, and we have just discussed about what is knowledge, which is "what is commanded by Allaah and His Messenger (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam)". There is also no disagreement about this fact. However, in practice today you hardly ever hear a scholar answer a question by saying, "Allaah Ta'aala says…." Or "The Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) said...". Instead they say "so and so says…", and that is NOT knowledge. So what is important for the Muslims today is that they come together upon the principles - and these are agreed amongst them - and stick to them and not leave them on one side and we say, "The best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam)".

    Then we also see, after that, that one person prays in a certain manner and another in a different way and another and so on…, and likewise in wudoo., fasting, Hajj etc. etc. Why? What is the reason? The only reason is that they have NOT followed the simple basic principle of "the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam)" Why is this so? Because making this principle a reality in our religious life requires knowledge of what Allaah and His Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), says. In particular what is authentically reported from the Messenger (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) and keeping away from that which is NOT authentic from him (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) - so where is this way, its method and application today?

    Then we return to the question and say, ((All of the Jamaa'ahs amongst the Muslims say (( the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam))), but the Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh and others - we do not particularise them alone since the problem is general - has their 'aqeedah become one - and they have been in existence for many years.

    So has the 'aqeedah of its members become a single 'aqeedah? Has their 'ibaadah (worship) become one? Etc. In my opinion the answer is "NO", since you will find amongst them, the Hanafee, the Shaafi'ee, the Maalikee, and the Hanbalee, just as you would find outside the Jamaa'ah, and so on in this way there is no difference between them and the other Jamaa'ahs. Likewise within Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh you will find people who lean towards the Book and the Sunnah as we have just explained. However, you do not find amongst them scholars who guide these (people) to the Book and the Sunnah. Instead, they rely upon any scholar who will explain to them what is in the Book and the Sunnah since they believe that it is the Qur.aan and the Sunnah that are to be acted upon. As for the great majority of them, they are not like that. The reason is that not all of them have that belief which would unite them if they possessed it. Therefore, you see them do many things at variance with the Sunnah. Eg; (this thing) which they alone do and have particulate themselves with, from amongst all of the various different Jamaa'ahs.

    This is what they call "khurooj" - going out in the way of Allaah - meaning going out with the Jamaa'ah to various towns, cities, lands and even non-Muslim countries. So we always remind them that going out in the way of Allaah is a good thing since the Messenger (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) said "He who takes a path seeking knowledge. Allaah makes it easy for him a path to Paradise". However, if they believe, along with us, that the best guidance is the guidance of Muhammad (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), then (we ask), "had he (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) and his noble companions used to go out in tens in that way to give da'wah of Islaam?" ((INTERRUPTION)) And the people in the time of the Messenger (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) were in greater need of knowledge since they were surrounded by the unbelievers. So he, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), would send a knowledgeable one and not send ten or twenty along with him who did not know anything. Rather they would learn from the people of knowledge in their own lands.

    So I am sure you all know that he, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), sent Mu'aadh Ibn Jabal (radhi-yallaahu 'anhu), alone, Abu Mousa (radhi-yallaahu 'anhu) alone, and likewise 'Alee (radhi-yallaahu 'anhu), Abu 'Ubaydah (radhi-yallaahu 'anhu) and Dihyah (radhi-yallaahu 'anhu) etc. etc. all singly. We do not find at any time in his blessed life that he, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), sent along with a scholar, people who were not scholars - to Yemen. What was in Yemen but Shirk and Kufr, and consider, there was need in the time of the Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam).

    Therefore we say that the foundation of da'wah is Knowledge - Knowledge of the Book and the Sunnah - and I would draw your attention to the fact that despite being around many years they still do not have a single unifying 'aqeedah nor a single unifying worship, nor commonality in their prayers. So what is it you will convey to the people while you have not yet conveyed it to your ownselves? Begin with your ownselves first, then those around you. What will the Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh convey if they themselves have not still agreed in 'aqeedah? As far as I know, Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh does not give any importance to the affairs of 'aqeedah. Indeed, many of them state openly that, "we do not go into the affairs of 'aqeedah since they cause differences amongst the Muslims", nor do they take care to correct their worship and Prayers and make that in accordance with the Sunnah. So he who does not possess something cannot give it to another.

    They call to Islaam. What is Islaam? Prayer!, Fasting!, Zakaah! Etc. If a questioner comes and asks, "How did the Messenger of Allaah, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), perform Salaah?" to one of their callers (Da'ee), not just one of their common followers, then he cannot answer. Why? Because from the beginning, from their first principles, they are NOT taught to, first of all, make sure that they are upon following the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), of Allaah. Either he will be restricted to a particular madhhab or following a particular Soofee order - about which some Soofee's speak openly and say, "The number of ways to Allaah are like the number of created beings". So, perhaps, this Shaykh belongs to one of those Soofee orders about which the scholars are agreed that nothing of them ever existed in the first three generations after the Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), whose excellence was testified to and Allaah Himself says:

    {Verily, this is My Way, leading Straight: follow it: follow not (other) paths: they will scatter you about from His (great) Path}, [Soorah al-An'aam, Aayah 153].

    And so if the head of the callers who established the Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh; he himself follows a particular madhhab, blindly - Hanafee or Shafi'ee or any other; And he himself follows one of these Soofee orders - then what is this Islaam that they call to? Prayer only? We often hear and know that many people who had not used to pray have started to pray - we do not deny that. We know many extreme Soofee's in all the lands of Islaam, and particularly Syria, where they have lived for many years - Shaykhs of the Soofee's who devour the people's wealth and live upon the hunger of their followers - and yet people who were formerly drunkards become their followers and begin to pray. But is that what is wanted? That a person becomes like the example mentioned by the Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), "The example of the scholar who does NOT act on his Knowledge is that of a lamp which gives light to the people and burns itself away." That is not what is wanted. What is wanted is that the Muslim gives da'wah having a certain Knowledge of his religion - and where does he get that knowledge from? As we have said: Either he himself becomes a scholar by studying the Book and the Sunnah or he takes the Book and the Sunnah from one who is a scholar of that. We do not find that amongst the followers of Jamaa'at - Ut-Tableegh - and for all these years - and likewise for the Ikhwanul Muslimeen - and they have not come together in their thinking - so within the Ikhwan you find those who adhere to the way of the Pious Predecessors, the Soofee, the follower of a madhhab, and in some lands even the Shee'ah - we know that from their long history - what Islaam is it that they call to?

    And know after mentioning their shortcomings - I advise them - that instead of going out for this "Khurooj" which was, firstly, not found in the time of the Prophet, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), and secondly, that it is organized in a way that has no basis in Islaam - three days, four days etc. - Instead of that "Khurooj", which did not exist in the first and best period of Islaam, sit in the masaajid and study the Book of Allaah, either by yourselves if you are from the former group and if not, then, by asking the people of Knowledge if you do not know.

    And we often hear them begin their lesson with the saying: "Our success lies in following the Sunnah". Fine, but if you ask, "What is the Sunnah in the Prayer that you have just performed?". He doesn't know. The Imaam sits after the prayer, opens "Riyaadh as-Saaliheen" - and what a good book it is - he reads two or three ahaadeeth and does not explain them or make their meaning clear - reading only the text. Then the people go away not knowing anything. Why? Because the Shaykh didn't explain. Why? Because he doesn't have something, hence he cannot give it.

    So, instead of wasting time reading ahaadeeth which they do not understand - let one or two of them out of the thousands seek knowledge - tafseer, hadeeth, language etc. Then, let them call the people to Islaam upon clear guidance. The Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh in this form, what do they call to? To Islaam, fine. Then what is the 'aqeedah that a Muslim has to have? Is it the Ash'aree 'aqeedah, the Maatureedee 'aqeedah or the 'aqeedah of Ahlul hadeeth? Each is upon that which he found his father, mother, grandfather - or from al-Azhar or the latest Islaamic University etc. Otherwise his mind is completely empty, neither having this nor that - what is the reason?

    Firstly, it is not part of their system that they teach their Jamaa'ah the 'aqeedah.

    Secondly, it is not part of their program to teach the people what is Sunnah and what is Bid'ah - and the Arab Muslim poet of old said: "I learnt what was bad not for its own sake but to avoid it: and he who does not know bad from good falls into it." And this poetic wisdom is taken from the hadeeth of Hudhayfah Ibn al-Yamaanee (radhi-yallaahu 'anhu) who said about himself: "The people used to ask Allaah's Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), about the good. And I used to ask about the bad fearing it would come to me…"

    And as the poet said: "Sa'd brought in [the camels], leading them: O Sa'd - that is not how you bring camels in."

    If you call to Islaam - you have to know what it is, beginning with Eemaan and perhaps the brothers will recall the hadeeth: "That a man came to the Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) with very white clothes and black hair... [the hadeeth of Jibreel concerning Islaam, Eemaan and Ihsaan…]…"

    Eemaan in Allaah - I have never heard any of our brothers explain the word "Eemaan in Allaah" - of which it is possible to write volumes about, and it is sufficient for us that Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah wrote a whole book called "Kitaabul-Eemaan" - and the muhaddithoon (scholars of hadeeth) of old wrote such books such as Ibn Abee Shaybah and Abu 'Ubayd al-Qaasim as-Sallaam - all of them writing books on Eemaan.

    What is "Eemaan in Allaah? The Muslims believe in Allaah, the Christians believe in Allaah, the Jews believe in Allaah, everyone but the atheists believe in Allaah. But each one's belief in Allaah is different from the other. So what is that Eemaan (in Allaah) which is the first condition of Eemaan? This topic is never studied. This Eemaan contains the belief in the Oneness of Allaah's self; it contains the Oneness of Allaah's worship - that He alone is worshipped; it contains Allaah's Uniqueness in his Attributes.

    Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh do not speak about these at all - so then, what O Brother is this Islaam that you call people to? And where are you with regard to his (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) sayings:

    ((Pray as you see me praying)) and ((Take your rites of Hajj from me for I do not know - perhaps I will not meet you after this year)).

    Then, our advice is that some - not all thousands or millions of them - but tens or thousands of them should obtain knowledge of the religion who then can guide them to the following of Allaah's Book and the ahaadeeth of Allaah's messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam).

    As for the going out - then no one should go out except for the scholar - as shown in the guidance of Allaah's Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam). As for spreading the religion - then each person passes on what he knows - but that is not to be in ordered form that people from Amman leave their families and children and go to Europe and America. Let them remain at home and learn Allaah's religion as did the Companions of the Prophet, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam). We again repeat, :The best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam)."

    Where are those who best understand this rule? Without a doubt they were the Companions of the Prophet, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), then those who came after them, then those who came even after them. Fourteen centuries have passed and whatever we might say about changing times or methods etc. - we are now in the 1400's and never in these 1400 years did a group of scholars go out in hundreds in this way, travelling through the lands to give da'wah. Why did they not do that? Therefore the scholars say, "And every good is in the following of those who came before, and every evil lies in the innovations of the latter people."

    No one will argue about giving da'wah since Allaah Ta'aala says:

    {Let there arise out of you a group of people…}, [Soorah Aal-'Imraan, Aayah 104], but the problem lies in the method of da'wah and the way it is given, and what is introduced into that which had not been used to be in the time of the Prophet, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), and that one having knowledge goes out - why does he go out? To learn! Brother, stay in your homes, the masjid is next door, sit there and learn from the scholars.

    <INTERRUPTION> from someone in the audience asking what is wrong with going out to the masaajid.

    O beloved Brother, may Allaah be Pleased with you - this is NOT the point of discussion - do not enter us into issues which are not related to where the problem lies…, I say there is no problem - but the ones nearer to you have more right, your family, your neighbors etc. then to whom will you call? Have you taught your family the correct 'aqeedah? And taught them how the Prophet, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), used to pray? Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh do NOT learn or teach how the Prophet, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), used to pray and make Hajj etc. So as a member of Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh have you taught that which is obligatory to your family whom you live with? They are the closest of people to you. So you leave them alone and go to another town and say to me "what is wrong?" - I say there is nothing wrong, but start with yourselves, then those closest to you. Do not leave your land - going here and there - he who does not have something cannot give it.

    We in ash-Shaam (Syria), have an example which they mention - they say: "That there was a Kurdish man, zealous for Islaam, but knowing very little about it - he met a Jew on the road one day and said to him ((become a Muslim or I will kill you)), so he replied; ((I will become a Muslim - what do I say?)) He said: ((By Allaah, I don't know!))"

    What benefit is this type of enthusiasm - he doesn't even know what to say to the Jew about Islaam. So we say, - that before this enthusiasm - sit and learn what Islaam is - then spread it amongst the people in the best way. And this is enough of a mention of the short-comings of Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh. And we do not wish to go further into the details since that requires research of their history - and what is correct and what is not - but that which is very clear. Is that this "Khurooj" in groups who hardly know anything about Islaam?

    <INTERRUPTION: This accusation you make..., that you say that they don't pray in the way the Prophet, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam)>

    Brother, it is not an accusation - It is something we see. <Continuation of INTERRUPTION>

    Then as I have said to you - if we do find someone amongst Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh praying according to the Sunnah, then this Sunnah has not come from them but from outside. So, in this case you are like the person mentioned in the Quran:

    {And one of her household saw (this) and bore witness, (thus)…}, [Soorah Yoosuf, Aayah 26].

    Al-Hamdu-Lillaah, and you pray according to the book, Sifatus-Salaatin-Nabee (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), - why don't you pray according to a book produced by Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh? Because they haven't produced any such book. Then - we return to what is most important - to 'aqeedah - so do you say that we accuse them of not giving importance to 'aqeedah? Well, they themselves clearly state that - they do not call to 'aqeedah, nor to the Book and the Sunnah - everyone remains upon his madhhab…

    I say, as long as the Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh want to spread Islaam and have this enthusiasm - then the Sunnah must come from them - not have to be taken from other Jamaa'aha. I know them from Syria and from sitting with them, and I know them here….. so I am not ignorant of them, so that you say that I accuse them. Rather you accuse us of accusing them - but I speak based on knowledge…

    So, in brief, with regard to the Jamaa'ah at-Tableegh - we are thankful for their enthusiasm but not for the way in which they show it. This enthusiasm has to have knowledge attached to it - and knowledge as has preceded is "what Allaah and His Messenger, (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam), say". This hadeeth is authentic. Is there any scholar amongst them who is able to say that this hadeeth is weak so that he can be upon clear guidance in his religion? They do not have such a one to this day. Why? Because their way is at variance with the correct way:

    {Verily, this is My Way, leading Straight: follow it: follow not (other) paths}, [Soorah al-An'aam, Aayah 153].

    ..........
    Translated by: Maaz Qureshi

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      #3
      Re: the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

      ^^^^

      yes the founders of the Tableeghi Jamaat had good knowledge of Qur'an & Sunnah.......i think they were even scholars......

      unfortunately i dont think it is the case today........
      "Be A Lamp, A Lifeboat, A Ladder, Help Someone's Soul Heal. Walk Out Of Your House Like A Shepherd" - Rumi

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        #4
        Re: the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

        Today, you have the likes of Maulana Saad Khandalwi in India and Haji Abdul Wahhab Saheb in Pakistan. Very erudite men. At the same time, extremely simple people.

        It's amazing how a person as simple as Maulana Saad is basically overseeing and advising Dawah efforts in over 150+ countries, subhanAllah. Not with social networking sites, fancy flashcards, glitzy websites, expensive double weekend seminars...but a successful effort that is in nearly every country of the world consisting of everyone from the poor village farmer in central Africa to the corporate CEO residing in Silicon Valley.

        Does a person like Maulana Saad who can be considered an elder of this effort, have body guards, a big mansion, nice car....no. From what I've heard, the door to his house is in the form of a simple curtain. And this is a man living in the world today.
        The Sahaba (radiAllahu anhum) used to cling to the Sunnah just because it was Sunnah
        Today we abandon the Sunnah, just because it's Sunnah.

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          #5
          Re: the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

          Originally posted by ImaanSeeker View Post
          Today, you have the likes of Maulana Saad Khandalwi in India and Haji Abdul Wahhab Saheb in Pakistan. Very erudite men. At the same time, extremely simple people.

          It's amazing how a person as simple as Maulana Saad is basically overseeing and advising Dawah efforts in over 150+ countries, subhanAllah. Not with social networking sites, fancy flashcards, glitzy websites, expensive double weekend seminars...but a successful effort that is in nearly every country of the world consisting of everyone from the poor village farmer in central Africa to the corporate CEO residing in Silicon Valley.

          Does a person like Maulana Saad who can be considered an elder of this effort, have body guards, a big mansion, nice car....no. From what I've heard, the door to his house is in the form of a simple curtain. And this is a man living in the world today.
          is Maulana Saad Kandahlawi related to Sheikh Muhammad Yusuf?
          "Be A Lamp, A Lifeboat, A Ladder, Help Someone's Soul Heal. Walk Out Of Your House Like A Shepherd" - Rumi

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            #6
            Re: the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

            Originally posted by tayyiboon View Post
            is Maulana Saad Kandahlawi related to Sheikh Muhammad Yusuf?
            Maulana Saad is the grandson of Shaykh Yusuf, if I'm not mistaken.
            The Sahaba (radiAllahu anhum) used to cling to the Sunnah just because it was Sunnah
            Today we abandon the Sunnah, just because it's Sunnah.

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              #7
              Re: the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

              Originally posted by ImaanSeeker View Post
              Maulana Saad is the grandson of Shaykh Yusuf, if I'm not mistaken.
              yes he is. and shaykh zubair is son of Maulana Inam ul hasan, who was cousin of shaykh Yusuf (RA)
              لا أريد مِنْكُمْ جَزَاء وَلا شُكُورًا

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                #8
                Re: the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

                Maulana Saad is from the same family. His father I believe was the brother of Maulana Yusuf Khandalwi. The guy is a dark horse mashaAllah. He regularly goes through Hayatus Sahabah in Nizamudeen Markaz which is one of the greatest works of Maulana Yusuf RA.

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                  #9
                  Re: the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

                  subhanAllah.

                  at OP; there are actually so many ulema worth the name involved in the effort...in india, pakistan, england etc... no doubt the effort is not what it was before but mashaAllah its efforts are still bringing so many back to the deen...
                  Maulana Saad
                  Maulana Zubair
                  Maulana Ahmed laad
                  Maulana Ibrahim Dewla
                  Maulana Tariq Jameel,
                  and so many more. Unfortunately you will never get an entire group of Muslims worth the name who sacrifice so much for the deen yet we still have those people amongst us....
                  as for fadhail amaal, i think people who misunderstand the effort create this hype about it how it is over revered and such, those who know of the effort truly do not act so.

                  i have read the biography and subhanAllah it is amazing.

                  Originally posted by ImaanSeeker View Post
                  Today, you have the likes of Maulana Saad Khandalwi in India and Haji Abdul Wahhab Saheb in Pakistan. Very erudite men. At the same time, extremely simple people.

                  It's amazing how a person as simple as Maulana Saad is basically overseeing and advising Dawah efforts in over 150+ countries, subhanAllah. Not with social networking sites, fancy flashcards, glitzy websites, expensive double weekend seminars...but a successful effort that is in nearly every country of the world consisting of everyone from the poor village farmer in central Africa to the corporate CEO residing in Silicon Valley.

                  Does a person like Maulana Saad who can be considered an elder of this effort, have body guards, a big mansion, nice car....no. From what I've heard, the door to his house is in the form of a simple curtain. And this is a man living in the world today.
                  The enforcement of Muslim Brotherhood is the greatest social ideal of Islam. On it was based the Prophet's (SAW) sermon on his last pilgrimage, and Islam cannot be completely realized until this ideal is achieved. '
                  (Shaikh Maulana Muhammad Yusuf)
                  In Lam Takun Ghaadiban Annee Falaa Ubaalee...

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                    #10
                    Re: the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

                    Originally posted by Emelianenko View Post
                    Maulana Saad is from the same family. His father I believe was the brother of Maulana Yusuf Khandalwi. The guy is a dark horse mashaAllah. He regularly goes through Hayatus Sahabah in Nizamudeen Markaz which is one of the greatest works of Maulana Yusuf RA.
                    If I'm not mistaken, Maulana Saad's father was Maulana Harun (rahimullah) and Maulana Harun's father was Maulana Yusuf (rahimullah). And Maulana Yusuf's father was the esteemed Maulana Ilyas (rahimullah).
                    The Sahaba (radiAllahu anhum) used to cling to the Sunnah just because it was Sunnah
                    Today we abandon the Sunnah, just because it's Sunnah.

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                      #11
                      Re: the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

                      Originally posted by ImaanSeeker View Post
                      If I'm not mistaken, Maulana Saad's father was Maulana Harun (rahimullah) and Maulana Harun's father was Maulana Yusuf (rahimullah). And Maulana Yusuf's father was the esteemed Maulana Ilyas (rahimullah).
                      lol it goes something like that. Irrespective, they all from the Kandhelwi family and MashaAllah, Allah swt has took a lot of work from them.

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                        #12
                        Re: the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

                        I used to sit in the gathering when arabs come to meet sh.saad, they are just crazy about sh.Saad, mashaAllah.
                        Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) is also reported to have said: “He who is very hasty and so bold as to pass verdicts is also bold in taking the path towards hell

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                          #13
                          Re: the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

                          Originally posted by ImaanSeeker View Post
                          Today, you have the likes of Maulana Saad Khandalwi in India and Haji Abdul Wahhab Saheb in Pakistan. Very erudite men. At the same time, extremely simple people.

                          It's amazing how a person as simple as Maulana Saad is basically overseeing and advising Dawah efforts in over 150+ countries, subhanAllah. Not with social networking sites, fancy flashcards, glitzy websites, expensive double weekend seminars...but a successful effort that is in nearly every country of the world consisting of everyone from the poor village farmer in central Africa to the corporate CEO residing in Silicon Valley.

                          Does a person like Maulana Saad who can be considered an elder of this effort, have body guards, a big mansion, nice car....no. From what I've heard, the door to his house is in the form of a simple curtain. And this is a man living in the world today.
                          :up:
                          Mashallah. Like an example of the Salaf al Saaliheen. However much the mumblers may mumble, Tabligh will always remain no 1.
                          http://drabutamim.blogspot.com/2011/06/tabligh-is-no1.html
                          www.drabutamim.blogspot.com
                          www.shiningblades.blogspot.com

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                            #14
                            Re: the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

                            Originally posted by KeeKee View Post
                            as for fadhail amaal, i think people who misunderstand the effort create this hype about it how it is over revered and such, those who know of the effort truly do not act so.
                            sorry but fadhail amaal does have some extremely dubious beliefs.......who was it's author? ashraf ali thanvi?
                            "Be A Lamp, A Lifeboat, A Ladder, Help Someone's Soul Heal. Walk Out Of Your House Like A Shepherd" - Rumi

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                              #15
                              Re: the Tablighi Jamaat of the old.....

                              Originally posted by abu_tamim View Post
                              :up:
                              Mashallah. Like an example of the Salaf al Saaliheen. However much the mumblers may mumble, Tabligh will always remain no 1.
                              http://drabutamim.blogspot.com/2011/...gh-is-no1.html
                              very weak writing IMO.......

                              the person is openly admitting that tabligh does not offer the proper knowledge, just the desire!!! how can someone call others to Islam just with desire????
                              "Be A Lamp, A Lifeboat, A Ladder, Help Someone's Soul Heal. Walk Out Of Your House Like A Shepherd" - Rumi

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